Burgundy LaRue Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Using the Nick Saban/Alabama model: if Harbaugh is given full control of the football department and factoring in Michigan's academic standards + cold climate--I'd say he'll be average in 2015, with things looking way up in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 He also turned around San Diego pretty much instantly. And San Francisco, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think the thinking is that his family REALLY likes Cali. Harbaugh is a professional football coach. Let's not pretend he has a happy marriage to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Not to mention he's quite possibly certifiably insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is Rivera's fourth season. I actually completely disagree with you, I don't particularly see any reason to stay with any of their coaching staff. Too many bad calls. The problems with the Panthers are with the GM- they don't have the players they should. Not enough talent on that team- largely due to a bunch of bad salary cap decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Not to mention he's quite possibly certifiably insane. I thought that was a pre-req for a Head Football Coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hoke consistently brought in top ten or fifteen classes. I think espn had them third a couple years ago. Talent is not the issue. Brady Hoke must be a legendary moron to do as poorly as he did this year then. Wow. And Harbaugh is coming in with some high expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Not to mention he's quite possibly certifiably insane. I thought that was a pre-req for a Head Football Coach. I mean by football coach standards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I would think it's slightly easier to get away with being a crazy coach in college because even if some of your players hate you, you've got that guarantee they're gone in 4 years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Exactly. Driven coaches don't burn players out in college. 19 year old kids respond better to that kind of thing than 30 year old adult men as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is Rivera's fourth season. I actually completely disagree with you, I don't particularly see any reason to stay with any of their coaching staff. Too many bad calls. The problems with the Panthers are with the GM- they don't have the players they should. Not enough talent on that team- largely due to a bunch of bad salary cap decisions. The problems aren't with the current GM. Gettleman can draft his butt off and he's worked a minor miracle with the terrible cap situation he inherited. We have five starters from the last draft that start for Carolina currently. The previous GM is the one who left us in this mess that Carolina will still be in for another year or two. Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. The problems that people have with Rivera is that he's too conservative, he's bad at challenging plays, he sticks with the vets too long, and he's terrible at clock management. That said, I'm indifferent if he stays or goes. The actual problem is with the offensive coordinator. The play calling from Shula is atrocious and no matter what happens today I want to see him gone next year. He was able to win last year because our free agent 1 year deals were great and this years 1 year free agents are terrible in comparison. Finally, when we have a turnstile for a LT, you're not going to have a good go of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hoke consistently brought in top ten or fifteen classes. I think espn had them third a couple years ago. Talent is not the issue. Brady Hoke must be a legendary moron to do as poorly as he did this year then. Wow. He was terrible at either evaluating or developing skill position players. Literally, the only difference maker he brought in his whole time there was the TE/WR Funchess. Everybody else has been a dud, serviceable player at best. They have no dynamic athletes on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Of course, they could have had a pretty solid #1 and #2 WR, but I guess we can't knock Gettleman for wanting to pay Steve Smith to play for the Ravens... I don't think anyone on staff for Carolina is above reproach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Tampa Bay officially has the #1 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 The Skins are the gift that keeps on giving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So the Titanics are number 2 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 So the Titanics are number 2 then? Correct I think the Jags are assured of the third pick but I am not 100% positive (mainly due to the SOS tiebreakers cant be determined until the games are done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Of course, they could have had a pretty solid #1 and #2 WR, but I guess we can't knock Gettleman for wanting to pay Steve Smith to play for the Ravens... I don't think anyone on staff for Carolina is above reproach. Pay them with what? http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers/ $26.8 million in dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Of course, they could have had a pretty solid #1 and #2 WR, but I guess we can't knock Gettleman for wanting to pay Steve Smith to play for the Ravens... I don't think anyone on staff for Carolina is above reproach. Pay them with what? http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers/ $26.8 million in dead money. $5,000,000 to Steve Smith. Who is playing for Baltimore. Who didn't save them a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Of course, they could have had a pretty solid #1 and #2 WR, but I guess we can't knock Gettleman for wanting to pay Steve Smith to play for the Ravens... I don't think anyone on staff for Carolina is above reproach. Pay them with what? http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers/ $26.8 million in dead money. $5,000,000 to Steve Smith. Who is playing for Baltimore. Who didn't save them a dime. IIRC, he was a cap hit because of all of the other bad decisions by the previous GM. They had to make some tough choices to fill out their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Rivera is not on the hot seat at all, even with a loss today. Only year 2, and he had .500 talent at best this year, 7-8-1 or 6-9-1 isn't a disaster. Panthers FO is a mess, but even they're not dumb enough to fire a fairly popular coach in year 2. He had no cap room and no WR's this season. Not sure how anyone can fault that. Of course, they could have had a pretty solid #1 and #2 WR, but I guess we can't knock Gettleman for wanting to pay Steve Smith to play for the Ravens... I don't think anyone on staff for Carolina is above reproach. Pay them with what? http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers/ $26.8 million in dead money. $5,000,000 to Steve Smith. Who is playing for Baltimore. Who didn't save them a dime. Smith will earn $7 million in 2014, $7 million in 2015, and $9 million in 2016 under his current contract structure. Those numbers are unsustainable at his age. http://overthecap.com/steve-smiths-contract-situation-carolina-panthers/ So it saved $2 million this year, $3 million next year, and $9 million in 2016. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/steve-smith/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 For 2015, I need a linebacker who can cover a run or a very mean offensive lineman whose name rhymes with "Spincognito". In spirit. Well, without the homophobic bullying. ... Or with it, if he can FUCKING PROTECT MY QUARTERBACK. God damned stupid fucking Dolphins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Given the injuries and how badly we played against the top teams I am not upset at the Eagles season. 10 wins is good with a bad secondary. For the offseason please bring be a new secondary and some Oline guys to help replace some of our aging starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Not disappointed with the Vikings' season overall. Teddy Bridgewater was pretty great over the last 5-6 weeks of the season, and hey. . .if anyone would have said that the Vikings would be without Adrian Peterson for 15 of their 16 games, I'm guessing nobody would have put them on 7 wins. Or even close to it. In Week 1, the team's three most prolific offensive players were Matt Cassel, Adrian Peterson, and Cordarrelle Patterson. None of them had anything to do with the offense in Week 17 (unless you count Patterson deflecting an interception into a defender's hands). And the defense shaved about 8.6 points/game from last season to this season. Thank you, Mike Zimmer. Going to be an interesting off-season, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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