Rehabilitated Rick Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 With Cena hurt, Taker old/busted/semi-retired & Brock on a part-time schedule (if that) how are they planning on selling Wrestlemania in 2014? They expect people to pay $75 for Daniel Bryan & C.M. Punk? I just feel like WWE doesn't have any stars. They don't have anyone that I would pay money to watch. Being good at your craft of wrestling is all well & good but you need to draw me into the show & make me suspend disbelief. Cena's coming back at the end of the month (which isn't to say he won't get injured again between now and Mania), I can pretty much guarantee Taker's going to work Mania even if that's his only match the entire year, and Lesnar's still under contract for a while yet. You do, however, make a valid point in regard to WWE making new stars. Last year 'Taker wrestled Punk. Who could 'Taker wrestle this year? I assume he'll be there too, get him to 25-0 is probably the goal... Just looking at the roster, I'm not seeing anyone credible for 'Taker or for the main event. I think Cena Vs. 'Taker is the biggest money match they probably have. But what about the rest of the card? They just feel thin. They have talent, for sure. Just no one that really screams "I need to see this guy." I don't think they're relying too much on their current crop when they have Jericho, Van Dam, Batista, Hogan, Sting, Goldberg, Lesnar, Rock, Austin all being sent out feelers for their biggest show ever. I'm sure they have a spine of what the WM30 card looks like already. But you're right on the stars thing, I won't feel obligated to watch the company post WM30 honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino_Not_Deuce Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I get a Wyatts vs. Kane/Taker vibe for Mania. But, if they're putting out feelers for those guys, there's no way that goes on the card. Maybe Survivor Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I feel really good about the Performance Center to be honest. I feel really good about NXT and I feel really good about where things are going in the next few years when it comes to new talent. I think things are going to look pretty good in general in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino_Not_Deuce Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I feel really good about the Performance Center to be honest. I feel really good about NXT and I feel really good about where things are going in the next few years when it comes to new talent. I think things are going to look pretty good in general in three years. Especially if they make all our dreams come true and Titus O'Neill and Darren Young become joint WWE Champion and go around foiling the Wyatts' attempts to kidnap poor Kofi Kingston and have their way with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Full content listing for the "History of WWE" DVD out next month Disc 1 Documentary Beginnings Bruno Sammartino The Northeast Stars of the 70s Titan Takeover Hulkamania First WrestleMania Saturday Night's Main Event WrestleMania III PPV Expansion Steroid Trial New Generation Monday Night RAW Monday Night War Montreal Attitude Era Tragedy in Kansas City Smackdown Expansion Brand Extension WrestleMania Stadiums Hall of Fame WWE Studios Securing the Future 50 Years Disc 2 WWE Championship Match Bruno Sammartino vs Billy Graham Baltimore,MD * April 30, 1977 WWE Championship Match Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant WrestleMania III * March 29, 1987 Royal Rumble Match Royal Rumble * January 24, 1988 First Episode of Raw Koko B.Ware vs Yokozuna RAW * January 11, 1993 King of the Ring Finals Jake Roberts vs Steve Austin King of the Ring * June 23, 1996 Disc 3 WWE Championship Match Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels Survivor Series * November 9, 1997 Tyson and Austin! RAW * January 19, 1998 WWE Championship Match Triple H vs The Rock Smackdown * August 26, 1999 Mr. McMahon Announces the Purchase of WCW RAW * March 26, 2001 The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan WrestleMania X8 * March 17, 2002 Battle of the Billionaires - Hair vs Hair Match Bobby Lashley vs Umaga WrestleMania 23 * April 1, 2007 Six Man Tag Team Match John Cena, Batista, & Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho, Big Show, & Randy Orton Tribute to the Troops * December 20, 2008 CM Punk Speaks his Mind RAW * June 27, 2011 #1 Contenders Match for the WWE Championship John Cena vs CM Punk RAW * February 25, 2013 Blu-Ray Extras Reporting the News Jimmy Valiant on Vince Sr. Bankruptcy Titan Sports Promo Man WWE Universe Floyd Mayweather vs The Big Show WrestleMania 24 * March 30, 2008 The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels WrestleMania 25 * April 5, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 That's a pretty shitty match selection. Seems kinda sparse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty J. Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I saw guys in traditional Saudi garb dance a tad bit too intimate with each other. Weird shit....Just got an idea for my next erotic novel... Wait... Next?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie20x6 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I had no clue that Goldberg had blu-ray out!