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Nominations announced tomorrow.  Expect La La Land to do well and on the night itself.

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If La La Land beats Moana for best song, heads are rolling.

 

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Would Moana songs split the vote on that?

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Rooting for a Moonlight upset for Best Picture, and a correction of that Aaron Taylor-Johnson nonsense from the Golden Globes.

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I do like Emma Stone having seen her in Superbad (only good thing from it), Zombieland, Easy A and the Amazing Spider-Man films.

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30 minutes ago, The Natural said:

I do like Emma Stone having seen her in Superbad (only good thing from it), Zombieland, Easy A and the Amazing Spider-Man films.

She should have won the Oscar for Birdman.  Arquette was really good in Boyhood, but not as good as Stone.

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If the snubbing of Denzel for Best Director continues, I am going to set something on fire.

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I haven't had a chance to see Fences, but what I've heard it's the directing is pretty undistinguished, not much above just kinda shooting the play. That seems to be the review consensus

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Just now, Brian Fowler said:

I haven't had a chance to see Fences, but what I've heard it's the directing is pretty undistinguished.

It is very inspired given the dearth of Denzel's directing credits and the self-directing is what really stands out, IMO.

I think he did an excellent job, but lots of really good stuff game out last year.

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Fences was...technically competent, at best...I guess.  

Viola Davis pretty much phoned in her performance and didn't really try to evolve from beyond the 2010 stage revival she starred in (and I was lucky enough to attend), Saniyya Sidney was pretty wooden, Jovan Adepo was okay in a one-dimensional "angry black teenager" role.

Shot selection and staging were decent, but nothing ground breaking.  I question Denzel's choice of camera filters but that falls as much on the cinematographer as Denzel.

 

Hardly a "Best Director" worthy film, certainly nowhere near Dances With Wolves or Braveheart in terms of actors directing themselves.

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PHILISTINES~!!

Seriously, though I can understand the finer criticisms even though I'd probably swap out Mel Gibson for Denzel.  Hacksaw Ridge just feels like the more obvious Oscar bait and because I think that Mel is batshit insane.

That being said,  either Bary Jenkins or Kenneth Lonergan would be my choice for Best Director.  La La Land (Damien Chazelle) was charming but it didn't move me as much as Moonlight did and Manchester By The Sea was otherwordly.

I still haven't seen Nocturnal Animals yet and knowing my questionable tastes, I'll gravitate towards the new John Wick joint or the final and gloriously horrible Resident Evil movie before I go see Nocturnal Animals.

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7 hours ago, J.T. said:

If the snubbing of Denzel for Best Director continues, I am going to set something on fire.

Uh oh.

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The 2017 Oscar Nominations

Best Picture

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Manchester by the Sea

Moonlight

 

Best Director

Denis Villeneuve, Arrival

Mel Gibson, Hacksaw Ridge

Damien Chazelle, La La Land

Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea

Barry Jenkins, Moonlight

 

Best Actor

Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea

Andrew Garfield, Hacksaw Ridge

Ryan Gosling, La La Land

Viggo Mortensen, Captain Fantastic

Denzel Washington, Fences

 

Best Actress

Isabelle Huppert, Elle

Ruth Negga, Loving

Natalie Portman, Jackie

Emma Stone, La La Land

Meryl Streep, Florence Foster Jenkins

 

Best Supporting Actor

Mahershala Ali, Moonlight

Jeff Bridges, Hell or High Water

Lucas Hedges, Manchester by the Sea

Dev Patel, Lion

Michael Shannon, Nocturnal Animals

 

Best Supporting Actress

Viola Davis, Fences

Naomie Harris, Moonlight

Nicole Kidman, Lion

Octavia Spencer, Hidden Figures

Michelle Williams, Manchester by the Sea

 

Best Original Screenplay

Taylor Sheridan, Hell or High Water

Damien Chazelle, La La Land

Yorgos Lanthimos and Efthymis Filippou, The Lobster

Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea

Mike Mills, 20th Century Women

 

Best Adapted Screenplay

Eric Heisserer, Arrival

August Wilson, Fences

Allison Schroeder and Theodore Melfi, Hidden Figures

Luke Davies, Lion

Barry Jenkins and Tarell Alvin McRaney, Moonlight

 

Best Film Editing 

Arrival

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

La La Land

Moonlight

 

Best Cinematography 

Arrival

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Silence

 

Best Production Design

Arrival

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Hail, Caeasar!

