supremebve Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eoae said: A lot of people say that. Then they sign on the dotted line when the other party meets their price. Punk seems like he might be a true believer, so to speak, but I'm cynical enough to think he could have reached a deal if Vince had made the right offer. A lot of people say a lot of things, but I think the thing that runs people the wrong way about Punk is that he actually means the things he says. One of the things that will lose you friends and alienate people is not to not have any use for bullshit. There is a base level of bullshit we all kind of just accept. If you don't it will kind of fuck you over socially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Eoae said: I partly agree, but, even if it is "entitled" bullshit, it worked. Fox squawked and Vince jumped and produced Brock. Why shouldn't the network demand more and bigger stars from Vince if they think it will work. As much as people blame Vince for every little decision, Vince is way to indebted to the tv networks. When push comes to shove, the networks have been able to call their shots for awhile now. Besides, Dave Meltzer has been saying for awhile now that the long-term plan for Brock was Roman at WrestleMania 2023. As bad as this company is at long-term planning, there was probably no realistic chance they'd be able to hold off for a year and a half for that match. Hey, good for Fox if they can get it, but now the people who still watch WWE (PPV's at least) have to suffer through Brock again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Brock has 8 matches on his new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Yeah, I have little interest in Brock unless he's here to put Roman over strong and vary up the Suplex City formula. If the plan is to have Brock throw Roman around like a rag doll then suplex him 15 times, only to have Roman retain the title when Brock slips on a banana peel, I'll pass. Edited August 27, 2021 by Eoae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, supremebve said: Being mad at WWE for not signing CM Punk is like my mom being mad at Rihanna for not dating me. Why the hell would anyone in their right mind expect that to happen? Fox managed to sign CM Punk, to do WWE Backstage. They found it quite easy, as I understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Eoae said: A lot of people say that. Then they sign on the dotted line when the other party meets their price. Punk seems like he might be a true believer, so to speak, but I'm cynical enough to think he could have reached a deal if Vince had made the right offer. Didn't he more or less admit being willing to return to WWE just a couple of years ago? I imagine Fox bringing him into that WWE talk show was probably in some hope that he would. I suspect the interest just wasn't that high for Punk or WWE. 6 minutes ago, Eoae said: I partly agree, but, even if it is "entitled" bullshit, it worked. Fox squawked and Vince jumped and produced Brock. Why shouldn't the network demand more and bigger stars from Vince if they think it will work. As much as people blame Vince for every little decision, Vince is way to indebted to the tv networks. When push comes to shove, the networks have been able to call their shots for awhile now. 3 hour Raws and many of the themed shows we have seen are directly because of USA. The problem is there is no real reason for them to think random big stars will work. Pretty sure Brock hasn't been a big ratings bumper for a while. Did Cena deliver a big bump to Smackdown's ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Eivion said: 3 hour Raws and many of the themed shows we have seen are directly because of USA. The problem is there is no real reason for them to think random big stars will work. Pretty sure Brock hasn't been a big ratings bumper for a while. Did Cena deliver a big bump to Smackdown's ratings? If I'm not mistaken, the 24/7 title was also a USA request. Was it the Instagram post of Lesnar that was viewed 4 million times? Plus the boosted ticket sales recently when Cena was announced for shows. Good or bad, right or wrong, there are concrete reasons for them to think random big stars work, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Adam Scherr formerly Braun Strowman seems Impact bound. Edited August 27, 2021 by D.Z 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dog said: Was it the Instagram post of Lesnar that was viewed 4 million times? Plus the boosted ticket sales recently when Cena was announced for shows. Good or bad, right or wrong, there are concrete reasons for them to think random big stars work, now. For WWE its a boost on social media and maybe sales. Whether or not its enough of one to justify the money to bring them in I'm not sure. I'm talking about the networks. For them I'm not sure how much they really get out of this ratings wise which is what I assume they are after. Edited August 27, 2021 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, D.Z said: Adam Scherr formerly Braun Strowman seems Impact bound. Quick! Someone send Scott D’Amore the definitive DVDVR list of Brawn Strowman alternate names. ”we know who that is….. it’s Prawn Snowman” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I never thought I'd be happy about Impact losing their UK TV deal, but if they suddenly started featuring Porn Strokeman, I'd probably stop watching anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ultimo Necro said: Quick! Someone send Scott D’Amore the definitive DVDVR list of Brawn Strowman alternate names. ”we know who that is….. it’s Prawn Snowman” At very least he needs to be known as Adam Scherrmann! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ultimo Necro said: Quick! Someone send Scott D’Amore the definitive DVDVR list of Brawn Strowman alternate names. ”we know who that is….. it’s Prawn Snowman” The initials need to be B & S, pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Infinit said: The initials need to be B & S, pal Badam Scherrmann? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Some people think Adams new name might be Titan. In other impact news....Buddy, Windham (Bray) could be both Impact bound. Not sure where the former IIconics will end up, but for now seems they will work the indys. Edited August 27, 2021 by D.Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shartnado said: Badam Scherrmann? Maybe he can do a character where he plays a mean pastor and be called, Bad Sermon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, D.Z said: Some people think Adams new name might be Titan. In other impact "news"..Buddy, Windham (Bray) could be both Impact bound. Not sure where the former IIconics will end up, but for now seems they will work the indys. That's quite the addition to Impact's roster, if that ends up being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Based on their track record, I could see Impact letting Bray run wild with anything that pops into his head. I'd be somewhat interested in him going there and taking the place over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, supremebve said: Maybe he can do a character where he plays a mean pastor and be called, Bad Sermon. Bills himself as the half cousin of Erick Sermon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On his first appearance, on Rampage a week ago, SM Punk had AC written on his shoes. On his second, on Dynamite 2 days ago, he had BW. So clearly he thinks Ashely Cole should come out of retirement, and sign for Bolton Wanderers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) I haven't read or found anything concrete yet for a new gimmicks mandate for the Superstars in WWE, but it does seem to be switching to must have something to stand out. Some of the gimmick changes shown on tv recently and the last year have been suggestions or ideas from the Superstars themselves and not creative. WWE wants more money from merch which has very much increased these past months. The gimmicks help with that. Edited August 27, 2021 by D.Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, AxB said: On his first appearance, on Rampage a week ago, SM Punk had AC written on his shoes. On his second, on Dynamite 2 days ago, he had BW. So clearly he thinks Ashely Cole should come out of retirement, and sign for Bolton Wanderers. There is NO other logical explanation. That must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Back to the new WWE hiring recruitment process, keep in mind they mean not hiring from American indys, so outside of America it's unknown if hiring from other countries indys is ok. WWE is still interested in signing non indy talent from other countries promotions like Japan and Mexico and etc. Edited August 27, 2021 by D.Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, D.Z said: Back to the new WWE hiring recruitment process, keep in mind they mean not hiring from American indys, so outside of America it's unknown if hiring from other countries indys is ok. WWE is still interested in signing non indy talent from other countries promotions like Japan and Mexico and etc. If they don't want American workers who haven't been born and bred in their system, why would they want foreign workers who would theoretically have more habits they need to break? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 So they can pretend to have diversity for a few years in some press releases before firing them? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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