Brian Fowler Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Thing is, if Colorado wins, Michigan will have beaten two of the five conference champions head to head. Strength of schedule, head to head, and conference titles are what they say matter. My gut is Wisconsin would jump Michigan, Penn State wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Wisconsin vs Alabama would be a massacre. Nick Saban would be forced to retire in disgrace! Not for losing, but for destroying such a vulnerable team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Helfrich has been FE'd at Oregon. That is fucking savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Smart on their part. They started falling off big time the moment Mariota left. It was clear Helfrich was not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, EVA said: Smart on their part. They started falling off big time the moment Mariota left. It was clear Helfrich was not the guy. Oh please. They were two scores away from going 11-2 the year after he left and this year's team was super young. One bad year and you're out? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 As if I didn't want Navy to win already http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18171618/navy-midshipmen-win-aac-title-game-paralyze-bowl-system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If WMU runs the table and wins the MAC title, I have no earthly idea why that doesn't make the Group of 5 bid academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, RIPPA said: As if I didn't want Navy to win already http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18171618/navy-midshipmen-win-aac-title-game-paralyze-bowl-system GO NAVY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Pete said: Oh please. They were two scores away from going 11-2 the year after he left and this year's team was super young. One bad year and you're out? Really? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-oregons-fall-under-mark-helfrich-ranks-all-time/ It's one of the worst declines by a program ever. Oregon has no interest in returning to the mediocre outpost they were prior to Kelly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Pete said: If WMU runs the table and wins the MAC title, I have no earthly idea why that doesn't make the Group of 5 bid academic. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Because no one outside of hardcore college football fans and Michiganders have ever heard of WMU. The bowls are not about rewarding teams, they're about making money. Navy is a hell of a lot easier to sell than Western effin Michigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Pete said: Oh please. They were two scores away from going 11-2 the year after he left and this year's team was super young. One bad year and you're out? Really? Could this mean Chip is coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Officially, it's because Navy has beaten three relatively good teams, and Western Michigan has beaten roughly nobody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Oregon has no interest in returning to the mediocre outpost they were prior to Kelly. Phil Knight isn't paying for 4-8 records. (sips tea) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Also, what happens if Clemson and Washington lose? In theory, "move up the next two" but that would be Michigan and the B1G champ, and, clearly, there is no way the B1G gets 75% of the field. Does Colorado move all the way up from 8 to 4? If so, do you take two teams Michigan has beat over them, or do you take two different teams that failed to win their division? Do you try to avoid some of that debate and jump the Bedlam winner even more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 25 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: Also, what happens if Clemson and Washington lose? In theory, "move up the next two" but that would be Michigan and the B1G champ, and, clearly, there is no way the B1G gets 75% of the field. Does Colorado move all the way up from 8 to 4? If so, do you take two teams Michigan has beat over them, or do you take two different teams that failed to win their division? Do you try to avoid some of that debate and jump the Bedlam winner even more? Michigan would not have to worry about any of this if they didn't lose to stinky old Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: (sips tea) Logic dictates you don't fire someone unless you have the replacement teed up, so Chip v2 isn't impossible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 6 hours ago, Dewar said: Michigan would not have to worry about any of this if they didn't lose to stinky old Iowa. Iowa won 8 games, beat #3, and beat #16 by 30. That's a top 15 resume in the SEC They're not great but they're definitely not stinky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If Wisconsin wins and Clemson or Washington lose, I think that would put the Badgers in the top four, that's literally the only scenario where that's even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I tend to agree. I *think* Wisconsin would jump Michigan (and hold off Colorado if necessary) given that they only lost by seven at the Big House. Penn State is a whole different can of worms. On one hand, it's hard to leave them out if you take Ohio State, given that Pedo State beat Ohio and would have the conference title (but one more loss) while it would also be hard to take them over Michigan who, you know, beat PSU by 39 fucking points. If I'm the committee, I'm all but begging Clemson to win and Washington to win big. (Reading between the lines from what they said Tuesday, it sounds like at least some of the committee still wanted Michigan over Washington. And if the Huskies barely beat Colorado, the argument for Michigan above them might gain momentum.) Otherwise Sunday might be one hell of a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Alabama will sleep-walk through Wisconsin or whomever then probably punch Ohio State in the balls a few times and win by 20 after falling asleep in the 2nd quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I feel like Ohio State is the only team with the athletes to keep up with Bama, but they'd have to play an almost perfect game. Clemson did give them all they could handle last year, but they just haven't looked that good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 For those of you that are into this sort of thing... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Alabama vs Western Michigan would be hilarious for all the wrong reasons. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm hoping in a perverse way that the PedoBear makes an encore appearance in Indianapolis to his debut at the Ticket City Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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