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BretHartBestThereIS tweeted at 2am--"Banged Denny's waitress. Told me I was the greatest with tearz in hr eyez. Julie mad at me. Whuts hur deal?"

I’m honored for there to be a shirt of me getting a Sharpshooter from Bret Hart.

When I was still watching WWE, the Miz was always an instant channel changer for me. I hate his character, hate his in-ring work, hate his promos, hate everything about him. He's the epitome of the boring WWE style.

Would anyone say Chris Benoit was a better Dynamite Kid?

Everything is everything. Not great, but not bad either. Lots of real life adult shit demanding my time and effort right now. Ring vs. The Ring debates are a berserk button of mine, so I felt compelled to chime in. I am bummed about missing HH, but my attention was focused where it needed to be. I will try to participate elsewhere as often as I can.

Flair would be on wife 12.

I love both movies for completely different reasons, but if I had to chose which movie was better overall, I'd have to choose the original J-Horror classic. Verbinski's effort has a lot of elements I admire, but it falls apart in the home stretch. 1. Thematically, I prefer the slow build of Ring to the jump scare punctuated pacing of The Ring. If you are constantly being placed on the edge of your seat, there's no depth to plunge into when the final blow strikes. By contrast, Ring builds on its inevitable dread frame by frame, slacks up to build a false sense of security, and then hits you like a ton of bricks. The fragile hope you've been given when you THINK the curse has been lifted, is suddenly snatched away when Sadako comes creeping through the television set and makes her slow and deliberate march to claim Ryuji's soul. You know in your gut that there is no escape for the poor bastard. The visuals are absolutely terrifying. By the time Samara arrives to snatch the light out of poor Noah, your nerves are already jangled. Noah's death is academic and (worse) anticlimactic. The nature of Samara's manifestation IMO further dilutes the suspense. I am sure that someone thought it would be clever if Samara spirit resembled a faulty electrical signal since she crawled out of a television set and all, but the optics IMO are a bit silly. Samara arrives on a garbled wavelength to keep her appointment with death while Sadako tears a hole in reality itself to meet her murderous deadline. Sadako's come a long way from her humble origins from the novel where she's a sentient strain of smallpox. (Read the books. They are fucking awesome!) 2. Want to know why the ghosts in almost every ghost movie since 1998 resemble yurei / onryo? Because Sadako is fucking scary, that's why. Sadako's only identifiable features are her signature mane of long black hair thorough which peeks a single inhuman looking eye. Less is more, folks. I applaud The Ring for giving Samara a waterlogged appearance to further punctuate the disturbing nature of her death by starvation / drowning in the depths of that horrible well, but they never should have shown her face. 3. On the subject of waterlogged appearances, advantage goes to the US version in the presentation of the dearly departed. Sadako's victims all have the same silly grimace on their faces. Death by fear induced heart attack. Not scary. On the other hand, when I watched the scene where we got to see the state of poor Katie Embry's corpse, it scared the living shit out of me. Katie and Noah's decrepit condition conveyed the idea that Samara kills by somehow forcing you to relive her agonizing death and experience the totality of her suffering all in one moment. That is a horrible fucking way to go. You can see the "this curse will tear your shit to pieces so take it seriously" influence from The Ring in films like It Follows, Relic, Host (the Zoom conference demon movie that has to be seen to be believed! Billion Million Stars!) and other films. It is totally badass. A near omnipresent supernatural force that is so powerful that it can physically mangle the bodies of the living is nothing to be toyed with. This is not the Evil As Wile E Coyote super contrived modus operandi of Death in the Final Destination joints or Satan in the Omen franchise. Your death is not made to look like an accident. The nature of your demise is unmistakable and deliberate. Something bad from somewhere worse came to collect its due. 4. The one thing that the US version gets right in the pacing is the skepticism. No one in their right mind believes in curses even if they have a reasonable respect for the unknown. You can't fault Rachel for not really giving a shit about the curse until the 11th hour when there is overwhelming evidence of the supernatural at work. This is the "death clock" mechanism by which the US version uses to effectively builds tension. Meanwhile for reasons which appear cultural in nature, Reiko automatically believes she is going to be the next victim of the curse from the get go. It doesn't take much prodding. Is Reiko just dumb or do all Japanese people have one foot in the present while the other is lodged in the folklore of the Sengoku period? To be fair, the same thing happens to Koji Suzuki's male antagonist in the novel, but the "belief" in the curse is a by-product of the psychic imprint that the cursed videotape leaves on whomever watches it. A pseudo-scientific explanation to be sure, but it is not a huge ask for an author to request that you buy into the mythology he's creating for you. Ring the movie offers no such explanation for Reiko's unwavering (and correct) assumption that she will be the curse's next victim if she doesn't do something. Most people incorrectly assume that this is some sort of cultural dealie when it is just Hideo Nakata leaving an element from the novel out of his movie. It is debatable whether or not this plot element is better off left in or out of the film. One person's "human with grudging acknowledgement of the paranormal" is another person's "gullible superstitious moron," so IMO it might be best not to allow Reiko to be the spokesperson that helps foreign viewers of the Ring to paint the Japanese as a nation of civilized poseur dipshits that actually believe in ghosts. Or maybe we're the ones being stupid by virtue of our general disbelief? Who knows? 4. The ending of The Ring sucks. There, I said it. Aiden point blank asks is mom if she knows what will happen when they show someone his copy of the cursed video tape. Rachel's answer is, "I don't know." What the fuck do you mean, "I don't know?" Of course you know. Someone is going to die horribly. That's what's going to fucking happen. How pretentious can you get? Here is one of the best examples of a nearly perfectly fine film ruined by a shitty ending. Then you have the final moments of Ring where Reiko is driving to her father's house to show him the cursed videotape so that he can die instead of her son. She understands the nature of the curse and accepts the fact that someone has to take her kid's place on Sadako's preternatural hit list, so better an old man in the winter of his existence than her son whose life has barely started, right? This is the kind of parent that smuggles a gun into a courtroom with the hope that they will get the chance to pop a cap into the offender that is on trial for harming their child. Reiko Asakawa is the 1998 Mother of the Fucking Year, hands down. If only every child were lucky enough to have a parent like that. The ending of this movie fucking rules. That about sums up my feelings about both films. A tad incoherent maybe, but that's what Killean's Red will do to you.

