July 2024 Wrestling Talk

[ChesterCopperpot]

would indicate a WWE signing

[twiztor]

10 minutes ago, AxB said:

Stephanie Vacquer has left CMLL and NJPW, and has been stripped of her CMLL titles. Will not be appearing at Fantasticmania this weekend.

i found her a bit underwhelming in her Forbidden Door match, but i see most others praising her in it. I guess WWE made her an offer she couldn't resist. Good for her.

[AxB]

She could steal Cody's entrance gimmick. "Wrestling has more than one... Stephanie"

[nofuture]

18 minutes ago, AxB said:

Stephanie Vacquer has left CMLL and NJPW, and has been stripped of her CMLL titles. Will not be appearing at Fantasticmania this weekend.

WWE does have two house shows in Mexico this weekend.  Timing seems pretty convenient.

[Elsalvajeloco]

Considering she was trending on Twitter several hours after Forbidden Door was over, the time was ticking on her being in Mexico whether she was going to AEW or WWE. If Levesque wants to brag about signing someone away from AEW, this one would be it.

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

I am all for whatever gets Stephanie Vaquer fame and fortune. She's great.

[Cobra Commander]

Stephanie Vaquer, or as she's known in Quebec.. Stéphanie Vacher.

There's been enough actual Quebecois wrestlers that i'm sure some of them have worked cowboy gimmicks. Just imagining Jacques Rougeau working as a Blackjack.

[Technico Support]

17 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

According to Shane Douglas, there was an incident where Erik didn't sell something right or at least in the eyes of Cowboy. Once Erik came backstage, Bill went up to him and I believe slapped the everloving shit out of him causing Erik to look bewildered his dad would have the temerity to do that. Bill then said, "Now that's how you sell a punch."

God damn.  Add that to the "Bill Watts is a piece of shit" list.  Really, "any grown man who insists you call him 'the cowboy' is probably garbage" needs to be in your hard and fast rules of life.

15 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Watching the Morishima tryout matches

1) I'm feeling the "Brock Lesnar reacting to seeing Keith Lee" gif when I see how huge Morishima was at this time

2) Imagine the world where Morishima is 1/3rd of the 3 Man Band group. For all the comparisons to Stan Hansen, he's really more of a Terry Gordy

I heard Michael Hayes torpedoed Morishima's chances because he was salty at all the Gordy comparisons.  But I also read someplace that Vince was in a bad mood that day, saw Morishima, and ranted about "why are we giving this fat Japanese girl a tryout?!"  So I'm not sure which is true.

3 hours ago, twiztor said:

WWF @ Johnstown, PA – Cambria County War Memorial – June 7, 1995: WWF Tag Team Champion Owen Hart pinned Chris Benoit at 10:14 after blocking Benoit’s victory roll attempt
(this was a Wrestling Challenge taping, so footage likely exists)

 

Benoit was led to the ring by DiBiase, either just for heat or because they were considering putting him in DiBiase's stable. 

 

Edited July 10, 2024 by Technico Support

[Cobra Commander]

Let's pretend that Chris Benoit was gonna get the Ringmaster gimmick if he signed the contract.

But in the spirit of late 90s/early 2000s prank callers talking about Benoit in a ladder match... would Benoit's arms be long enough to apply the Million Dollar Dream?

As for Bill and Erik Watts, it's probably not a total coincidence that Erik Watts chose to go to Louisville for college so he could get some distance from Bill for a few years. I'm just imagining the Watts WCW/Cornette Smoky partnership lasting long enough that Cornette is tasked with trying to get Erik Watts over, because you know he would have been tempted to make Erik a heel who fell under the bad influence of other wrestlers.

[Cobra Commander]

There's commercials for Chris Jericho's podcast on radio stations because it's on the Audacy app.. not sure how efficient it is to ask people listening to the radio in 2024 to listen to podcasts because radio people are the last holdouts against podcasts

[Elsalvajeloco]

6 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

Let's pretend that Chris Benoit was gonna get the Ringmaster gimmick if he signed the contract.

But in the spirit of late 90s/early 2000s prank callers talking about Benoit in a ladder match... would Benoit's arms be long enough to apply the Million Dollar Dream?

As for Bill and Erik Watts, it's probably not a total coincidence that Erik Watts chose to go to Louisville for college so he could get some distance from Bill for a few years. I'm just imagining the Watts WCW/Cornette Smoky partnership lasting long enough that Cornette is tasked with trying to get Erik Watts over, because you know he would have been tempted to make Erik a heel who fell under the bad influence of other wrestlers.

I just watched the Raw last night where Glen Jacobs debuts as Isaac Yankem. There is a world where Chris Benoit comes in as an evil dentist and wrestles Bret Hart at Summerslam 1995. 

[Cobra Commander]

1 minute ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

I just watched the Raw last night where Glen Jacobs debuts as Isaac Yankem. There is a world where Chris Benoit comes in as an evil dentist and wrestles Bret Hart at Summerslam 1995. 

"This Dentist is called the Crippler because his dental work will cripple your mouth"

The Crippler Crossface being used as the finisher of a dentist would certainly be a choice.

[Elsalvajeloco]

2 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

"This Dentist is called the Crippler because his dental work will cripple your mouth"

The Crippler Crossface being used as the finisher of a dentist would certainly be a choice.

The mini origin for the character via Lawler in the vignettes is he use to be this great wrestler before becoming a dentist. That fits a more technical wrestler than your average powerhouse.