La La Land

Passengers

 

Best Costume Design

Allied

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Florence Floster Jenkins

Jackie

La La Land

 

Best Make-up and Hairstyling

A Man Called Ove

Star Trek Beyond

Suicide Squad

 

Best Original Score

Jackie

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Passengers

 

Best Original Song

Audition, La La Land

Can’t Stop the Feeling, Trolls

City of Stars, La La Land

The Empty Chair, Jim: The James Foley Story

How Far I’ll Go, Moana

 

Best Visual Effects

Deepwater Horizon

Doctor Strange

The Jungle Book

Kubo and the Two Strings

Rogue One

 

Best Sound Editing

Arrival

Deepwater Horizon

Deepwater Horizon

La La Land

Sully

 

Best Sound Mixing

Arrival

Hacksaw Ridge

La La Land

Rogue One

13 Hours

 

Best Foreign Language Film

Land of Mine

A Man Called Ove

The Salesman

Tanna

Toni Erdmann

 

Best Documentary Feature

Fire at Sea

I Am Not Your Negro

Life Animated

OJ: Made in America

13th

 

Best Documentary Short

Extremis

4.1 Miles

Joe’s Violin

Watani: My Homeland

The White Helmets

 

Best Animated Feature

Kubo and the Two Strings

Moana

My Life as a Zucchini

The Red Turtle

Zootopia

 

Best Animated Short

Blind Vaysha

Borrowed Time

Pear Cider and Cigarettes

Pearl

Piper

 

Best Live-Action Short

Ennemis Interieurs

La Femme et le TGV

Silent Nights

Sing

Timecode

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I'm not seeing any major surprises there.  Guess the most unexpected things are Mel Gibson apparently back in the fold with a Best Director nomination, and Annette Bening not being nominated for Best Actress (there was a question of whether Isabelle Huppert would get in, since Elle didn't make the Best Foreign Film shortlist).

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1 minute ago, S.K.o.S. said:

I'm not seeing any major surprises there.  Guess the most unexpected things are Mel Gibson apparently back in the fold with a Best Director nomination, and Annette Bening not being nominated for Best Actress.

Finding Dory not being nominated for Best Animated Feature?

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Oh yeah... I guess My Life as a Zucchini is the party crasher in that category.  But it was on the Best Foreign Film shortlist, so it's not out of nowhere.

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And the Trolls nomination is solely so Justin Timberlake can be on the show

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5 minutes ago, The Z said:

Finding Dory not being nominated for Best Animated Feature?

Wasn't nominated for a Golden Globe either.
Really, it just wasn't that good so I'm not surprised at the snubs.

I think The Red Turtle nominated over Sing or The Little Prince is the upset here.

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There was a lot of momentum for DEADPOOL getting a Best Picture nom over the last month or so, but it didn't pan out. Which is disappointing.  It's so weird that the Academy expanded that field so it could include well-received populist movies like THE DARK KNIGHT, but now they still don't nominate them.

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Looking over it again... I don't think anyone was expecting Passengers to get multiple nominations.  And I'd never heard of this "Jim: The James Foley Story" that got a Best Song nomination.  Best Song coming from a documentary, that can't have happened very often.

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20 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

And the Trolls nomination is solely so Justin Timberlake can be on the show

...and, while I think it deserves the nomination, I kinda feel that it's the same with "Audition".
I'm sure there was an extra push within The Academy since it would involve Emma Stone singing on the show.
The other nominated song (and shoe-in) "City of Stars" is not much of a showcase for her.

But I'm happy because I think it's a far superior song from the film.

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*hands @J.T. some rags and a can of gasoline*

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19 hours ago, mattdangerously said:

She should have won the Oscar for Birdman.  Arquette was really good in Boyhood, but not as good as Stone.

I forgot I'd seen Emma Stone in Birdman. Thanks for reminding me.

38 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

I'm not seeing any major surprises there.  Guess the most unexpected things are Mel Gibson apparently back in the fold with a Best Director nomination, and Annette Bening not being nominated for Best Actress (there was a question of whether Isabelle Huppert would get in, since Elle didn't make the Best Foreign Film shortlist).

Amy Adams missing out for Arrival and Nocturnal Animals is a major surprise. Split votes cost her.

18 minutes ago, EVA said:

There was a lot of momentum for DEADPOOL getting a Best Picture nom over the last month or so, but it didn't pan out. Which is disappointing.  It's so weird that the Academy expanded that field so it could include well-received populist movies like THE DATK KNIGHTS, but now they still don't nominate them.

I'll forever say the following, The Dark Knight was fucking robbed and the Academy really shit the bed with nominations/winners.

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3 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Amy Adams missing out for Arrival and Nocturnal Animals is a major surprise. Split votes cost her.

I guess Meryl Streep just has to get nominated on principle.

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8 minutes ago, The Z said:

I guess Meryl Streep just has to get nominated on principle.

A chant by wrestling fans, overrated. I'm not using the President Trump association ; ).

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