lovchunky Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Watching Clash of the Champions V: Does the opening bout between the Midnights and the Russian Assassins have a finish? It seems to just go to commercial break. Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Catching up on WM Rewind show watching the Cena vs HBK one from Detroit. Had no idea that the original plan for the match was Cena vs Triple H rematch from last year. Good thing that didn't happen because I can't think that would have been a good rematch. It wasn't like last year's main event was that great plus we were in the middle of the goofy Triple H babyface era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though? I really like the show and always rated Chris Jericho vs. The Rock. My 2001 Match of the Year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Catching up on WM Rewind show watching the Cena vs HBK one from Detroit. Had no idea that the original plan for the match was Cena vs Triple H rematch from last year. Good thing that didn't happen because I can't think that would have been a good rematch. It wasn't like last year's main event was that great plus we were in the middle of the goofy Triple H babyface era Actually the rematches between Cena and HHH later on were fairly good as Cena got much better in the latter half of 06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The WM 22 match was good, and the crowd was crazy into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though? Was that the show with Austin/Angle/RVD in the main? If so, I remember flipping back and fourth between that and the Yankees/Diamondbacks World Series Game 6 and being very disappointed when RVD didn't win the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though? I really like the show and always rated Chris Jericho vs. The Rock. My 2001 Match of the Year. Havent seen this Match since after it happened, how does the Royal Rumble match that followed match up to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's not as good as the career best for both guys at No Mercy, but it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though?Was that the show with Austin/Angle/RVD in the main? If so, I remember flipping back and fourth between that and the Yankees/Diamondbacks World Series Game 6 and being very disappointed when RVD didn't win the title. Yeah same show. Angle was in German Suplex overdose in that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 What is the deal with the unskippable warnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 To let you know that the wrestlers, who are real, may say or do things that, while they are real, they are not real in sense that they did not *really* happen to their *real* opponent which is all predetermined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I just hit the live stream in the middle of a Clash 18 match between the Steiners and Vader/Mr. Hughes. In about five minutes, I saw: Vader hit a nasty powerslam on Scott. Rick hit a second-rope belly-to-belly on Vader Scott hit a back suplex on Vader Mr. Hughes's feet nearly hitting the lights on what is the greatest back bodydrop I have ever seen in my life from Rick Steiner I was planning on watching something else, but this was just amazing, even by the standards of '92-'95 WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Who thought it was a good idea to have Mabel win the '95 KOTR and not Shawn Michaels? Did they figure Michaels didn't need the rub as he was obviously the next torchbearer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Who thought it was a good idea to have Mabel win the '95 KOTR and not Shawn Michaels? Did they figure Michaels didn't need the rub as he was obviously the next torchbearer? I'm guessing they wanted to build a challenger for Diesel. There was a severe dearth of main event heels at that time. I'm thinking about the time period, and I'm not sure who would have been a good choice. The feud with Sid was played out. Owen Hart might have been the most over heel that made sense in that role, which is not inspiring (and I love Owen Hart). There was Jeff Jarrett, but he was still firmly in the midcard. They ended up turning Bulldog a couple of months too late, but in retrospect, they probably should have done it earlier so he could feud with Diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Who thought it was a good idea to have Mabel win the '95 KOTR and not Shawn Michaels? Did they figure Michaels didn't need the rub as he was obviously the next torchbearer? I'm guessing they wanted to build a challenger for Diesel. There was a severe dearth of main event heels at that time. I'm thinking about the time period, and I'm not sure who would have been a good choice. The feud with Sid was played out. Owen Hart might have been the most over heel that made sense in that role, which is not inspiring (and I love Owen Hart). There was Jeff Jarrett, but he was still firmly in the midcard. They ended up turning Bulldog a couple of months too late, but in retrospect, they probably should have done it earlier so he could feud with Diesel. Makes sense, he did face Diesel two months later at SS (almost breaking his back). It just seems so out of place. Maybe not Billy Gunn out of place, but still.