Eivion Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 The trailer was good. So far it looks to be about Cap protecting Bucky though I suppose there will be a lot more to it than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Huh. They amped up the "Captain America is wrong" aspect from the comic to the point where even *I* started pulling for Tony by the end of the trailer. A 2 on 1 handicap match is never the hallmark of babyfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty J. Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Huh. They amped up the "Captain America is wrong" aspect from the comic to the point where even *I* started pulling for Tony by the end of the trailer. A 2 on 1 handicap match is never the hallmark of babyfaces. To be fair Tony could hang with Thor and fucked up Hulk's shit. They need to fight together to make it slightly more even. PS: I'm hyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 A 2 on 1 handicap match is never the hallmark of babyfaces.But it was the most badass part of the whole trailer by a Cyclopean margin, so I've got no problem with it whatsoever. Besides, Bucky's basically just an ordinary human with no superpowers besides his prosthetic arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 No, he's not. Hydra were experimenting on him to try and make him into another Cap/ Red Skull level guy... so he's a semi-Super Soldier, like Emile Blonsky was before he got Hulkified. If he was a normal human with a metal arm, why was he able to go toe to toe with Cap and do well in Cap 2? They already established in that film that a peak-training human (Batroc) couldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I ldo ike the attention given to Bucky Barnes in the trailer as a fan of the character, what was done to him and wanted to see more of him in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Not sure what to think about that. Some cool visuals and I can see Cap and Tony being at odds but this universe's version of Stark does not strike me as a pro-government guy and neither does Black Widow. Stark and his father have made their family fortune making weapons for the US Armed Forces and have been all "democracy in our time" since the beginning. They are about as pro-government as you can get. Stark strikes me as definitely being pro-registration as: 1. In AoO, he anticipates the Hulk going rogue and built the Hulkbuster armor as a countermeasure, so he at least has it in his head that society needs protection from all supers whether they be "heroes" or "villains." 2. Building Ultron was all about Tony retiring from the super hero business because he doesn't want the responsibility of being a super hero anymore. Registration is the next best thing to Ultron and it will be just as disastrous. This is the comic book version of the old Jeffersonian debate about security vs. liberty. I don't perceive Widow as being particularly pro-government given her manipulation by the KBG, but I do see her striking a pro-registration pose / Batman-esque stance vs. supers since she has no powers herself, knows the dangers posed by supers, and wanting to be as prepared as possible for a super gone batshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I gotta be honest, that trailer didn't do much to grab me. Definitely pales in comparison to the WINTER SOLDIER trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Welp, the last of my interest in that just disappeared. Yeah, best way to adapt the worst comic story in a long time is to *actually* make Cap the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 The Cap series seems to be heading down the path of the Daniel Craig Bond movies where every movie is about him going rogue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Not sure what to think about that. Some cool visuals and I can see Cap and Tony being at odds but this universe's version of Stark does not strike me as a pro-government guy and neither does Black Widow. Stark and his father have made their family fortune making weapons for the US Armed Forces and have been all "democracy in our time" since the beginning. They are about as pro-government as you can get. Stark strikes me as definitely being pro-registration as: 1. In AoO, he anticipates the Hulk going rogue and built the Hulkbuster armor as a countermeasure, so he at least has it in his head that society needs protection from all supers whether they be "heroes" or "villains." 2. Building Ultron was all about Tony retiring from the super hero business because he doesn't want the responsibility of being a super hero anymore. Registration is the next best thing to Ultron and it will be just as disastrous. This is the comic book version of the old Jeffersonian debate about security vs. liberty. I don't perceive Widow as being particularly pro-government given her manipulation by the KBG, but I do see her striking a pro-registration pose / Batman-esque stance vs. supers since she has no powers herself, knows the dangers posed by supers, and wanting to be as prepared as possible for a super gone batshit. Yet in Winter Soldier she practically dared the government to come after them, basically saying they wouldn't because the government is going to need them when the shit hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Natasha is obviously a mole. I'm surprised Stark is gullible enough to trust her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 If she's not a mole then it makes no sense for her to be anti-Cap right now. I can believe Stark being pro-government to an extent given what JT has said but I really don't think they've set that up well and it was his fault that all of this is happening. Yet in the end of Age of Ultron he's all like "so fuckin what, here's me in my badass car, come do something about it". How does he go from that no fucks attitude to being concerned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Because Bucky killed his dad, probably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Even if that's the case you have Stark as a hypocrite and Cap putting everyone at risk. These are supposed to be heroes, man. Well, I liked the trailer anyway and I'll be there opening night I'm just wondering how they get from point a to b. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Well, let's not forget that it's based on a fucking terrible comic book where motivations made no fucking sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Actually, wouldn't it be better to forget that if possible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It would be if they didn't insist on making it a movie. They should've done Serpent Society instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Civil War was unavoidable. Despite it not being a good story, it's a big modern crossover that has a lot of notoriety. It's an easy concept to market for this group of characters. Plus Marvel props it up as one of their bigger hit crossovers ever, so from that standpoint it makes sense to make a movie out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Civil War was unavoidable. Despite it not being a good story, it's a big modern crossover that has a lot of notoriety. It's an easy concept to market for this group of characters. Plus Marvel props it up as one of their bigger hit crossovers ever, so from that standpoint it makes sense to make a movie out of it. You aren't wrong, and the movie might very well end up being really good. But it feels so poorly built too, both in terms of motivations, and with Cap and Tony's relationship. They've spent half their screen time together at each other's throats. This isn't a well established great friendship breaking down. They really should have done Serpent Society. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I want three things from this movie, and I expect to get one. In descending order of likelihood: 1) Black Panther utterly disassembling multiple people on Team Cap 2) Ant-Arrow 3) Zemo accidentally gluing a balaclava to his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I want three things from this movie, and I expect to get one. In descending order of likelihood: 3) Zemo accidentally gluing a balaclava to his face. Those honey pastry things? They're pretty sticky, but I don't think they'd adhere to the face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I want three things from this movie, and I expect to get one. In descending order of likelihood: 3) Zemo accidentally gluing a balaclava to his face. Those honey pastry things? They're pretty sticky, but I don't think they'd adhere to the face. ? It's a type of mask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He's thinking of baklava, possibly intentionally mixing them up for a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Civil War was unavoidable. Despite it not being a good story, it's a big modern crossover that has a lot of notoriety. It's an easy concept to market for this group of characters. Plus Marvel props it up as one of their bigger hit crossovers ever, so from that standpoint it makes sense to make a movie out of it. You aren't wrong, and the movie might very well end up being really good. But it feels so poorly built too, both in terms of motivations, and with Cap and Tony's relationship. They've spent half their screen time together at each other's throats. This isn't a well established great friendship breaking down. This. I want three things from this movie, and I expect to get one. In descending order of likelihood: 1) Black Panther utterly disassembling multiple people on Team Cap 2) Ant-Arrow 3) Zemo accidentally gluing a balaclava to his face. New Captain America: Civil War synopsis: Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War finds Steve Rogers leading the newly formed team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. But after another incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability, headed by a governing body to oversee and direct the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers, resulting in two camps—one led by Steve Rogers and his desire for the Avengers to remain free to defend humanity without government interference, and the other following Tony Stark’s surprising decision to support government oversight and accountability. Get ready to pick a side and join the nonstop action playing out on two fronts when Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War opens in U.S. theaters on May. Even Marvel are surprised by Tony Stark's decision ; ). As the tagline for Civil War said...Whose side are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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