goc Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 As far as the Seattle coaches not figuring out how to use the guy properly- you shouldn't have to spend hours of your day trying to figure out how to use a receiver you're paying $25mil to. The guy can't run a route, plain and simple. They recognized their mistake and unloaded that contract on the Jets. This. I don't think the offensive coordinators for guys like Calvin Johnson or AJ Green have to do a whole lot of scheming for those guys. If you can only be productive in tricky schemed up plays then you aren't a guy worth the draft picks or the money that Seattle gave up for Harvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 On the other hand, the first Sunday in February 2014 makes a mighty strong argument in his favor. The fact that the score was already 22-0 when he had his big breakout moment of the game makes the argument that he made one meaningless albeit flashy play in a game that was going to be a Seahawks blowout regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 In all honesty, I forgot who the Seahawks beat in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 In all honesty, I forgot who the Seahawks beat in the Super Bowl. Peyton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I see. I know Peyton statistically is one if all time great QBs, but he one of the most annoying to me. I just think if the 2003 pro bowl and how he blamed the kicker for losing the last game of the season for the Colts. Plus his accent really makes me think of some racist in Alabama circa 1960 yelling a bunch of you know what's. Like he wants people to think he is likable and funny, but he would really throw out of a party for setting in his chair or some stupid shit. And I love southern accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I remember Percy Harvin doing quite well at Florida. Of course, I remember that. They wouldn't have won the championship without his performance. Lynch is sad to see him go. He tweeted about it. Irvin also tweeted about it. It seems that the only one who didn't like him is their game managing QB. Well, lets see how that Seattle offense looks the rest of the season. Russ is part of the problem. When's the last time he hit someone downfield for a big completion? He's timid anything beyond ten yards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Russell Wilson's best attribute is his cap hit. Aside from that, and that's huge, you'd have to be on drugs to take him over any of the big young QBs of this era; if you put Cam Newton or Andrew Luck on this exact Seattle team it would be a top 5 offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I remember Percy Harvin doing quite well at Florida. Of course, I remember that. They wouldn't have won the championship without his performance. Lynch is sad to see him go. He tweeted about it. Irvin also tweeted about it. It seems that the only one who didn't like him is their game managing QB. Well, lets see how that Seattle offense looks the rest of the season. Russ is part of the problem. When's the last time he hit someone downfield for a big completion? He's timid anything beyond ten yards.. You could always watch replays of games from last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 You mean where they also had Golden Tate? Now they have nobody. Baldwin is ok. We'll see what Richardson does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The black eye he gave Golden Tate says something too. Harvin is such a dick that he cut in front of the "punch Tate in the face" line. I read that as Harvin is such a dick that he cut in front of the "punch Tabe in the face" line and was insanely confused. Tabe is a nice guy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The black eye he gave Golden Tate says something too. Harvin is such a dick that he cut in front of the "punch Tate in the face" line. I read that as Harvin is such a dick that he cut in front of the "punch Tabe in the face" line and was insanely confused. Tabe is a nice guy! Hahahaha. Thanks for the laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I remember Percy Harvin doing quite well at Florida. Of course, I remember that. They wouldn't have won the championship without his performance. Lynch is sad to see him go. He tweeted about it. Irvin also tweeted about it. It seems that the only one who didn't like him is their game managing QB. Well, lets see how that Seattle offense looks the rest of the season. Russ is part of the problem. When's the last time he hit someone downfield for a big completion? He's timid anything beyond ten yards.. No it doesn't seem that way. The majority of coaches and players everywhere the guy has been have disliked him. The majority of fans who have met the guy dislike him. Apparently two guys like him. And you for some reason. Or is that just a strong dislike of Wilson and the Seahawks shining through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I remember Percy Harvin doing quite well at Florida. Of course, I remember that. They wouldn't have won the championship without his performance. Lynch is sad to see him go. He tweeted about it. Irvin also tweeted about it. It's cliche to say this now, but I'm still going to need a 30 for 30 documentary on this Florida Gators team one day. Cooper, Hernandez, and Harvin with Tebow/Urban Meyer leading the way? There are secrets buried in there somewhere. I think Cam was on it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I say someone should give Tebow truth serum so we'll know once and for all where are the bodies buried regarding that time in Florida football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I remember Percy Harvin doing quite well at Florida. Of course, I remember that. They wouldn't have won the championship without his performance. Lynch is sad to see him go. He tweeted about it. Irvin also tweeted about it. It seems that the only one who didn't like him is their game managing QB. Well, lets see how that Seattle offense looks the rest of the season. Russ is part of the problem. When's the last time he hit someone downfield for a big completion? He's timid anything beyond ten yards.. No it doesn't seem that way. The majority of coaches and players everywhere the guy has been have disliked him. The majority of fans who have met the guy dislike him. Apparently two guys like him. And you for some reason. Or is that just a strong dislike of Wilson and the Seahawks shining through? Nah, it's not all Seattle hate. I'm a Florida football fan also so I've been following Harvin for a long time and I get that he's not exactly a great guy but he was the one playmaker on that receiver corps. It should have worked. I think Wilson is a little overrated. He hasn't been asked to do much. Last week he needed to do a lot more than he gave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah I'm not going to argue that Wilson is overrated but he seems to have the tools, I think he will get there. Harvin is only a once in a while playmaker though. He's not a good enough fundamental receiver to really make a lasting impact for an offense or be consistent enough for a quarterback to lean on. Of course a guy with his abilities is a great tool to have on your team, just not being paid as a number one receiver. And not at the expense of cohesion in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think this move makes more sense if they still have Tate. No Tate or Harvin is asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJay Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Harvin reminds me of a former Bengal and Seminole, Peter Warrick. Though I think Warrick was better, Harvin if he put it all together(ie. better route running, etc.) could be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think it makes sense as a buisness(money) move. Cutting your losses and unloading that contract is a pretty big deal. Not going to disagree on their need for a good receiver though because they do need one. I don't happen to think Harvin is that guy though. So now the Jets, a team that has likely already completely shot themselves in the foot as far as hopes for a playoff spot this season, is going to be saddled with that contract and Harvin's attitude in the locker room, and are going to have to go to the drawing board to come up with gimmick plays for the guy. And they have such a great history of coming up with gimmick plays for limited ability players (Tebow, Vick). They should have been content with their room under the cap and chalked this season up as a loss and used it to further develop Geno Smith and taken that checkbook into the offseason to improve their offense. I think Harvin would be a good fit for a place with strong people in charge and where he could fill a role. Maybe New England? The Giants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJay Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah, NE would be a really good fit since they find roles for people and utilize their strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Pittsburgh has always done a great job with guys who could do multiple things. Randle El. I can see where Seattle is coming from with the money issue but I'm not sure how big their window is. Maybe they'll be New England and stick around for a decade in contention but probably not. They have a lot of guys who need to be paid. I think it's risky to trade Harvin away and be left with a bunch of question marks. Seattle was looking like the favorite. Right now, I don't know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 IIRC, the guaranteed portion of Harvin's contract runs until next off-season. If that's the case,the Jets can cut him easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah, NE would be a really good fit since they find roles for people and utilize their strengths. They're hit and miss with outcast receivers though. Randy Moss (Yay!) and Chad Johnson (Nah!) are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in their time at New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah, NE would be a really good fit since they find roles for people and utilize their strengths. They're hit and miss with outcast receivers though. Randy Moss (Yay!) and Chad Johnson (Nah!) are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in their time at New England. Well Randy had a lot more left in the tank than johnson. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I hope Dom Capers has spent the whole week trying to figure out how to stop Cam from running the ball. Odds are he probably hasn't but I can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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