This picture wouldn't load for me until just now and I am so pumped up. https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/t-shirt/men/bull-nakano-vs-tako-wrestler/66334/?a_c=9&a_s=1 You can change the color and type of shirt too. If I had money I'd go with the sweatshirt. But the website looks like they do promo codes regularly so I'd possibly get a reg t-shirt (maybe black? Sky Blue Heather looks lit though) in a few paychecks from now. EDIT: I do like how my storied career as a Jobber to the Stars is told through clothing. Too bad my movie career didn't take off when I was eaten in Oldboy.

To those that say there aren't any great rivalries anymore:

Survivor Series tag team month. Drop your fave:

Nia Jax for me. Awful in the ring to the point of being dangerous, injuring countless people. Coupled with a "my shit doesn't stink" attitude because she's related to the Rock.

Benoit never called anyone a test tube baby or told them to go back to Jupiter or Mars. Advantage Dynamite. A

Santino’s unfunny shtick was “nails on a chalkboard” material for me. I don’t hate any wrestlers, but I do have an irrational dislike of Santino.

Triple H is boring to me so is Randy Orton.

91-92 Nord is 100 times better than 80s Brody.

Saw it in black and white in a theatre and I thought it made the movie worse. At best it adds nothing.

HH24pythons tweeted--"WHut day izit? Went over intnational date line 5 times in two days to slam giants. lulz. It's been Sunday for a week."

AEW dodging another.... bullet.

a couple who i always hated for their in-ring: Bradshaw Test both of those guys were instant interest losers for me. you knew the promo would suck, you knew the match would be shit, just complete wastes on the roster.

Probably only Vince McMahon.

Keeping it in-ring only, Alex Riley is the absolute worst and no one can convince me otherwise.

Here's Team Sherri vs. Team Moolah from Survivor Series '87

Nash, Konnan, Bubba dudley in my permanent top 5. Lots of others rotate through the list,including bischoff, Michaels, Douglas and others.

Again - that was VOTED for movies not who had them appearing on the list Koreeda had 4 movies voted for and you didn’t vote for one of them so maybe that finger should be pointed inward

Saw several OC’s yesterday. Got the thumbs up from a few when I gave them a shoutout.

I unironically enjoy The Berzerker. I also very much enjoy 1995/1996 random TV worker John Nord. I am on board with that.

I think if this was 10(ish) years ago - when the Movie Club was going strong - a movie like Wilderpeople probably would have done better But there are a lot of factors like people leaving the board, people being put in jail, or sadly passing away change the voting demographics And those of us who are still active are aging and have changing tastes

Okay this is legit funny. It will probably be outlawed by Monday afternoon.

About damn time. Jay Lethal may never win another match once word of this gets out.

