Curt McGirt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I guess everyone wants a black dude to play Kang but I looked it up as I was curious and he's a descendent of Reed Richards. They can do what they want and I've no issue with it personally but they're gonna have to change canon somehow and that might piss off the Marvel hardliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 He's generally a descendant of Nathaniel Richards. Reed's father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Also, it's not like he's Reed's son or half-brother. There are more than enough generations between him and Nathaniel that he could easily be a black dude. (Three or four would be plenty, I would think.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 And at one point, he was also Doom’s descendant and even Doom himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I saw something on Twitter that I assume was a joke that Marvel was in talks with Ryan Gosling for an “undisclosed role” that people were presuming was Kang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) One of the best things I saw yesterday was a picture from Bewitched with a Kang head on Darren’s body that said “if they can replace Darren, they can replace Kang.” Edited December 20, 2023 by odessasteps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Ryan Gosling is apparently in negotiations to join the MCU in an unknown role. I'm positive the list begins and ends with the words "Scott" and "Summers". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Ryan Gosling is apparently in negotiations to join the MCU in an unknown role. I'm positive the list begins and ends with the words "Scott" and "Summers". Do we know for sure the words "Reed" and "Richards" aren't also on the list. If we're not sticking with Krasinski that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Raziel said: Do we know for sure the words "Reed" and "Richards" aren't also on the list. If we're not sticking with Krasinski that is. Not unless something big has changed. And, no, Jim's not Mr. Fantastic any more. https://deadline.com/2023/11/pedro-pascal-reed-richards-marvel-studios-fantastic-four-1235599560/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 This is what I really don’t like with how the MCU has grown, hiring expensive, super well known actors for these roles. Sure RDJ was well known when he was cast as Tony, but he was more well known for being a fuck up who might have been on a redemption tour starting with KKBB. He also wasn’t expensive. There are a ton of really good actors out there that people aren’t super familiar with. Go with one of them. Create a new star and draw people into your movie because it’s good, not because Ryan Gosling is in it or Pedro Pascal is in it and I really love both of those guys. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Another note, supposedly the first villain of the MCU X-Men is going to be this fella Spoiler Or someone with a similar name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 15 hours ago, Ace said: He's generally a descendant of Nathaniel Richards. Reed's father. 14 hours ago, tbarrie said: Also, it's not like he's Reed's son or half-brother. There are more than enough generations between him and Nathaniel that he could easily be a black dude. (Three or four would be plenty, I would think.) Good point. I knew about the Nathaniel part. It would be pre-supposing that Nathaniel is only into white ladies I guess and that is racist as well as stupid. As the late great Gilda Radner would say, "Nyever mind" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said: this fella Even though I grew up on X-Men and with their games I cannot identify at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Even though I grew up on X-Men and with their games I cannot identify at all Pardon my cheek. That was Sinistar, from the 80's video game. The villain is Mr. Sinister. (Though, notably, he's also supposed to be the big bad in X-Men '97, so grains of salt and all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 They did just finish (or will soon) a big Sinister cross-over, so he probably is the current big bad, along with ORCHIS (let’s just say Sentinels for those not up on Krakoa era X-books). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Yeah, haven't even heard of Sinistar. That game looks frickin chaotic. I'm almost surprised they didn't have the control ball instead of a joystick for the console. Haven't heard of X-Men '97 either and that sounds awesome! As far as Mr. Sinister, works for me. You can't always start with Magneto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Yeah, haven't even heard of Sinistar. That game looks frickin chaotic. I'm almost surprised they didn't have the control ball instead of a joystick for the console. Haven't heard of X-Men '97 either and that sounds awesome! As far as Mr. Sinister, works for me. You can't always start with Magneto. Not to mention you could have Magneto be a babyface from the start of the reboot and then maybe eventually turn him heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: Not to mention you could have Magneto be a babyface from the start of the reboot and then maybe eventually turn him heel. Just knowing what I know about Fiege's MCU and his propensity to kill off villains. I'd guess Mags works with the X-Men (maybe even is one), and when they defeat Sinister, his heel turn comes with Charles begging him to stop, but he ends up brutally killing Sinister (and probably some innocents). (But thinking about it, that's kinda what happened in First Class, so something else should probably happen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Craig H said: This is what I really don’t like with how the MCU has grown, hiring expensive, super well known actors for these roles. Sure RDJ was well known when he was cast as Tony, but he was more well known for being a fuck up who might have been on a redemption tour starting with KKBB. He also wasn’t expensive. There are a ton of really good actors out there that people aren’t super familiar with. Go with one of them. Create a new star and draw people into your movie because it’s good, not because Ryan Gosling is in it or Pedro Pascal is in it and I really love both of those guys. Yep, I'm guessing Marvel has been cold for so long that they're hoping established stars will draw now that the thrill of seeing superheroes has worn off. This is definitely a Val Kilmer as Batman vs Michael Keaton as Batman thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 RDJ also worked as Tony on the meta level (recovering addict trying to clean up his life). I'd have to think how many other people that works for in MCU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: Yep, I'm guessing Marvel has been cold for so long that they're hoping established stars will draw now that the thrill of seeing superheroes has worn off. This is definitely a Val Kilmer as Batman vs Michael Keaton as Batman thing. The thing is that established stars with any degree of discernment can detect the smell of grizzly death coming off this shit and should be prohibitively expensive to lock into multi-picture deals. The budgets on these things need to get smaller, and unless the bag is ridiculous then the Adam Drivers and Margot Robbies of the world should be saying no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Ryan Gosling is apparently in negotiations to join the MCU in an unknown role. I'm positive the list begins and ends with the words "Scott" and "Summers". This feels accurate though for some reason Gosling feels more like an Alex Summers to me. 5 hours ago, Craig H said: This is what I really don’t like with how the MCU has grown, hiring expensive, super well known actors for these roles. Sure RDJ was well known when he was cast as Tony, but he was more well known for being a fuck up who might have been on a redemption tour starting with KKBB. He also wasn’t expensive. There are a ton of really good actors out there that people aren’t super familiar with. Go with one of them. Create a new star and draw people into your movie because it’s good, not because Ryan Gosling is in it or Pedro Pascal is in it and I really love both of those guys. Like Ms. Marvel? I'm pretty sure they do both in terms of looking at big stars and testing out newbies/unknowns. With some of these you have to remember directors/producers already had a person(s) in their head who fit the role. Sometimes they also just might want to throw a bone to some fan castings like we saw with Krasinski in Multiverse of Madness. I think they still do screen tests/auditions for newer characters. 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: Not to mention you could have Magneto be a babyface from the start of the reboot and then maybe eventually turn him heel. Supposedly they aren't planning to use Magento at all in the first film at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 This shit’s dead. After this year, every A-lister should be trying to play Polly Pocket or get cast in a biopic about whoever created Agent Orange. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I can't see them doing anything with Orchis, Krakoa, Mars, or any of that shit in any of these movies. You already have Wakanda, a secret country that's ultra high tech. Bringing in something like Orchis would make me think there would also be a Krakoa, yet another secretive land no one knows about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I've never liked Kang even before Jonathan Majors and more since his debut in Loki Season 1. I think Marvel Studios recast Kang but if it was up to me, I'd replace Kang with Doctor Doom. I am concerned with how X-Men, Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom are handled as the quality control has dropped since the Infinity Saga concluded. My Marvel Studios interest as a result of which has fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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