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Just watched No Mercy 2001. OK show but man Rock/Jericho was really good. Probably my one of my favorite Jericho WWF matches. He was on point and didn't botch anything. Also enjoyed the Hardys/Storm Hurricane opener. It was funny that the most over person in the match was Lita. I don't remember Ivory in the Alliance though? I really like the show and always rated Chris Jericho vs. The Rock. My 2001 Match of the Year. Havent seen this Match since after it happened, how does the Royal Rumble match that followed match up to this? It's not as good as the career best for both guys at No Mercy, but it's good. I'm with, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 https://network.wwe.com/video/v33482631 Smackdown: Episode 49 WWE Champion The Rock is given a shot for revenge on Kurt Angle. Big Show reveals his true colors. Plus, Chris Jericho, Tazz, and many more. :lol @ HHH and Trish backstage situation. Trish was looking good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Who thought it was a good idea to have Mabel win the '95 KOTR and not Shawn Michaels? Did they figure Michaels didn't need the rub as he was obviously the next torchbearer? I'm guessing they wanted to build a challenger for Diesel. There was a severe dearth of main event heels at that time. I'm thinking about the time period, and I'm not sure who would have been a good choice. The feud with Sid was played out. Owen Hart might have been the most over heel that made sense in that role, which is not inspiring (and I love Owen Hart). There was Jeff Jarrett, but he was still firmly in the midcard. They ended up turning Bulldog a couple of months too late, but in retrospect, they probably should have done it earlier so he could feud with Diesel. Makes sense, he did face Diesel two months later at SS (almost breaking his back). It just seems so out of place. Maybe not Billy Gunn out of place, but still.... It definitely feels forced. It's right after the MOM heel turn where they beat up Oscar, I'm pretty sure, so it felt like a fast-track at the time for me, even as a kid. In retrospect, they had two options that were probably better. First, build up Yokozuna again as a threat. It had only been a year or so since he was champ. On the other hand, he was putting on weight and falling out of favor. Second, turn one of the many faces they had that would slot into that spot: Razor, Bret, HBK, Taker, or Bulldog. HBK had just turned face and Razor, Taker, and Bret were still fresh as faces. I do think turning Bulldog earlier was probably the right move as I earlier mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Turning Bulldog was anything but the right move considering the two shows he headlined as a heel were at the time the lowest PPV buyrates in WWF history, not to mention his heel turn doing nothing for the ratings. The right move may have just been to turn Diesel heel considering the only real threats to his title were all faces, and his title reign at that point was clearly a bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I definitely would have taken the belt off of Nash sooner. Having him as champion for a whole year was a bad idea. Probably should have put it back on Bret sooner, building to Wrestlemania 12 with Shawn. Money couldn't have been worse I don't think. I'm sorta going through '94-'95 and almost nothing from Diesel works for me. I haven't watched any of the Raws though, so maybe I'm missing something. The Bret match at the Rumble is just mediocre and certainly overbooked. They should have at least made Diesel look strong on his first PPV as champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Who thought it was a good idea to have Mabel win the '95 KOTR and not Shawn Michaels? Did they figure Michaels didn't need the rub as he was obviously the next torchbearer? I'm guessing they wanted to build a challenger for Diesel. There was a severe dearth of main event heels at that time. I'm thinking about the time period, and I'm not sure who would have been a good choice. The feud with Sid was played out. Owen Hart might have been the most over heel that made sense in that role, which is not inspiring (and I love Owen Hart). There was Jeff Jarrett, but he was still firmly in the midcard. They ended up turning Bulldog a couple of months too late, but in retrospect, they probably should have done it earlier so he could feud with Diesel. I still think they should have turned Razor and had him take over the Million Dollar Corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMEK Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm looking to work my way through the WCCW shows they have up. Are there any I MUST see or should I just start at the first that is available and follow it as chronologically as possible? Anything in particular to be aware of? I've seen the WWE doc on WCCW and a few of the bigger matches here and there but that's my main exposure to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 From Mike Johnson: WWE will add Saturday Night's Main Event specials to the WWE Network this coming Monday. The old NBC and FOX specials will be added to the Vault section as well as air on the Network's programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac_Fu Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Man..I can't wait for them to be able let us watch the previous Raw for those of us who missed it and don't have the benefit of DVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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