I stopped watching WWE a few years ago because at some point most of it felt insulting to me, in the way that it seems like they don't care about the audience. For example, I listen to one review show a week about the weekly programming and apparently WWE is doing the same old SS schtick about "the one time a year". An entire year of people moving back and forth from brand to brand and drafts and whatever else and now SS matches with no stakes and nothing on the line and who would care? It's obvious most of it is just last minute, thrown together dogshit, like 75% of the show. They don't care. In an effort to limit social media, I watch AEW in a vacuum and I rarely go into the threads on here. Funny thing, thing, this pandemic has made me want LESS interaction with people, not more.

Hangman Adam Page is the candy scoffing, booze downing Cowboy.

Sasha Banks. Her attitude, mannerisms, promos, visual style, just....everything. Can't stand her. Instant channel changer.

He even played Givens while playing himself in the Good Place.

I have a weird relationship with the WWE that similar to my fandom of the Minnesota Vikings. I’ll be interested and start to really buy into it. Then right when I’m invested again they find a way to lose me. Season ends in a missed field goal or a dumb angle kills my enjoyment. So I check out. Then I hear about Roman Reigns killing it right now and I start to check out YouTube clips. Great matches, I’m in. The gimmick is great. The moment I do? Goldberg will return and squash him. It’ll happen and I just accept my place in this cycle. I hear you on finding certain threads annoying, @Burgundy LaRue. I’ll post my thoughts on casually liking something that is maybe not cool or easy to dislike and it can be eye rolling to get quoted with a “no, that wasn’t good” but not in an attempt of a discussion, just to express negativity. People feel more comfortable being abrasive online than they would act with a person their talking to in person. Hopefully your fun for posting isn’t sucked out, I’d love to read more of your and other people’s opinions. Especially when they are different. As for what I enjoy, right now I’ve just been following AEW. I was diving through older YouTube matches of Bockwinkel and Hokuto and others through the many threads on here, but took a temporary back seat. So I’ve just been enjoying the weekly tv angles. Maybe as things chill out I should find another wrestler to focus on.

Does he own any t-shirts that aren't kind of fascisty?

Thought I had mentioned Gonzales, if I didn't, I certainly meant to. No idea if there's any truth to the rumor that Onita plotted to lure him to Japan where he could be offed by the Yakuza, but considering that Onita is at least 50% batshit crazy, I tend to believe it. To a nicer guy, it couldn't happen. Certainly Brody was a pain-in-the-ass to deal with, but if you have a problem with the guy, just don't book him; there's no reason to knife the dude when he's taking a shower.

Vince Jr., he wrestled so I can pick him. Killed the territories and now most every English language TV show is patterned off of his crap. Hogan for being the face of bad cartoon wrestling. Buh Buh Ray Dudley for being a dick. I left murderers and criminals out of this (kind of).

Probably the most over-rated worker of my lifetime. His ridiculous human pinball over-selling is ludicrous to the point of japery. Were Marty Janetty not such a complete headcase there's no doubt who would have been more fondly remembered. I can't think of a single Shawn Michaels match that wasn't lowered a notch or two by his ridiculous in-ring antics. That the guy was talented is without a doubt, unfortunately, he's one of those guys that needs someone to tell him when to turn it down a notch, sometimes less is more, a concept that eluded him his entire career.

Shawn Michaels

Hulk Hogan. Hated him for always winning, a sore loser when beat fairly, his repeated backstage politics like at Starrcade 1997 vs. Sting and worse of all, he's a racist piece of shit. I have utter contempt for the Hulkster. Fuck you, Hulk Hogan. Fuck right off.

Jeff Jarrett was a perfectly acceptable mid-card guy who had a genius for convincing promoters that he was a much bigger star than he actually was. The Harris twins, in addition to their deplorable politics stunk it up like nobody's business in the ring. A hearty "fuck you" to both of them. Justin Credible was, (as with Jarrett), a perfectly acceptable mid-carder who was pushed to the moon when Heyman didn't have anyone else to drink his Kool-Aid. I don't really blame the guy, he tried, he just wasn't convincing when elevated beyond his capabilities.

Exactly. To be frank, Chuck Taylor does not have a great (or even a good) body by pro wrestling's unrealistic (but also understandable) standards. Joey Janela, either. Hell, Eddie F'n Kingston also doesn't. Who gives a crap? They all - particularly Kingston - bring other, valuable, stuff to the table. It's pro wrestling, not bodybuilding.

Ishii thinks they should loosen up a bit.