RIPPA Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Playoff scenarios for Week 14 RAVENS Clinches division title: BAL win + PIT loss or tie BAL tie + PIT loss Clinches playoff berth BAL win BAL tie + TEN loss or tie BAL tie + HOU loss or tie HOU loss + IND loss or tie + TEN-OAK ends in tie CHIEFS Clinches division title: KC win + OAK loss PATRIOTS Clinches playoff berth: NE win NE tie + PIT loss NE tie + TEN loss or tie NE tie + HOU loss or tie HOU loss + IND loss or tie + TEN-OAK ends in tie BILLS Clinches playoff berth: BUF win + HOU loss + OAK loss or tie + IND loss or tie SEAHAWKS Clinches playoff berth: SEA win or tie NINERS Clinches playoff berth: SF win + LAR loss or tie SF tie + LAR loss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 And the Panthers have fired Ron Rivera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, RIPPA said: And the Panthers have fired Ron Rivera I didn't think Garrett would outlast Rivera but here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Football is stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, RIPPA said: And the Panthers have fired Ron Rivera Does anyone have any explanation on why Ron Rivera was always about 2 minutes from being fired? Was he just unlikeable, it doesn't seem to make sense that he gets fired this season when they didn't really have a chance. Once Cam went out, they were pretty much done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Do Gettleman and Rivera hate each other? Because I like Rivera but I don't like Gettleman and don't trust him to build a team. I mean either way the Giants will suck but I like Rivera more than Garrett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, CSC said: Football is stupid. Happy birthday @CSC! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, supremebve said: Does anyone have any explanation on why Ron Rivera was always about 2 minutes from being fired? Was he just unlikeable, it doesn't seem to make sense that he gets fired this season when they didn't really have a chance. Once Cam went out, they were pretty much done. Because the aura of Jerry Richardson is still strong and Rivera has ruined the great white hope that they expected to have after Kyle Allen's first few games and someone's head had to roll because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, CSC said: Because the aura of Jerry Richardson is still strong and Rivera has ruined the great white hope that they expected to have after Kyle Allen's first few games and someone's head had to roll because of it. Cam Newton's legacy is going to be incredibly interesting to discuss. He's totally unique player who was as good as any player in the league at his peak, but I don't think he'll be remembered that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, supremebve said: Does anyone have any explanation on why Ron Rivera was always about 2 minutes from being fired? Was he just unlikeable, it doesn't seem to make sense that he gets fired this season when they didn't really have a chance. Once Cam went out, they were pretty much done. Because his teams were super-inconsistent. 15-1 one year but under .500 all the rest of his years combined. Never had back-to-back non-losing seasons. Seemed to be the king of the "finish just strong enough to not get fired" team. At least that's my guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, supremebve said: Cam Newton's legacy is going to be incredibly interesting to discuss. He's totally unique player who was as good as any player in the league at his peak, but I don't think he'll be remembered that way. Agreed. He never quite got "there" as a passer - 6 times under 60% completions - but he was a unique force and was really great the year Carolina went 15-1. But he was also a little inconsistent and came into the league a little tainted because of the Auburn scandal, which seems to have colored perception of him forever. Shying away from the fumble in the Super Bowl did him no favors. But...he still WAS that unique force and went shamefully unprotected by the league, leaving him vulnerable to injury. TL;DR - I dunno what his legacy will be, LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, supremebve said: Cam Newton's legacy is going to be incredibly interesting to discuss. He's totally unique player who was as good as any player in the league at his peak, but I don't think he'll be remembered that way. Historical sports discussions almost invariably overvalue long-term pretty good accumulators over players with a really high peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Ron Rivera was the JTG of head coaches. