Thunderlips Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Best: Buzz Sawyer's Power slam Roadies Doomsday device during their rookie year. You knew someone would eventually die Dick Murdoch's Brain buster Stan Hansen's Lariat Liger's Shooting star press Worst: Cena's AA Kane's Choke slam Dusty's Bionic Elbow Magnum TA's Belly to Belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Thunderlips said: Best: Buzz Sawyer's Power slam Roadies Doomsday device during their rookie year. You knew someone would eventually die Dick Murdoch's Brain buster Stan Hansen's Lariat Liger's Shooting star press Worst: Cena's AA Kane's Choke slam Dusty's Bionic Elbow Magnum TA's Belly to Belly I agree with most of this, but Dusty's Elbow always looked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderlips Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2 hours ago, supremebve said: I agree with most of this, but Dusty's Elbow always looked great. I never saw anything great about the bionic elbow. To me, it was just a fat guy landing on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I thought Magnum's belly to belly looked pretty damn good. Quote I never saw anything great about the bionic elbow. To me, it was just a fat guy landing on you. That's precisely why it was effective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 On 9/10/2016 at 8:54 PM, alstein said: I always bought the Scorpion as like the torture rack- submissions based more on overpowering the opponent more than wearing down a part and twisting it. I can buy a power wrestler doing a back submission (and the scorpion to me was a back and leg submission) with slams, the stinger splash, and stuff wearing down the back. Same here. I always thought those were good submission moves for power guys who weren't technical marvels like Luger and Sting. They would employ a basic strategy of overpowering a guy with high impact stuff to weaken whatever body part their move affected and then go for the kill. I can buy a strong guy like Sting only needing a few slams or something like that to sufficiently weaken your back enough for the Scorpion Deathlock to be an effective finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 The belly-to-belly in general is one of the worst finishers no matter who does it - even Bayley's doesn't look that hurty. I'd say it's one of the worst finishers used by some great wrestlers- and Shane Douglas. Sting really had a great arsenal of power moves- he was like a power move technician with his suplexes and slams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, alstein said: The belly-to-belly in general is one of the worst finishers no matter who does it - even Bayley's doesn't look that hurty. I'd say it's one of the worst finishers used by some great wrestlers- and Shane Douglas. Sting really had a great arsenal of power moves- he was like a power move technician with his suplexes and slams. Eh to each his own but I was always able to buy guys like Magnum and The Steiners using a belly to belly to finish an opponent. A quick, high impact suplex delivered by strong guys like that is enough to knock the wind out of most opponents and stun them for three seconds in my mind. I did hate when Shane would finish people in ECW with it though. Not so much his execution of it but the fact that he'd hit his opponent with chains, chairs, etc and couldn't keep a guy down but a suplex would be enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 You know what would be cool? If someone used Shane's rolling neckbreaker to set up a Dragon Sleeper. Best use of a great move from a crappy wrestler that no one ever uses ever EDIT: Nevermind, I forgot he stole that from Hennig. So make it Best Use of a Great Move from A Great Wrestler That Nobody Uses Ever. And speaking of which can somebody give Wyatt the goddamn Asiatic Spike already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Bobby Roode used to do the Rolling Necksnap in every match. But he's always said Perfect was his #1 favourite Wrestler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: And speaking of which can somebody give Wyatt the goddamn Asiatic Spike already? What's the point of Wyatt even having a finisher? Not like he'd use it to win a match or anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 19 hours ago, alstein said: Sting really had a great arsenal of power moves- he was like a power move technician with his suplexes and slams. Sting had a press slam, power slam, and a vertical suplex. What else am I missing? He was pretty basic. I don't even remember him really working the small of the back for the Scorpion Deathlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Wyld Samurai said: Sting had a press slam, power slam, and a vertical suplex. What else am I missing? He was pretty basic. I don't even remember him really working the small of the back for the Scorpion Deathlock. He used the tombstone piledriver quite a bit. I also remember him setting up the Scorpion with a superplex especially against Flair (see the final match on Nitro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The tombstone was one of WCW's big transition moves. I remember Sting Germaning and doing all sorts of suplexes to Vader at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: He used the tombstone piledriver quite a bit. I also remember him setting up the Scorpion with a superplex especially against Flair (see the final match on Nitro). If I'm not mistaken the superplex setup for the Scorpion is also what nearly killed Flair during their sad spectacle match in TNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, alstein said: The tombstone was one of WCW's big transition moves. I remember Sting Germaning and doing all sorts of suplexes to Vader at times. There was a really nice spot in their GAB match where Sting struggled and got Vader over with a Samoan Drop. The way he struggled to get Vader up and sold made a sort of mundane move seem like a Herculean feat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 UWF Sting mostly used the Stinger Splash as a finisher and that became the set-up for the Scorpion in WCW when guys had the good taste to put their arm behind them and sell the impact on the small of their back before collapsing into a heap on the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, J.T. said: UWF Sting mostly used the Stinger Splash as a finisher and that became the set-up for the Scorpion in WCW when guys had the good taste to put their arm behind them and sell the impact on the small of their back before collapsing into a heap on the mat. I really had no idea there was any psychology to why he setup the Scorpion with the splash. I'll have to watch for the back selling now during his matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Sting didn't do a lot of leg work or lower back work to set up the Scorpion. He used a lot of high impact though, so the general idea was that Sting's offense just took a physical toll on you until he just mercy killed you with the Scorpion. Same principle as Ricky Steamboat killing you with science and cardio. Nothing he did really set up the High Cross Bodyblock directly, but his arsenal of holds wore you down and made you susceptible to one last high impact move and you were too tired and too hurt to kick out. It is pretty remarkable how Sting's offense really hasn't changed all that much since his heel days in UWF. He's made you accept that he is a face that mostly brawls like a heel by sheer force of overwheling positive charisma alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Sting's offense changed a good bit in the early 90s, and after his comeback he pared down a bunch of stuff since he couldn't do it as well. I don't think he ever recovered workratewise from that long layoff he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I really like Vader's Face Eraser and Mariko Yoshida's Spider Twist. I hate Hogan's Axe Bomber. I know Wikipedia says it's supposed to be a crooked arm lariat, but it always looked like a shitty clothesline to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'm liking that post because the face eraser needs to make a comeback in the worst of ways. Love the axe bomber from both Hogan and Omori. It's like a snap, upwards clothesline (and Omori would often throw in the rad leg trip). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Speaking of weird finishers: Omori's Axe Guillotine Driver. Such an awkward and dangerous position to be driving someone's skull into the mat from. What was the Face Eraser? I do not recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 think it's the powerbomb variant he does but instead of landing on your back you land on your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 6 hours ago, alstein said: think it's the powerbomb variant he does but instead of landing on your back you land on your face. aka the "wheelbarrow" power bomb variant. I love that move, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 On 9/14/2016 at 9:58 PM, Thunderlips said: I never saw anything great about the bionic elbow. To me, it was just a fat guy landing on you. If the guy is fat enough, you will stay down for a three count after an elbow drop.. Exhibit A: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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