odessasteps Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Beltran to the Yankees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 3/45. The Yankees now have six outfielders under contract - guessing they eat Wells' contract and try to trade Gardner for pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ooof - this move I dont like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 In: Beltran Jacoby McCann Johnson Out: Grandy Cano A-Rod Gardner? What's going on with Ichiro? Just going to sit on the bench? The DH you would assume is going to be a rotation of Jeter/Tex/McCann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Still, I think when you look at this, you can see a path for the Cano deal will make a lot of sense. All he needs is to have two of the greatest seasons ever, two or three renaissances and a way to provide value when he’s no contributing in other ways. All he needs is the second half of Joe Morgan’s career. - Pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I love it. The more players that get signed by other teams, the more pissed off the social media Cubs fanbase gets. It's like they've completely ignored the fact that Choo, Tanaka, and Price are the real targets the Cubs are looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Edward Mujica to the Red Sox. 2 years 9.5 million. Boston's 40 man is now full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 3 years is a bit much for Beltran, but he was being offered that by other teams as well. The Yankees have made some good additions so far. Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran should easily offset (if not eclipse) what they would have gotten from Cano had he stuck around. Are they just gonna roll with Kelly Johnson at 2B or is there somebody else on the team I am forgetting about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 3/45. The Yankees now have six outfielders under contract - guessing they eat Wells' contract and try to trade Gardner for pitching. The Yankees don't have to eat any of Vernon Wells contract b/c the Angels are still paying him. They were just so desparate to dump him last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 3 years is a bit much for Beltran, but he was being offered that by other teams as well. The Yankees have made some good additions so far. Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran should easily offset (if not eclipse) what they would have gotten from Cano had he stuck around. Are they just gonna roll with Kelly Johnson at 2B or is there somebody else on the team I am forgetting about? According to MLB Network and WFAN, the Yankees are looking into Omar Infante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I don't think you guys realize how desperate the Mariners are. Attendance is plummeting year after year after year and this city is starting to care less and less. I honestly think if you surveyed people up here right now, over 70% would not give a shit if the franchise were to move. The soccer team up here is more popular than the Mariners are. That bad? I left Seattle in 2007 and they were still doing the laughable promotion of a losing team with "You gotta love these guys!", No, no I don't. I like to see competitive teams, not a bunch of good-natured clowns. If I want to see that, I'll go to the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Never forget, all it takes is one team who is either a) desperate or b ) stupid or c) both. . . .over/under on years before they regret this deal? I go 2.5 . . . If you're talking about the Cano deal, it isn't as stupid as it looks at first. Baseball is a business, you have to put meat in the seats. If Cano draws back the fans that the M's have been losing for years of stupid deals, it's worth it in the short term. If they can find someone to hit behind him not named Raul Ibanez, they could be a threat. Certainly a six-year deal would have made a lot more sense since you're talking about a position where speed is essential and while I know "speed never slumps", it does age, and age badly at that. The last guy to play 2nd at 40 years old was probably Eddie Collins. There's a reason for that. The M's have a quality 2nd baseman for 5-6 years and then they have a grotesquely overpaid DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Beltran to the Yankees? Say it ain't so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I don't think you guys realize how desperate the Mariners are. Attendance is plummeting year after year after year and this city is starting to care less and less. I honestly think if you surveyed people up here right now, over 70% would not give a shit if the franchise were to move. The soccer team up here is more popular than the Mariners are. That bad? I left Seattle in 2007 and they were still doing the laughable promotion of a losing team with "You gotta love these guys!", No, no I don't. I like to see competitive teams, not a bunch of good-natured clowns. If I want to see that, I'll go to the circus. Attendance figures by year since you left: 2007: 2,672,409 2008: 2,329,702 2009: 2,195,284 2010: 2,085,630 2011: 1,896,321 2012: 1,791,920 2013: 1,761,546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I don't think you guys realize how desperate the Mariners are. Attendance is plummeting year after year after year and this city is starting to care less and less. I honestly think if you surveyed people up here right now, over 70% would not give a shit if the franchise were to move. The soccer team up here is more popular than the Mariners are. That bad? I left Seattle in 2007 and they were still doing the laughable promotion of a losing team with "You gotta love these guys!", No, no I don't. I like to see competitive teams, not a bunch of good-natured clowns. If I want to see that, I'll go to the circus. Attendance figures by year since you left: 2007: 2,672,409 2008: 2,329,702 2009: 2,195,284 2010: 2,085,630 2011: 1,896,321 2012: 1,791,920 2013: 1,761,546 Holy shit! That's terrible. The team can leave, then Seattle can sue MLB and get another shitty expansion team... Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 3/45. The Yankees now have six outfielders under contract - guessing they eat Wells' contract and try to trade Gardner for pitching. The Yankees don't have to eat any of Vernon Wells contract b/c the Angels are still paying him. They were just so desparate to dump him last year. The Angels are paying *most* of it - NYY is still on the hook for $3M. Actually less than Toronto is still paying, which is hilarious. There was a report from this morning that said Arizona was in the running for Beltran. Kevin Towers is a fucking moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 3/45. The Yankees now have six outfielders under contract - guessing they eat Wells' contract and try to trade Gardner for pitching. The Yankees don't have to eat any of Vernon Wells contract b/c the Angels are still paying him. They were just so desparate to dump him last year. The Angels are paying *most* of it - NYY is still on the hook for $3M. Actually less than Toronto is still paying, which is hilarious. There was a report from this morning that said Arizona was in the running for Beltran. Kevin Towers is a fucking moron. The NYY make $3 million in peanut sales. What's hilarious is Toronto is still paying this choad, as you said. I can't think of too many players who have made more for doing less than Vernon Wells. Good on him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The Yanks are shopping Ichiro and listening to offers on Brett Gardner - so clearly it looks like one of them is going to be dealt. Obviously Gardner would bring more back in return but who the fuck knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The Yanks are shopping Ichiro and listening to offers on Brett Gardner - so clearly it looks like one of them is going to be dealt. Obviously Gardner would bring more back in return but who the fuck knows Who will overpay for a 40-year old leadoff hitter? Someone needs to step up and give Ichiro a 2-yr deal so he can get his 3000. (Yes, I know that when you count his Japan stats he has way over that mark, but it would be kind of cool to see him compile 3000 in MLB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The Yanks are shopping Ichiro and listening to offers on Brett Gardner - so clearly it looks like one of them is going to be dealt. Obviously Gardner would bring more back in return but who the fuck knows I doubt that Arizona would listen to offers for him and he's under contract until 2016, but I'd love to see the Yankees try and make a trade for second baseman Aaron Hill. Maybe offer some combination of Brett Gardner, Eduardo Nunez and either Francisco Cervelli or Austin Romine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think Ichiro should come back to Seattle so he can sulk and pout through his last few hits to 3000 like he did his last couple seasons the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Happy Start of Winter Meetings Day! So what is everyone looking for their team to do or does anyone have any predictions? For me, I'm hoping the Cubs trade Shark and get more back for him than the Tigers received for Fister. I'd also like to see the Cubs pick up Michael Morse, Gavin Floyd, or both. Avoid Tanaka. Yeah, avoid Tanaka. I'm worried about what kind of condition his arm is in after the mileage he picked up this past season. And bold prediction: Cubs complete a stupid lowball trade for Giancarlo Stanton and the 4 Marlins fans left are then reduced to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Happy Start of Winter Meetings Day! And bold prediction: Cubs complete a stupid lowball trade for Giancarlo Stanton and the 4 Marlins fans left are then reduced to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Roy Halladay is retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Signing a one-day deal with the Jays as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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