Tabe Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 One guy has come out and said the reason he didn't vote for Pedro is that he lost his ballot and forgot to vote but...wouldn't have voted for him anyway because he was a "punk" who dominated the Cleveland Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well SOMEONE had to out-dumb Schilling's "I didn't get voted in by a bunch of stuffy old white dudes because I am a Republican" comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Also - Schilling in his diatribe said that Smoltz got in because he was a Democrat And John Smoltz is most certainly not a Dem God do I hate that special little wackado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Aww, poor albino goober. I assume he has no clue that the vast majority of all athletes are Republican. God if hating Schilling is wrong, I don't want to be right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 One guy has come out and said the reason he didn't vote for Pedro is that he lost his ballot and forgot to vote but...wouldn't have voted for him anyway because he was a "punk" who dominated the Cleveland Indians. The fact that this person had a ballot in the first place, and the Hall of Fame doesn't do like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and open one ballot to fan voting (top ten vote-getters OR anyone who gets more than 75% of the fan ballot get on the fans' ballot, whichever is higher) is living proof the HOF is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Sooo...Anyone remember Bill James' The Politics of Glory? Vaguely here, too. Anyhoo...in it James made predictions for the HOF classes through 2019. Anyway, it was written in 1994 and hindsight being 20/20 and all but...this is not pretty. 1995 — Mike Schmidt, Jim Rice1996 — Don Sutton, Pete Rose1997 — Steve Garvey, Phil Niekro1998 — Gary Carter, Al Oliver1999 — Nolan Ryan, George Brett2000 — Robin Yount, Carlton Fisk2001 — Andre Dawson, Dave Winfield2002 — Eddie Murray, Ozzie Smith2003 — Dave Parker, Jim Kaat2004 — Dennis Eckersley, Ted Simmons2005 — Wade Boggs, Cal Ripken Jr.2006 — Rickey Henderson, Paul Molitor2007 — Tony Gwynn, Roger Clemens2008 — Kirby Puckett, Dale Murphy2009 — Jack Morris, Lee Smith2010 — Tim Raines, Ryne Sandberg2011 — Barry Bonds, Joe Carter2012 — Brett Butler, David Cone2013 — Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker2014 — Goose Gossage, Don Mattingly2015 — Jack McDowell, Greg Maddux2016 — Fred McGriff, Dwight Gooden2017 — Frank Thomas, Ruben Sierra2018 — Ken Griffey Jr., Roberto Alomar2019 — Jeff Bagwell, Juan Gonzalez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Aww, poor albino goober. I assume he has no clue that the vast majority of all athletes are Republican. God if hating Schilling is wrong, I don't want to be right. In a roundabout way, he might be sort of right. Except he didn't lose votes for being Republican. He lost votes for being a Republican jerk. But he didn't lose enough to keep him out, that much I'm sure of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 No Bonds, no point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Sooo...Anyone remember Bill James' The Politics of Glory? Vaguely here, too. Anyhoo...in it James made predictions for the HOF classes through 2019. Anyway, it was written in 1994 and hindsight being 20/20 and all but...this is not pretty. What's wrong with it? 7/10 for the first 5 years, with one of the 3 he missed on being Pete Rose. 7/10 for the second 5 years. 6/10 for years 11-15. It falls off after that, but that's hardly an indictment given he's now projecting from very limited data on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 And two of those 'misses' are guys who if you remove Roids would easly be in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Brett Butler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, I was talking more about the Butler, Joe Carter, Steve Garvey and Al Oliver picks more than anything. As Rippa and I were going through the list we giggled at the horrible picks we would have had in 94 if we were making a list like that. Then again, we are not Bill James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Also - Schilling in his diatribe said that Smoltz got in because he was a Democrat And John Smoltz is most certainly not a Dem God do I hate that special little wackado Here's that liberal pinko Smoltz's political contributions for the curious. And then there's this. In 2004 Braves pitcher John Smoltz, criticizing the possible legalization of gay marriage, told an Associated Press reporter, “What’s next, marrying an animal?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The worst part, to me, is I think he's a solid candidate, largely because of the post season success. But he makes Bonds seem lovable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Also - Schilling in his diatribe said that Smoltz got in because he was a Democrat And John Smoltz is most certainly not a Dem God do I hate that special little wackado Here's that liberal pinko Smoltz's political contributions for the curious. And then there's this. In 2004 Braves pitcher John Smoltz, criticizing the possible legalization of gay marriage, told an Associated Press reporter, “What’s next, marrying an animal?” After a comment like that, Smoltz should have never been allowed to speak about anything not related to baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, I was talking more about the Butler, Joe Carter, Steve Garvey and Al Oliver picks more than anything. As Rippa and I were going through the list we giggled at the horrible picks we would have had in 94 if we were making a list like that. Then again, we are not Bill James. And Jack Mcdowell. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Sorry, Mariner fans. Randy Johnson is going into the HOF with a D-Backs hat. Hey, at least you all get Griffey Jr next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Sorry, Mariner fans. Randy Johnson is going into the HOF with a D-Backs hat. Hey, at least you all get Griffey Jr next year. That's fair. He won a title there, threw a perfect game there and didn't intentionally tank half a season there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Sorry, Mariner fans. Randy Johnson is going into the HOF with a D-Backs hat. Hey, at least you all get Griffey Jr next year. That's fair. He won a title there, threw a perfect game there and didn't intentionally tank half a season there. He did play a bunch of years in Cincy, even if he was injured half the time and relatively(for him) pretty shitty the rest of the time. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireThunder Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Edit: wrong thread. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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