Travis Sheldon Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Why can't the Dodgers hold on to someone for their career ala Jeter, Ripken, Gwynn? I'm not saying Kemp was anywhere close to any of those guys production wise, but it gets old having a favorite homegrown player get traded. Guess I should enjoy Puig for the few years he has left with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Why can't the Dodgers hold on to someone for their career ala Jeter, Ripken, Gwynn? I'm not saying Kemp was anywhere close to any of those guys production wise, but it gets old having a favorite homegrown player get traded. Guess I should enjoy Puig for the few years he has left with them. Because they have better outfielders waiting for playing time that don't make way too much money for an injury prone player who can't defend his position anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Also, those three players you mentioned were varying degrees of "unplayable" during their final years for teams that didn't really sniff the playoffs. The Dodgers would like to win a title rather than be sentimental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 And Melky is going to the South Side of Chicago for 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 A moment of silence, please. Sy Berger, father of the modern baseball card, dead at 91. Someone better than me can make a joke about cards in bicycle spokes or something. Or you can just be bitter like Rippa and me and realize that every damn baseball card we own is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have two very large rubbermade crates full of baseball cards that I wonder why I even hold onto them. I've contemplated ditching everything except for my more valuable cards, if I even have valuable cards left, cards for favorite players, and cards for Cubs players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffman Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I had/probably still have the Topps Don Mattingly rookie card. I looked it up sometime in the late 80s and saw it was worth $40 at the time. I treasured that card and kept it as safe as possible because 13-year-old me knew it would be my ticket to fame and fortune. Of course, by the late 90s it fell to under five bucks, so petulant twentysomething me relegated it to that big box of cards I revisit every so often. And so Don Mattingly was replaced on my "favorite card in my collection" list by a tattered Rolf Benirschke football card solely for his few months of Wheel of Fortune hosting duties after he left the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have a Donruss Greg Maddux rookie card. I just looked up the eBay value and it's basically good enough to buy a large fry from McDonalds. That bums me out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Chase Headley returning to the Yanks 4 years, $52 million He should get more if he pushes A-Rod off a cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 That's pretty good for Headley. I love his glove at 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I liked Headley better then Sandoval this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This also appears to be "Someone Please Take Colby Rasmus" day. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 But you get his dad's expertise too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Great! You get his creeper stage dad and headcase Colby all in one deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 But you get his dad's expertise too!!!! As someone who was really into sports talk radio in St. Louis in the summer of 2011... If he comes to the Cubs I will curse wildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have a Donruss Greg Maddux rookie card. I just looked up the eBay value and it's basically good enough to buy a large fry from McDonalds. That bums me out. But...but...is that card... God, I will never stop being bitter about the worthlessness of baseball cards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Casey Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have a Donruss Greg Maddux rookie card. I just looked up the eBay value and it's basically good enough to buy a large fry from McDonalds. That bums me out. I think that has something to do with how massively overproduced cards were in the mid-late 80's. The sheer numbers means that even a coveted rookie card from that time period isn't worth all that much on its own. The only real exception I can think of is the '89 Upper Deck Griffey, and even that's dropped in value a lot in the last 10 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Oh, for sure. I think Olbermann, and others, have written about how horribly oversaturated the market became. I'm also afraid of opening up my crates of cards in fear that they've turned to dust or mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I have a Donruss Greg Maddux rookie card. I just looked up the eBay value and it's basically good enough to buy a large fry from McDonalds. That bums me out. I think that has something to do with how massively overproduced cards were in the mid-late 80's. The sheer numbers means that even a coveted rookie card from that time period isn't worth all that much on its own. The only real exception I can think of is the '89 Upper Deck Griffey, and even that's dropped in value a lot in the last 10 years or so. Yeah, there was a fantastic book called Mint Condition (Slate excerpt here) that came out 4-5 years ago which covered all the sleaze about the card market bubble. But yeah, starting about 86-87, cards started getting produced in the billions/year which...yeah. Made all of them completely worthless and essentially killed the industry. In a nutshell, you would have been better off investing in Enron than in the card market. Sigh. I don't even want to think of the money I blew on cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Wow, was it that early? I'm trying to think, but I can only recall Topps, Donruss and Fleer. I thought Upper Deck came along a little later in the game producing more premium cards that were produced on glossy card stock. EDIT: In any event, thanks for the book recommendation. I'll have to put that on hold at the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Chase Headley returning to the Yanks 4 years, $52 million He should get more if he pushes A-Rod off a cliff This is one the Yankees had to get. I think there's enough in the bullpen to replace Robertson and as much as I would have liked Brandon McCarthy back; not at what the Dodgers gave him. Now, we can leave Prado at 2nd, his natural position. The focus has to turn to the starting pitching now. I still believe the Yankees will end up with Max Scherzer despite what Brian Cashman says. I would also take a flier on Kris Medlen. If Medlen is recovered from TJ surgery, he will be a steal for somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah, found this at Deadspin. Fleer and Donruss came into the picture in 81 and Upper Deck came on in 89 (the fabled Griffey card was #1 card of their first set). Upper Deck created the super-expensive craze which I assume chased many of you out of bothering as it did me. But it was the Mattingly rookie card of 84 that is is credited with creating the whole cardmania craze that ran wild through the late-80's/early-90's. Once the sharks smelled blood of the Mattingly card love; 1986-on featured overproduction by Fleer, Donruss and Topps (along with fly-by-nights that popped up) that essentially made anything aside from the fabled Jr card worthless. And yeah, that book is awesome as long as you don't think about how much money you blew on cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Chase Headley returning to the Yanks 4 years, $52 million He should get more if he pushes A-Rod off a cliff $13m a year for a guy that's a CAREER 1.8 dWAR and has only ever had one good season at the plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Torii Hunter just got $10 million for a season. So clearly people are just giving money away. Someone was giving him that much whether it be the Yanks or another team There is also this... @AaronGleeman Pablo Sandoval, 2012-2014: .759 OPS, 116 OPS+, 8.2 WAR, $90 million Chase Headley, 2012-2014: .782 OPS, 123 OPS+, 13.6 WAR, $50 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah, Headley even with his outlier year still has been a consistent 3 WAR player. He's a solid everyday 3rd Basemen, which had value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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