Brian Fowler Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The Austin/Pillman angle maybe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: The Austin/Pillman angle maybe? Looks like the breakin, which I’ve seen and is of course awesome, was 11/4/96. Was there a feud running before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just now, Captain Kronos said: Looks like the breakin, which I’ve seen and is of course awesome, was 11/4/96. Was there a feud running before that? Yeah. Although I think the original angle (Where we get the term "Pillman'd" from) was on Superstars. But that moment is really where you could see the gloves were coming off for Vince, and things were gonna get more serious. Granted, I think 98 is mediocre and 99 flat out sucked, but 97 was the WWF at a peak. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Captain Kronos said: Where do you think is a good place to start an Attitude Era watch thru? I was thinking about starting with the Raw following the Screwjob. But then I miss out on the Shawn/Bret goodness throughout 1997, as well as, I assume, the Austin/Vince foundation. (And also Sunny) So then what? Survivor Series 1996? I’ve seen plenty of the main matches and things from this era, but I’ve never done a proper chronological viewing including Raw. Survivor Series 95 would be the proper start. Bret beats Nash and Nash turns heel. The next night he cuts a shootish promo. Same show or soon after, they do the angle where Shawn collapses. The first Goldust angle begins and things feel different. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 12/25/2018 at 4:37 AM, LoneWolf&Subs said: Merry Christmas, and Happy Holiday’s everybody. But I think he got the rematch so yay Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 WWE MSG RESULTS Baron Corbin wins via forfeit over Braun Strowman - Corbin announces himself winner. Vince McMahon comes out and says Corbin's actual opponent is... John Cena beats Corbin Apollo Crews wins Battle Royal for future IC Title Shot - Battle Royal included Konnor, Viktor, Zack Ryder, Curt Hawkins, Rhyno, Heath Slater, No Way Jose, Titus O'Neil and Jinder Mahal Sasha Banks & Bayley beat Mickie James & Alicia Fox (seconded by Dana Brooke) Ricochet/Aleister Black/Matt Riddle/Pete Dunne/Velveteen Dream beat Tommaso Ciampa/Johnny Gargano/Undisputed Era (Cole/Fish/O'Reilly) Elias beat Bobby Lashley - Guitar on a pole match Natalya/Ember Moon beat Riott Squad (Ruby Riott/Liv Morgan) - Sarah Logan was there Finn Balor beat Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler (Three way match) Roode/Gable beat Revival and AOP (Three way - RAW Tag Titles) Dean Ambrose beat Seth Rollins in cage match (IC Title) - Baron Corbin slammed cage door on Rollins head to allow Ambrose to pin Rollins Ronda Rousey beat Nia Jax (w/ Tamina Snuka) - RAW Women's Title - After match, all the heel women beat down Rousey. All the face women made the save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Also - little interesting nugget I saw on Twitter Gedo and Jado did not have a single straight tag (2x2) match together this year which breaks their streak at 25 consecutive years with at least one match Someone asked Meltzer how many teams have done that and his response was most likely the Funks (65-90) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 WWE did one of those top ten moments and used the Smackdown Invasion as number one Raw moment of the year. But they did the black and white gimmick because a child might be traumatized at seeing the consequences of violence. But the way the editing is done, you would be very confused coming in cold. It shows the women invading, then it is black and white with Nia being shoved out and blood every where and no explanation of why Becky is bleeding. If they can't show it, why did they include it on the list? Unless WWE thinks the angle is what made it so memorable and the blood ruined it. I really don't want to be negative. But the choices WWE make is very bewildering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 I saw the video so I know what you are talking about. I think (and this is me totally guessing) it is two seperate things 1) The black & white for the blood is just their SOP now. 2) I think the reason it was edited the way it was is because they want the focus to be on Becky and Rousey - if you show the actual punch, I guess they figure you are thinking it was an angle with Nia and they want her to be forgotten in the process. Kinda like they would like you to forget Goldberg's interference when Eddie pinned Brock. So I don't think it was a don't show the blood AND don't show the punch - they were just two different "policies" that collided in one video 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 hours ago, RIPPA said: Also - little interesting nugget I saw on Twitter Gedo and Jado did not have a single straight tag (2x2) match together this year which breaks their streak at 25 consecutive years with at least one match Someone asked Meltzer how many teams have done that and his response was most likely the Funks (65-90) That streak actually goes back to 1990 if you include their old gimmicks (Punish & Crush, Bulldog KT & Coolie SZ, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The bloody Becky moment is the best Raw moment since something during the height of the Yes movement, no? What else even comes close? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Matt D said: The bloody Becky moment is the best Raw moment since something during the height of the Yes movement, no? What else even comes close? That's actually a really good question and I don't think anything else does come close. MAYBE KO turning on Jericho during the festival of friendship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Victator said: But I think he got the rematch so yay Santa. In Punk's case, yay Hanukkah Hiram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Forget this MSG stuff. Mustafa Ali challenged Bryan for the WWE Championship in Chicago. In a triple threat against Miz. In a cage. YUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 So it was Nia who f'd up Becky's nose? Turned out to be worth it. The segment has so much more impact this way. Bloody Becky beating Ronda with the chair is the most badass thing that's been on WWE tv in years. Great character moment afterwards, when Becky is going back up into the arena. She totally no-sells some dude who wants a high-five. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I still haven't actually seen the broken nose footage. But, yeah, Nia punched Becky in the nose a little too hard when she showed up on Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt D said: The bloody Becky moment is the best Raw moment since something during the height of the Yes movement, no? What else even comes close? Ha. The last two great Raw moments were things that were organic/unbooked. It's almost as if Vince and his writers can't book or write for shit. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 hours ago, RIPPA said: Ricochet/Aleister Black/Matt Riddle/Pete Dunne/Velveteen Dream Hot damn, now THAT is a loaded team. There's four more days in the year; does New Japan have any shows coming up? Jado and Gedo might be able to squeeze one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Here is the WWE video on Top RAW moments For those who can't/don't want to watch, the list is 10) Austin stuns the McMahons 9) Elias/KO roast Seattle 8.) The Balor Club (Balor, Anderson and Gallows tagging) 7) Bayley and Sasha Fight (the time that was supposed to be Bayley's heel turn that never happened) 6) The Shield reformation 5) Ultimate Deletion 4) Ambrose turns on Rollins 3) The RAW Gauntlet match - specifically Rollins wrestling forever 2) Rousey beats up Steph 1) SDL women invasion aka "The Man Comes Around" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Here is the WWE video on Top RAW moment 8.) The Balor Club (Balor, Anderson and Gallows tagging) 7) Bayley and Sasha Fight (the time that was supposed to be Bayley's heel turn that never happened) 5) Ultimate Deletion Lol, anyone else notice that they didn't capitalize on at least three of the ten? Balor Club got a huge reaction.... so, of course, they immediately dropped the idea. Bayley-Sasha built to nothing and took forever to get there. Matt Hardy's run seems like a missed opportunity. Some of the other stuff came to nothing, but was due to things outside the writers' control. Future Shield reunions seem like a bad idea, considering how star-crossed they've been so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 With Cena back, I guess they will have him face someone at mania. Women Tags better be these versions. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Is the Native American women really Jewish and from New Jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, D.Z said: With Cena back, I guess they will have him face someone at mania. Women Tags better be these versions. . 1 hour ago, Web Conn said: Is the Native American women really Jewish and from New Jersey? That would be Princess Victoria (Vickie Otis) and Velvet McIntyre. Victoria is Native American from Portland, Oregon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The Pacific Northwest, my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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