manzk Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That, shooting about ex-girlfriends that no one care about, both guys passing the microphone back and forth, BJ Whitmer trying to do a serious promo in a super phony way while Jacobs just no sells the whole thing about RE-BUILDING IWA-MS~! Indy wrestling at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newb82 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 A promo about how crappy the promotion is in comparison to years past? Both must have thought they were at an RoH show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 And even if it was a dollar and a hotdog, it is the principle of the matter. The last thing Punk needs to do right now is eat a hot dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That was some sad sad shit. 20 people in the crowd barely reacting, the DJ looking like a doofus in the background. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who would have thought Axl was the smart one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who would have thought Axl was the smart one. No one has. It's a dumb and dumber deal. And Ian must be smart enough to be an effective con man for as long as he was/ is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Awkward. I am reacting to this bit of sad news like a mark trying not to be worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Axl's a junkie but at least that only hurts himself and close loved ones. Ian seems to have gone out of his way to fuck over everybody. Who would have thought Axl was the smart one. No one has. It's a dumb and dumber deal. And Ian must be smart enough to be an effective con man for as long as he was/ is. Axl's a junkie but that only hurts himself and close loved ones; Ian has gone out of his way to fuck everybody over. But yeah, dumb and dumber, or more appropriately dumb and absolutely horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 What other figures of the wrestling world, if they said they had cancer, would also have people saying that "X claims to have cancer" rather than "X has cancer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Casey Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 What other figures of the wrestling world, if they said they had cancer, would also have people saying that "X claims to have cancer" rather than "X has cancer"? Shit, I don't know...Fritz Von Erich? Yeah, I got nothin' after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Fritz Von Erich claims to be dead, but I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Hulk Hogan had cancer once but then he Hulked up and kicked its ass. The cancer also weighed 900 pounds, did coke with one of the Belushi's and banged his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I could see that being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerangedHermit Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 What other figures of the wrestling world, if they said they had cancer, would also have people saying that "X claims to have cancer" rather than "X has cancer"? Sunny. Also, if Ric Flair said he had cancer, I'd believe it but would be wary once he starts begging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 What other figures of the wrestling world, if they said they had cancer, would also have people saying that "X claims to have cancer" rather than "X has cancer"? Vince Jim Miller Richard Arpin ...who did lie about cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Wasn't there a lucha guy recently that people are still dubious of him having cancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 So any chance this is all part of an elaborate Walter White gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Rotten is like a Dollar Tree Paul Heyman. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 To elaborate on what I said earlier.... This is the mugshot of former NWA President and promoter Richard Arpin. Arpin was the "promoter" for the NWA promotion based around the Parkersburg, WV/Marietta, OH area. When I first broke in with the NWA up in Pittsburgh, I was always looking for more bookings, and was able to get a carload of guys booked for Arpin on a regular basis. Arpin was a shady carny motherfucker, and was also an awful promoter and human being. However, I had fun working his shows, because somehow he assembled a good group of workers. An awful payoff guy too. I finally had a big falling out with him in 2002 and decided he wasn't worth the effort. A year or so later, he usurped the NWA Presidency in what was pretty much a coup, where his biggest accomplishment was renewing the NWA's licesning deal w/ TNA Wrestling in exchange for a dark match for his "golden boy" Rocky Reynolds, and promoter Fred Rubinstein getting a try-out as a ref. Bill Beherens used Arpin's ineptitude to finally take control of the NWA, and shortly Arpin "folded" his promotion up, and began licensing the NWA name to an Ohio promoter by the name of Dave Nelson. You may remember Nelson as the promoter for WWWA, which supposedly had names under contract, and was claiming a cable network television deal (that obviously never materialized). This was in 2004-2005, and Arpin pulled out of the Nelson promotion altogether, claiming he had stomach cancer. I ended up seeing him at the 2005 NWA Convention, and he looked to have lost 150-100 lbs (Arpin was pushing 400lbs when I was wrestling for him), so I thought perhaps it was true. After that, I pretty much heard nothing about the guy for two or three years. It turned out that he had started working as an orderly at a Parkersburg area hospital, and was caught stealing oxycodone, and his wife left him and took the kids. At that point he started dating an underage girl, and at some point he got busted for it, and did a minor stint in jail. His weight-loss due to cancer ravaging his body? Nope, he had Lap-band surgery.The cancer story was a cover for him getting booted from his own promotion, and to hide the fact he had surgery. My understanding was that when he got out of jail, he ended up moving to Florida, where in 2012 he was arrested as part of an undercover sting operation, where he sold 30 kilos of opiates to police officers. Supposedly he caught a 12-year stint in the pokey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Part of me is saying "oh, dear God no! Not this again!"But really, this won't be the official DVDVRMB until someone christens it with an all-purpose "Fuck Ian Rotten and IWA-MS" thread. Seems like only yesterday when IWA MS was the golden promotion of the board too Does anyone remember what specific incident or time frame the tide started turning on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Becky Bayless was dating the guitarist from Breaking Benjamin??? And BJ Whitner was dating Daffney??? Thanks for the sleaze education, Jimmy and BJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 So any chance this is all part of an elaborate Walter White gimmick? You mean Ian's making meth? Entirely possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 At some point Ian Rotten entered the Tyson zone, so him faking cancer or mixing meth is not out of the realm of reason. Really it was never just one incident that turned people off to IWA-MS, it was a series of stupidity that lead to its current level of disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I think that anyone involved in wrestling has to have a certain amount of shadiness in them... and people like Ian Rotten actually test the boundaries of what someone can get away with. He keeps getting away with it because he really only harms people in the business. No one cares about people in the wrestling business, least of all, the actual people in the wrestling business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Wasn't there a lucha guy recently that people are still dubious of him having cancer? Perro Aguayo Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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