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, supremebve said: Cam Newton's legacy is going to be incredibly interesting to discuss. He's totally unique player who was as good as any player in the league at his peak, but I don't think he'll be remembered that way. Especially if what is essentially a better version of him in Lamar continues the way he is going also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I'll miss Motorboat Ron and his Steve McMichael transitionals. No-one does a 4th down play better or worse. Edited December 4, 2019 by RolandTHTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Death From Above said: Historical sports discussions almost invariably overvalue long-term pretty good accumulators over players with a really high peak. Yep. Eli Manning will be a hall of famer, but Randall Cunningham who had 2 different seasons better than anything that Eli Manning could ever dream to be, won't even be on a single ballot. There will be 100 more Eli Mannings in our lives, but we may never see another Randall Cunningham. I get why Cunningham didn't win MVP in 1998, because Terrell Davis was an absolute force that year, but 1990 may very well be the best season any quarterback has ever had in the history of the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, RolandTHTG said: Especially if what is essentially a better version of him in Lamar continues the way he is going also. Lamar Jackson is a completely different player though. A big part of Cam's game was that he is so fucking massive. He is the best short yardage weapon of all time, because trying to stop a man that big, strong, fast, and athletic from getting a yard or two is nearly impossible. Cam also had elite arm talent, he can throw the ball a mile without really even stepping into the throw. It's probably why he never developed into a great passer, his talent let him do outrageous shit with terrible technique. Lamar Jackson's game is much more based on speed. Lamar is the best athlete on the field every single week, and it's usually not that close. He can just run away from everyone. Lamar has good arm talent, but it isn't elite. He doesn't have a wet noodle arm, but his arm isn't anything to write home about at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Jackson is much closer to a better Michael Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, supremebve said: Lamar Jackson is a completely different player though. A big part of Cam's game was that he is so fucking massive. He is the best short yardage weapon of all time, because trying to stop a man that big, strong, fast, and athletic from getting a yard or two is nearly impossible. Cam also had elite arm talent, he can throw the ball a mile without really even stepping into the throw. It's probably why he never developed into a great passer, his talent let him do outrageous shit with terrible technique. Lamar Jackson's game is much more based on speed. Lamar is the best athlete on the field every single week, and it's usually not that close. He can just run away from everyone. Lamar has good arm talent, but it isn't elite. He doesn't have a wet noodle arm, but his arm isn't anything to write home about at all. I take your point on the discrepancy of the respective arms, but feel that peak Cam's biggest weapon was his rushing yards - which in hindsight was just what you said - a realisation that it took something ridiculous to stop someone that big from going where they wanted, and once that happened enough, he hasn't really presented as a threat on the rush for a couple of seasons (especially since the emergence of CMac also). Lamar has the potential to still be putting up absurd rushing numbers much longer than Cam did because he's too quick to be taking those hits as frequently, and will probably get far better protection for it too. That rushing yards record is going to get obliterated this year and it will be interesting to see what the shift will be in QBs trying to emulate that, in the same way that plenty of mid range shooters tried emulating Stef Curry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Craig H said: Ron Rivera was the JTG of head coaches. Then he shouldn't have picked up his phone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, supremebve said: There will be 100 more Eli Mannings in our lives So 100 guys are going win 2 Super Bowls? That means I would have to be alive for at least 200 more years. I will take that deal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Eh. I don't know if I want to see what this planet is going to look like in 200 years. Elsewhere... Miami has put Kalen Ballage on IR, ending his season. (Ending with a hilarious 1.8 yards per carry average.) Patrick Laird will take over duties. (Of note... Miami's next three are the Jets, the Giants, and Cincinnati. Laird is probably not picked up in your league. With those three opponents... you should consider it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: So 100 guys are going win 2 Super Bowls? That means I would have to be alive for at least 200 more years. I will take that deal. Somewhere in there, Rippa is egging me on to go all - JIM PLUNKETT FOR THE HOF!!!!! But I got the questionable decision to put Snake Stabler in the Hall during my lifetime. I will refrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RIPPA said: So 100 guys are going win 2 Super Bowls? That means I would have to be alive for at least 200 more years. I will take that deal. I meant we're going to have 100 more quarterbacks who go .500 for their careers, but I guess we can all cherry pick numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, supremebve said: I meant we're going to have 100 more quarterbacks who go .500 for their careers, but I guess we can all cherry pick numbers. A .500 record AND two Super Bowl rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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