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There’s been lots of talk about ship-jumping needle-movers on the men’s side. What about the women’s?

Would they all be reluctant (even if they could contract-wise) with Becky’s return about to ‘lift all ships’ (to keep the naval metaphors going) for the women across the company? Does Bayley pull a fast one and have a return match from her injury in another promotion?

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Hangman beating Kenny at All Out has been booked in stone for over a year now (probably since the inception of the company) and is definitely the right move... But I really want to see Bryan vs. Omega for the title. 👀 They absolutely, 100% don't need it but if you're going to put on the biggest match the company could book for the foreseeable future, it should probably be, and I quote Mark Jackson, "for all the marbles, with all due respect."

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9 hours ago, Ryan Faulconer said:

IT CAN BE TWO THINGS!


 

I’m sorry for the outburst.  

NO!!! It’s called GRAND SLAM! It’s got a tennis theme, and the guest of honor is Andre Agassi!

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2 hours ago, Jiji said:

Hangman beating Kenny at All Out has been booked in stone for over a year now (probably since the inception of the company) and is definitely the right move... But I really want to see Bryan vs. Omega for the title. 👀 They absolutely, 100% don't need it but if you're going to put on the biggest match the company could book for the foreseeable future, it should probably be, and I quote Mark Jackson, "for all the marbles, with all due respect."

That came up in the Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Appreciation thread yesterday. I said: 

Omega vs. Danielson doesn't need the AEW Championship. Stick to the booking, Adam Hangman Page becomes the new AEW World Champion. This is coming from the biggest Bryan Danielson fanboy going.

As I and you note, Omega vs. Danielson doesn't need the AEW World Championship as it's the biggest match there is...but even more if the top prize is on the line. Again I'd stick with the Page plan and I think that's what they'll do.

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15 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said:

I love that we're nearly two years deep with this company and still no General Manager/Commissioner/etc.  Thank You AEW!  

Why would you really need one if you already have wrestling heels. 

It’s not bad to have an onscreen guy making matches every once in awhile, but all you really need is the commentary mentioning the “Match Makers”, and that’s it. The authority figure turned heel stuff went on way too long past it’s expiration date. Some good stuff here, and there, but ultimately added nothing to certain acts. It worked with Daniel Bryan at least, but it made no sense when it was John Cena, or Roman.

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That, and announcing matches prior to the show, instead of doing 20 minute talking segments at the top of the episode to kill time setting up a main event for a crowd pop. Even though by 2005 fans stopped popping for that fucking spot.

Like why would you continue doing that for tepid reactions?

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I don’t think AEW has booked a single match during the same show in their entire existence which is surprising. I keep waiting for it to happen but they are really committed to their pre announced cards.

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for people that complain that AEW fans are criticized too much for being wrestling snobs, read social medial reaction to even the idea of Nick Gage even appearing in AEW much less wrestling Chris Jericho.  So many robbing banks references.   Did the Cornette cult infiltrate the AEW fanbase

Fuck them.   AEW just posted their version of the Nick Gage's entrance theme.  given the violence I will just spoiler it for NSFW

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3 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

NO!!! It’s called GRAND SLAM! It’s got a tennis theme, and the get of honor is Andre Agassi!

Andre Agassi?! He's not even the best tennis player in his own household! Rename the event Golden Slam and get Steffi Graf to show up.

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My half baked fantasy booked suggestion for selling out a stadium in the Nov/Dec timeframe:

Baker/Rosa II

Miro / Jingle Boy TNT Title

Danielson/Omega

Wight / Shaq (the let me up match between the dream match and main event and your mainstream pub deal, with heavy promo time on NBA on TNT during the heart of the NBA season)

Hangman / Allin world title (your two biggest home grown stars headline. Babyface vs babyface but who cares)

Whatever else with the Elite, Pinnacle, Cody is gravy. 

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39 minutes ago, hammerva said:

for people that complain that AEW fans are criticized too much for being wrestling snobs, read social medial reaction to even the idea of Nick Gage even appearing in AEW much less wrestling Chris Jericho.  So many robbing banks references.   Did the Cornette cult infiltrate the AEW fanbase

 

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"Old school fans" calling out Gage for a bank robbery is the most hypocritical shit.  These dudes harken back to a time when the locker room was filled with actual murderers, child predators, rapists, domestic batterers, straight-up klansmen, and all manner of carny-ass criminals, and they're going to shit on a guy for falling into addiction and making a really bad decision one time?  A guy who, by all accounts, has straightened his shit out to the best of his abilities?  Yeah, I got no time for these people.