* Bill Goldberg vs. Hugh Morrus Nitro - September 22, 1997Bill Goldberg vs. The BarbarianNitro - September 29, 1997Bill Goldberg vs. Steve "Mongo" McMichaelStarrcade - December 28, 1997United States Championship MatchGoldberg vs. RavenNitro - April 20, 1998Goldberg vs. Scott HallNitro - July 6, 1998WCW World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Hollywood Hulk HoganNitro - July 6, 1998WCW World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Curt HennigBash at the Beach - July 12, 1998WCW World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. StingNitro - September 14, 1998WCW World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Diamond Dallas PageHalloween Havoc - October 25, 1998WCW World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. The GiantNitro - November 23, 1998No Disqualification Match for the WCW World Heavyweight ChampionshipGoldberg vs. Kevin NashStarrcade - December 27, 1998Goldberg vs. Ric FlairNitro - March 8, 1999Fatal 4 Way Match for the WCW World Heavyweight ChampionshipGoldberg vs. Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair vs. Diamond Dallas PageNitro - April 5, 1999Goldberg vs. Kevin NashSpring Stampede - April 11, 1999Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas PageFall Brawl - September 12, 1999United States Championship MatchGoldberg vs. SidHalloween Havoc - October 24, 1999Goldberg vs. StingHalloween Havoc - October 24, 1999"I Quit" MatchGoldberg vs. SidMayhem - November 21, 1999No Disqualification MatchGoldberg vs. Scott SteinerFall Brawl - September 17, 20002-on-1 Handicap MatchGoldberg vs. KronikHalloween Havoc - October 29, 2000No Disqualification MatchGoldberg & Dewayne Bruce vs. Lex Luger & Buff BagwellSin - January 14, 2001Goldberg vs. The RockBacklash - April 27, 2003Steel Cage MatchGoldberg vs. ChristianRAW - May 12, 2003Goldberg vs. Chris JerichoBadd Blood - June 15, 2003Elimination Chamber Match for the World Heavyweight ChampionshipGoldberg vs. Triple H vs. Randy Orton vs.Shawn Michaels vs. Kevin Nash vs. Chris JerichoSummerSlam - August 24, 2003World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Triple HUnforgiven - September 21, 2003Goldberg vs. Mark HenryRAW - October 6, 2003Goldberg vs. BatistaRAW - November 10, 2003World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Triple HSurvivor Series - November 16, 2003Goldberg vs. Brock LesnarWrestleMania XX - March 14, 2004Blu-ray Special FeaturesBattle Royal for the WCW World Heavyweight ChampionshipGoldberg vs. nWo Wolfpack (Kevin Nash, Sting, Konnan & Lex Luger) vs. nWo Hollywood (Hollywood Hogan, Giant, Scott Hall & Scott Norton)Road Wild - August 8, 1998Goldberg vs. Bam Bam BigelowSuperBrawl IX - February 21, 1999Goldberg vs. StingNitro - November 8, 1999No Disqualification Match for the WCW World Heavyweight ChampionshipGoldberg vs. Bret HartStarrcade - December 19, 1999World Heavyweight Championship MatchGoldberg vs. Shawn Michaels RAW - October 20, 2003 That will be a Black Friday pick-up, for sure. *Does not actually watch any current WWE programming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriusvig Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 WWEshop has a B1G1 sale on DVDs/Blu-Rays, so you can pick up the Goldberg set with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie20x6 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good deal. Now I can watch Goldberg destroy people AND own yet another copy of Mick Foley getting thrown off the cell! That match is like Anchor Bay and the original 'Evil Dead' - there's a new SPECIAL EDITION dvd release of it every 3-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is RVD's contract (and Jericho's I guess) the first step into getting "seasons" going in WWE? There would need to be some kind of overlap so everyone gets a WM payday, but it'd be nice to let some of the guys recuperate for a couple of months. Hell, they've got a large enough roster that some people disappear for months at a time from TV anyway If they need to do that, wouldn't it be best to go further and just make Summerslam and Survivor Series bigger, then focus them as equivalents to Wrestlemania? That way, you don't need any overlap- just put the "season" level names [the more aging/breaking down veterans on the downswing, with the super-over or rising stars being year round] into a January-April shift, a May-August shift, and a September-December shift [giving each one a "big" event per year.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 They've already been positioning SummerSlam as second only to Wrestlemania for the past few years, maybe since '05-ish, and really ramped it up this year. If only they hadn't forgotten about Survivor Series for so long, they could move it to October and position it as the counter-'Mania. Make it a MitB/Gut check/King of The Ring mash-up event, culminating in a new person joining the roster from NXT, or transitioning away from a tag team, or breaking out of the pack. You could do a couple of traditional 5 on 5 Survivor matches, then the survivors battle it out in the main event to become the sole survivor with a guaranteed contract for a title shot or whatever, and kill the MitB briefcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I get a Wyatts vs. Kane/Taker vibe for Mania. But, if they're putting out feelers for those guys, there's no way that goes on the card. Maybe Survivor Series. Why would Taker work Survivor Series other than to suit your fantasy booking