RIPPA Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 When it comes to going for it on 4th down/two point conversations, in the past coaches were way too conservative. But now, they seem to have swung totally in the other direction and take too many chances. We saw that Thursday by the Chargers, now by the Ravens, and probably a dozen other examples from the weekend (Panthers did it too, went for it 4th and 1 from the 50 still in the 1st quarter, leading to a Bills TD). I am not anti-analytics but coaches need to use their own brain too, look at the situation and the players and take in the whole picture. As a fan, I love the aggression, its exciting, but it seems to not usually work out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogwelder Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said: When it comes to going for it on 4th down/two point conversations, in the past coaches were way too conservative. But now, they seem to have swung totally in the other direction and take too many chances. We saw that Thursday by the Chargers, now by the Ravens, and probably a dozen other examples from the weekend (Panthers did it too, went for it 4th and 1 from the 50 still in the 1st quarter, leading to a Bills TD). I am not anti-analytics but coaches need to use their own brain too, look at the situation and the players and take in the whole picture. As a fan, I love the aggression, its exciting, but it seems to not usually work out well. Well the Ravens did the same thing against the Steelers a couple of weeks ago and lost because of a failed 2 point conversion. You would think Harbaugh would have learned from that... Edited December 20, 2021 by dogwelder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 the networks don't want no overtime messing with their time slots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, dogwelder said: Well the Ravens did the same thing against the Steelers a couple of weeks ago and lost because of a failed 2 point conversion. You would think Harbaugh would have learned from that... At least against Pitt it felt like a good play call, but yea you'd think he wouldn't have done it again. I also had an issue with the play call vs GB as that play seemed doomed from the start, it fooled no one. Poorly handled as we all saw Andrews talk to Harbaugh, and maybe noticed Andrews didn't even stay in the huddle to hear the play because he already knew it, clearly it was going to him. They have one of the best kickers in the NFL, go to OT and see what happens there. They had the momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 They were scared of John Wick (Rodgers) beating them in the last 40 seconds of the game. As a Packers' fan I was surprised since Tucker is their Kicker but happy they failed. Man we always SUCK against Running QBs I remember when Joe Webb lit us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 If they were up by one point, it wouldn't have stopped GB from scoring and beating them in the last 40 seconds. If anything that would have made them try even more aggressively to win, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The Panthers did it today because the lost their kicker just before kickoff. . .not that I am complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kuetsar said: The Panthers did it today because the lost their kicker just before kickoff. . .not that I am complaining. I can excuse the one from FG range but when they went for it from the 50 was just silly at that point in the game. Teams just see 4th and 1 and auto-go for it now. Which is fun to watch but not always logical. It was also a terrible play call on top of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, Kuetsar said: The Panthers did it today because the lost their kicker just before kickoff. . .not that I am complaining. apparently they had to stage an emergency audition for backup kicker during warm ups, in which DVDVR's Official Favorite Backup QB, P.J. Walker, won out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think Baltimore went for two because they were more scared of Rodgers getting the ball first in overtime than they were of him executing a field goal drive in 40 seconds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 how exciting is tonight's SNF game? Cris Collinsworth just tried to get hype over the possibility we might get to see the rare Free Kick. And of course immediately jinxed it by doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 What a weirdly ugly game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 field goals, 12 punts, about time Football had the Foot put back in [real shame we missed out on that Free Kick possibility, in retrospect] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Make that 16 Punts. Just... insane. I think for once it's safe to count out Touchdown Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 All I know from watching this game is they are going to throw Antonio Brown a big WELCOME BACK party tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawful Metal Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: apparently they had to stage an emergency audition for backup kicker during warm ups, in which DVDVR's Official Favorite Backup QB, P.J. Walker, won out. You mean Houston Roughnecks All Time Greatest QB PJ Walker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 can't spell class without A-S-S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 John Harbaugh calling in the play at the end of the Packers game (and the Steelers game two weeks ago): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Gee - I wonder why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Duke looked like college Duke yesterday, so good for him. The Dolphins run game has been terrible all year, so it was refreshing to see it be somewhat competent yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chaos said: Duke looked like college Duke yesterday, so good for him. The Dolphins run game has been terrible all year, so it was refreshing to see it be somewhat competent yesterday. To be completely fair, it was against the Jetropolitans and any basically competent RB could look like Walter Payton facing them. That being said, I'm going to be much happier next week because the Saints D is at least legit. (Their offense is absolute trash, but still.) Then finishing out against Tennessee and New England... That being said, I'm very happy for the Duke, and hoping he leads us to three more W's. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: can't spell class without A-S-S That Chicago Bear making a tackle and looking at The Steeler's bench... unsportsman like taunting. Tom Brady jogging to a coach on the opposite team and saying Go Fuck Yourself... totally fine, no penalty. Proof these taunting flags are bullshit and just there for the illusion of "cleaning up the game". 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Neither Baker Mayfield nor Case Keenum cleared COVID protocols so Nick Mullens will be starting for the Browns tonight. And Kevin Stefanski is still out so Special Teams coordinator Mike Priefer will be acting HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: That Chicago Bear making a tackle and looking at The Steeler's bench... unsportsman like taunting. Tom Brady jogging to a coach on the opposite team and saying Go Fuck Yourself... totally fine, no penalty. Proof these taunting flags are bullshit and just there for the illusion of "cleaning up the game". still not as bad as last year's Super Bowl where Tom Brady started woofing at one of the Chiefs at the end of the first half and the guy he yelled at got the Taunting Penalty But always worth pointing out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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