[Cobra Commander]

Mick Foley really missed out on getting to use the Mandible Claw as a wrestling dentist who coincidentally is missing a few teeth

[twiztor]

5 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

"This Dentist is called the Crippler because his dental work will cripple your mouth"

The Crippler Crossface being used as the finisher of a dentist would certainly be a choice.

well, the crossface makes more sense than a DDT. Plus, they can make some joke about "open up and say aahh" while it's applied

and, with the gap in Benoit's teeth, it might actually be....better?

[Cobra Commander]

In which Jerry Lawler explains that his dentist uses headbutts to knock out loose teeth

[Elsalvajeloco]

39 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

God damn.  Add that to the "Bill Watts is a piece of shit" list.  Really, "any grown man who insists you call him 'the cowboy' is probably garbage" needs to be in your hard and fast rules of life.

I heard Michael Hayes torpedoed Morishima's chances because he was salty at all the Gordy comparisons.  But I also read someplace that Vince was in a bad mood that day, saw Morishima, and ranted about "why are we giving this fat Japanese girl a tryout?!"  So I'm not sure which is true.

Benoit was led to the ring by DiBiase, either just for heat or because they were considering putting him in DiBiase's stable. 

 

Man, that would have been career killer as much as the stable needed someone like that. The Million Dollar Corporation was just a vortex of suck. Sid being in the stable diminishes him, and he is suppose to be feuding with Diesel before Mabel ultimately challenges Diesel. It also doesn't help they book Sid as this coward when he is suppose to be psychotic. 

[SirSmUgly]

26 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

I just watched the Raw last night where Glen Jacobs debuts as Isaac Yankem. There is a world where Chris Benoit comes in as an evil dentist and wrestles Bret Hart at Summerslam 1995. 

When you put it that way, it gives me some comfort that there's a world in the multiverse that is even worse than this one. 

[Technico Support]

7 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Man, that would have been career killer as much as the stable needed someone like that. The Million Dollar Corporation was just vortex of suck. Sid being in the stable diminishes him, and he is suppose to be feuding with Diesel before Mabel ultimately challenges Diesel. It also doesn't help they book Sid as this coward when he is suppose to be psychotic. 

When your stable starts off with a WAAAAAAAY past his prime Nikolai Volkoff working a "down on my luck" gimmick, you're off to a horrible start.  Somehow they decided adding unmotivated Bam Bam Bigelow, damn near heatless Tatanka, and also washed up Bundy who hadn't been hot in a decade was the way to go.  Fucking New Generation era, man.

 

Edited July 10, 2024 by Technico Support

[SirSmUgly]

Huh, I don't think I fully remembered that there was a time that Tatanka, Kid, and Steve Austin were all under the employ of Ted DiBiase at the same time. Now that's a stable that could be pretty productive, theoretically. 

[Elsalvajeloco]

54 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

When your stable starts off with a WAAAAAAAY past his prime Nikolai Volkoff working a "down on my luck" gimmick, you're off to a horrible start.  Somehow they decided adding unmotivated Bam Bam Bigelow, damn near heatless Tatanka, and also washed up Bundy who hadn't been hot in a decade was the way to go.  Fucking New Generation era, man.

 

Maybe it's recency bias, BUT having just watched it, Tatanka vs. Lex Luger should've gone down as one of the top 5 worst wrestling feuds in not just WWE history but pro wrestling history as a whole. That put an end to Lex Luger as a serious player in WWF. It also wouldn't fucking end.

[Robert S]

44 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Maybe it's recency bias, BUT having just watched it, Tatanka vs. Lex Luger should've gone down as one of the top 5 worst wrestling feuds in not just WWE history but pro wrestling history as a whole. That put an end to Lex Luger as a serious player in WWF. It also wouldn't fucking end.

+1 to that, that promo series before Summerslam was atrocious. The only feud, angle or whatever that I have seen semi-recently that I would on par with that is whatever WWF was doing with the Undertaker between ca. King of the Ring 98 and Summerslam 98. It's actually pretty comparable with *redacted* doing "you are in cahoots with Kane" promos ca. 3 times each Raw for one months straight while Tatanka saying the same thing about Luger (well, having sold out to DiBiase instead of conspiring with Kane, obviously).

[Robert S]

21 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Since the WWE vault posted Morishima tryout matches. Here’s some dark matches that may or may not be in their vault. Some of which have probably already been released.

(...)

Funny that they posted the Morishima matches now considering we were talking about them on this board maybe a month or two ago.

[Ziggy]

1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Considering she was trending on Twitter several hours after Forbidden Door was over, the time was ticking on her being in Mexico whether she was going to AEW or WWE. If Levesque wants to brag about signing someone away from AEW, this one would be it.

She seems to be a better fit for AEW. AEWs women's division is finally coming along really well right now after all these years. They really need to if they want a return of investment in Mercedes. But good for her if she did sign with WWE. I'm sure she got a good offer from WWE because I'm sure Tony seen value in her after Forbidden Door. Mercedes speaks highly of her to probably have TK offer her a nice deal. The current regime in WWE does well with new international talent coming in but most get lost in the shuffle even if they do become the backbone of the division 

[odessasteps]

2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Stephanie Vaquer, or as she's known in Quebec.. Stéphanie Vacher.

There's been enough actual Quebecois wrestlers that i'm sure some of them have worked cowboy gimmicks. Just imagining Jacques Rougeau working as a Blackjack.

Cowboy Bret Hart is funny enough.