stro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Um, Cesaro has done that move to bigger guys than this, so #FuckOffCesaro will not trend, nice try. Sheamus is bigger than Giant Baba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 He's actually not that dramatically smaller than Baba was, I'm almost positive he's done the move to Great Khali, so that sort of makes the argument pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Shockingly, his skull didn't, I assume. It eventually did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Baba was tall but his build was fairly spindly. Cesaro did that spot with Kane, whose build is not. (Now I kinda wish we had seen Cesaro throwing gassed-up 1999 Kane around.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I was just pointing out how dope Jumbo was. And Baba before 1977ish. In that match, Jumbo also slammed Baba multiple times with ease and walked around the ring with him on his shoulders in a fireman carry with no struggle at all. I was really expecting him to hit Baba with the deadlift belly to belly at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Baba was "only" 330, so it doesn't seem that difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Not the best night for Rick Steiner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 That could have went a lot fucking worse for him all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 That could have went a lot fucking worse for him all things considered. Yeah. He might've made Meng mad. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I love Jumbo and I love Cesaro. Can't we all just get along? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trocar Slush Weasel Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 #fuckoffcesaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 #jumbo>cesaro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 #whocares 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 So simple, yet brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I always thought that DVDVR board consensus was Jumbo Tsuruta was the single best in-ring Wrestler of all time. Stro trying to argue that he is in fact very good is pretty much preaching to the choir, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't think stro was trying to argue "Jumbo was really good" so much as saying "Jumbo was really good so there's no point in Cesaro even existing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 I always thought that DVDVR board consensus was Jumbo Tsuruta was the single best in-ring Wrestler of all time. Stro trying to argue that he is in fact very good is pretty much preaching to the choir, isn't it? Jumbo is one of my all-time favorites (he was my favorite until I finally fully embraced Andre but that isn't a slight on him) but I don't think I have ever said he was the the best in-ring of all time. However - there is a movement afoot by several (who post across multiple sites) that Jumbo is really overrated, was only good for like 3 years and the rest is very boring. So one could argue he is more focusing his argument towards those folks. That being said - Cris is also right in that there tends to be a general mentality that when comparing two things that the one you don't prefer either is unnecessary or sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm just watching 40 year old matches where Jumbo was doing spots people think are amazing when Cesaro does them today. I do think Cesaro is kind of whatever, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 MORE AWESOMENESS! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Backlund Lift is my favorite power spot of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 MORE AWESOMENESS! Ivan's "SONUVA!" reaction and then getting dope-slapped makes that whole sequence. Volk was amazing but these clips really make you question how anyone thought these matches were shoots at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Backlund was a freak. He did that spot with Hogan in 1980 when Hogan was well over three bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm just watching 40 year old matches where Jumbo was doing spots people think are amazing when Cesaro does them today. I do think Cesaro is kind of whatever, though. Yeah, but you should be thankful that Cesaro is there doing Jumbo's moves. Because then if you want to turn someone on to Jumbo, you have an easy comparison so you can "If you like X, you'll love Y" the whole thing. If Cesaro wasn't out there, who would you have to say Jumbo is a better version of? Kurt Angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Cesaro is nothing like Jumbo, though. Outside of a couple of moves, which aren't exactly Jumbo specific either. Kurt Angle isn't a patch on Jumbo, either. Jumbo used psychology and selling. Cesaro matches have no psychology and haven't since the matches with Sami in NXT. Angle hasn't used psychology or selling in about 14 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 But... WHEE!!!!!!! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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