Dolfan in NYC Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, RIShane said: Oh, FUCK YOU lady. 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Even as a face, she comes off as a heel to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think I would almost prefer if we continue to see conflicted Charlotte. She didn't try to weasel her way into the match, Paige added her to the match. On one hand, she is a professional wrestler and the goal is to win championships and get to that pay windah, but at what price? She can look no further than her father to see championships and money can still leave you very broken and alone. Does she want to follow down that road? Can she follow the angel on one shoulder or give into the devil dressed as her father on the other? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Craig H said: Speaking of KO, he was basically rewarded for his loyalty of wanting to spend the rest of his career with WWE by constantly bumping for Braun over the last few months including taking the bump off the ladder at MitB, taking the Foley bump off the cage, and then getting squashed last night. KO went from someone they could build around to a total joke. KO's a guy who's going to keep getting screen time and opportunities in perpetuity because of his strong on-screen personality. I don't think he loses anything bumping like a maniac for a guy who's been built to be Godzilla. In fact he's probably golden for doing his job well and making Braun look like a killer. On the main roster, KO's always been heavily featured. And with the Universal belt back on Raw, it's only a matter of time before he's back in the mix. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaeBlazer Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Craig H said: I would be tempted to say this was better than Takeover if the show weren't so fucking long and if there weren't so many puzzling decisions. I was almost into Joe vs AJ more than anything on Takeover until the DQ finish. I get the DQ finish, but I think it sucked and it would have just been better to have it lead to AJ losing the title. I also wondered if Joe was gassed. I said this before and I’ll say it again. Logic dictates that AJ’s anger would’ve lead to him losing the title. But the thing is they don’t want him to lose the title. It’s like the Nakamura feud where they didn’t want AJ to lose the title but they wanted to extend it so they kept doing fuck finishes. The fact that they did the DQ here instead of a Joe win confirms that Joe isn’t winning the WWE Title in this feud. AJ will triumph in the Hell in a Cell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 FWIW, the commentary team seemed to be treating it as a Becky heel turn as well. That could change or they had no idea how they should be calling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, FlaeBlazer said: The fact that they did the DQ here instead of a Joe win confirms that Joe isn’t winning the WWE Title in this feud. I'm not understanding the "logic" you're using to inform this statement. I'm not taking a stand one way or the other on whether Joe wins the belt. But I'm curious about how you arrived at such a strong conclusion. Would you mind breaking this down for me? If the idea is that the structure of recent world title feuds is 100% predictive of future behaviour, I don't think I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 hours ago, The Natural said: No more Ziggler vs. Rollins matches please, this was my least favourite. The only Rollins/Ziggler match I ever want to happen again is a title vs. career match where Ziggler loses. And Rollins shoots on him if need be, and beats him in under a minute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If the WWE is going with Charlotte as the face and going to try to play Charlotte being torn by Becky attacking her then they better have Charlotte explain why she didnt in the two weeks between being add to the match and the match happening she never once said to Paige, something like. "I know I won the match against Carmella but its Becky's turn to get her title match, so I don't want to be part of the match, I will get my shot for the title against Becky after she beats Carmella" That changes the everything in one promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 For the first time I got a post PPV survey from WWE asking my thoughts on the PPV. The last question they asked was "What was the biggest surprise moment?" I asked Becky giving Charlotte what she deserved (they phrased it as "Becky brutally attacking Charlotte" whatever) For that question - they showed the results people were voting for. Becky was 2nd Balor as the Demon was the runaway #1. Democracy doesn't work. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 just shows there's still stock in the Demon character. ''Daddy you're bleeding'' was some wonderfully heartbreaking shit, I don't have any kids but AJ seemed genuinely annoyed that he showed vulnerability there. I look forward to Joe beating that line into the ground over the next few weeks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Super Ape said: The only Rollins/Ziggler match I ever want to happen again is a title vs. career match where Ziggler loses. And Rollins shoots on him if need be, and beats him in under a minute. Can they go to a double count out and both retire? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: Can they go to a double count out and both retire? Rollins just needs to embrace Inokiism and sayno to another 30+-minute match. (It would also hide his inability to sell an injured limb worth a damn.