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1 hour ago, hammerva said:

for people that complain that AEW fans are criticized too much for being wrestling snobs, read social medial reaction to even the idea of Nick Gage even appearing in AEW much less wrestling Chris Jericho.  So many robbing banks references.   Did the Cornette cult infiltrate the AEW fanbase

Fuck them.   AEW just posted their version of the Nick Gage's entrance theme.  given the violence I will just spoiler it for NSFW

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This is an example of a pro wrestling company that I love leaning all the way into something I genuinely dislike...

...and, I kind of love it. 

If I owned and operated AEW, I don't think that I would bring in Nick Gage. I don't have any desire to see light tubes used in an AEW ring. In fact, I desire not to see anyone in AEW take a light tube shot, ever.

BUT

Obviously, I do not own and operate AEW. I'm just an internet nerd who likes their TV and web shows, one of literally thousands. 

But (and I hope this makes sense) If I were in Tony Khan's shoes, I'd like to think that I'd run the promotion exactly how I'd want to run it. I mean, I hope I'd actually bring in all my friends who used to work at Osaka Pro, run lots of comedy matches, strap a rocket to JD Drake, set up Tucky and Bear Country to dominate the extremely active six-man-tag division, book Daniel Makabe in regular 20-minute matches, be deep in negations with Jaguar Yokota and Takumi Iroha, and have Calvin Tankman teaming with Powerhouse Will Hobbs and Orange Cassidy teaming with Juice Robinson but call their teams "Tankhouse" and "Cassidy and Robinson" and so on...

So (this is making sense so far, right?) I can find delight in Tony Khan booking AEW the way he wants to book it, even if that isn't necessarily what I most want to see. We all (here at the Death Valley Driver boards) know that he's a death match guy. So, let him book death matches!

There's enough stuff I like at the buffet table. If I personally don't want the light tubes, dudes falling from unnecessarily high places, and callbacks to Attitude Era comedy... well, I can still (thoroughly) enjoy Sting messing around with Orange Cassidy, Kenny and the Bucks rocking ridiculous clothes and facial hair, Taz and The Big Paul cracking each other up, Luther throwing Serpentico at people, Miro's new character, the rise of Darby, Jungle Boy, Tay Conti, Hangman Page, John Silver, Abadon, Hobbs, Ricky Starks... 

And if you don't enjoy some of the things that I get a kick out of, which is fair enough, there's probably something you can get into. Maybe you very much prefer light tubes to goofy porn staches. Cool. Let's both enjoy the buffet.

You know what I mean? 

Anyway, I'm not about to make up my mind about Nick Gage before I've seen how AEW is gonna use him. I have been positively surprised often enough that I'm not finding it hard to keep an open mind. 

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31 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said:
4 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

 

Andre Agassi?! He's not even the best tennis player in his own household! Rename the event Golden Slam and get Steffi Graf to show up.

You wouldn’t say that if the stress from living with Brooke Shields didn’t cause him to go bald, and lose that beautiful head of hair!

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2 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

You wouldn’t say that if the stress from living with Brooke Shields didn’t cause him to go bald, and lose that beautiful head of hair!

Sure I would! Look at my name! Do you think I chose that by a coincidence?!

... okay Andre Agassi did have a lush head of hair. I'll give you that.

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2 hours ago, Jiji said:

 

Capital-C carny. Love it.

The wrestling intelligentsia snobs are really out in force. Gage isn't going to move ratings, he's just a side-show act, he's one and done. The best is some goof questioning what kind of national TV draw he is... something you could say about literally every HOF wrestler before they, you know, debuted on national TV.

I can't say I'm a fan, but I would love to see him pop a rating just out of the curiosity factor. 

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If he has a really great performance I would give him a contract.

Old school fans getting pissed off about him just shows how much the reactions are phony from people like Cornette. Like why would you hate the idea of booking this kind of dangerous white trash menace character, when that’s the kind of heel you’d book in the territory back in the day?

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There is no point in wasting energy trying to figure out where the trolls are coming from, they troll to troll and nothing more. If I'm going to walk around eating a chocolate ice cream cone and a couple motherfuckers walk past talking about how much they think chocolate ain't shit, I'm not even going to wonder why they would have that point of view, I'm just going to enjoy my ice cream. 

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