scenario? That's a pretty shitty match selection. Seems kinda sparse. I doubt they could come up with a match selection that covers the entire history of the company that would satisfy anyone. I'm thinking/hoping they will put a lot into the documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Royal Rumble is still bigger than Summerslam & has been since 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I have a confession: I don't see what the deal is with Chris Hero/Kassius Ohno. He's not impressive ringwork wise, and I don't see anything in his personality that says "dollar signs." Someone help me... If you ever talk to anyone who's trained or done a camp with him, that guy knows what the fuck he's doing and knows how to pass it on. I can testify to this. When I was breaking in to the biz, Hero helped me out a ton. He had gone to a couple Dory Funk camps shortly before that, and was all about getting in the ring and working on the drills and chain wrestling stuff he picked up there. I get why everyone might not like Chris' work, but he is an excellent trainer. Is RVD's contract (and Jericho's I guess) the first step into getting "seasons" going in WWE? There would need to be some kind of overlap so everyone gets a WM payday, but it'd be nice to let some of the guys recuperate for a couple of months. Hell, they've got a large enough roster that some people disappear for months at a time from TV anyway You get out of here with that logic! There is no room for that in WWE! Now, if you'll excuse us - there's a wrestler backstage who is too confident in their abilities that needs to be taken down a peg. I've said for years, that if WWE was really serious about the health of the boys, they would tour in buses like the top Japanese promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino_Not_Deuce Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I get a Wyatts vs. Kane/Taker vibe for Mania. But, if they're putting out feelers for those guys, there's no way that goes on the card. Maybe Survivor Series. Why would Taker work Survivor Series other than to suit your fantasy booking scenario? Shit, man, I'll call him up and ask. Jesus Christ, that was a totally reasonable response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 That's a pretty shitty match selection. Seems kinda sparse. I doubt they could come up with a match selection that covers the entire history of the company that would satisfy anyone. I'm thinking/hoping they will put a lot into the documentary. They definitely couldn't, but two matches pre-1988 is pretty sad. Not asking for a lot, but 1 or 2 more from that time would be nice. I know footage pre-1980 is spotty at best, but their insistence that Superstar Graham was the only worthwhile thing about the 70s is annoying, as awesome as he was. Honestly, it's not really the selection themselves, it just seems like a pretty small list. Thirteen matches to cover the "History of the WWE"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroresuFan Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 WWEshop has a B1G1 sale on DVDs/Blu-Rays, so you can pick up the Goldberg set with that. Or finally get that Knucklehead/The Chaperone combo you've been dreaming of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 History of WWE dvd should have a Benoit chapter on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why would Taker work Survivor Series other than to suit your fantasy booking scenario?Shit, man, I'll call him up and ask. Jesus Christ, that was a totally reasonable response.I'm just saying - you're being realistic about the Wyatts not making WM due to the part-timers being on the show, why not be realistic about the fact that Taker only works during WrestleMania season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 IIRC Taker was supposed to work Summerslam this year but he got hurt in his last match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Honestly, it's not really the selection themselves, it just seems like a pretty small list. Thirteen matches to cover the "History of the WWE"?I agree, which is why my hopes lie with the documentary portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 IIRC Taker was supposed to work Summerslam this year but he got hurt in his last match.I hadn't heard this - any idea what the rumored program was?Getting himself injured after working 3 or 4 matches this year is probably a good argument that they need to keep his schedule as light as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yeah, if nothing else, the docs are usually fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 IIRC Taker was supposed to work Summerslam this year but he got hurt in his last match.I hadn't heard this - any idea what the rumored program was?Getting himself injured after working 3 or 4 matches this year is probably a good argument that they need to keep his schedule as light as it is. C&P from prowrestling.com: There was immediate speculation that The Wyatts were gearing up for a SummerSlam match against Kane and The Undertaker after they took out Kane on RAW last night. F4Wonline.com reports that The Undertaker may not be ready for SummerSlam as he’s hurt again. Apparently Taker injured himself in his most recent WWE TV angle with The Shield a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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