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm calling it right now. Ziggler loses his rematch against Rollins tonight. Then, the moment we've been waiting for...Drew McIntyre nearly kicks Ziggler's head off his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I'm calling it right now. Ziggler loses his rematch against Rollins tonight. Then, the moment we've been waiting for...Drew McIntyre nearly kicks Ziggler's head off his body. Not before I get my Ambrose/Rollins vs McIntyre/Ziggler tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I'm calling it right now. Ziggler loses his rematch against Rollins tonight. Then, the moment we've been waiting for...Drew McIntyre nearly kicks Ziggler's head off his body. They announced Ambrose/Ziggler for tonight, of course it likely turns into the above mentioned tag. so no mandatory yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The biggest disappointment last night was that Ambrose and McIntyre didn't end up as a team The 2nd biggest disappointment was that Ambrose and McIntyre didn't fuck 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapRef41N93W Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Oyaji said: The crowd responses to [Daniel Bryan] have been pretty flat compared to the pops he was getting before the forced retirement. I would enjoy seeing him elsewhere. Man, I thought this might have been my imagination last night, or some kind of audio problem. The crowd was still happy to chant "Yes!" at all the right times, but I thought they seemed pretty muted in between. Bryan catches Miz by the throat, and there's no big cheer. Bryan has Miz up for a top-rope hurricanrana, and you can hear a pin drop! Pretty weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yeah, I won't deny that it was a very well put together match but that audience just wanted movez and turnz for the most part. None of Joe/AJ, Bryan/Miz, or Nakamura/Hardy got real emotional investment from the audience. I mean, I can't say I blame them with a 14 hour show but it was noticeably weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said: Man, I thought this might have been my imagination last night, or some kind of audio problem. The crowd was still happy to chant "Yes!" at all the right times, but I thought they seemed pretty muted in between. Bryan catches Miz by the throat, and there's no big cheer. Bryan has Miz up for a top-rope hurricanrana, and you can hear a pin drop! Pretty weird. That's what you get when the face is booked to constantly look like a buffoon. WWE fucked themselves there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said: Man, I thought this might have been my imagination last night, or some kind of audio problem. The crowd was still happy to chant "Yes!" at all the right times, but I thought they seemed pretty muted in between. Bryan catches Miz by the throat, and there's no big cheer. Bryan has Miz up for a top-rope hurricanrana, and you can hear a pin drop! Pretty weird. Yeah, I won't deny that it was a very well put together match but that audience just wanted movez and turnz for the most part. None of Joe/AJ, Bryan/Miz, or Nakamura/Hardy got real emotional investment from the audience. I mean, I can't say I blame them with a 14 hour show but it was noticeably weak. Miz/Bryan is a match type that relies on big crowd responses and they didn't get them. They weren't going to do a bunch of crazy move sequences or strike exchanges. They were telling a story of Bryan finally getting his hands on the Miz in the ring, escaping the nise variations of his moves and then applying them with gusto on the cowardly heel. Oh and punching his mouth shut (with the TWIST OF IRONY in the end). I don't think it was just last night though. They've saddled him with some really average-to-bad shit since his return and I doubt it'll get better once he commits his long term future to the company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 A bunch of people at Summerslam tweeted about how tired the crowd was by the time Miz/Bryan came around. Also, there's a lot of folks here asserting the absurd idea that Rollins is somehow more entertaining than Ziggler. Asinine. Hopefully Ambrose drops Rollins on his head soon. And I don't think it's smart to split up Ziggler and McIntyre when the Raw tag team scene is a bit desolate with no one but sawed off Brainbuster cosplayers to challenge the "B-Team." EDIT: And the Authors of Pain. I forgot them. But, the writing team has, too, so I'm not alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, just drew said: A bunch of people at Summerslam tweeted about how tired the crowd was by the time Miz/Bryan came around. Also, there's a lot of folks here asserting the absurd idea that Rollins is somehow more entertaining than Ziggler. Asinine. Hopefully Ambrose drops Rollins on his head soon. And I don't think it's smart to split up Ziggler and McIntyre when the Raw tag team scene is a bit desolate with no one but sawed off Brainbuster cosplayers to challenge the "B-Team." EDIT: And the Authors of Pain. I forgot them. But, the writing team has, too, so I'm not alone... You mean Blonde Seth Rollins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: You mean Blonde Seth Rollins? Nah, but I could've meant Ziggler and crossfit Ziggler... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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