MONEY IN THE BANK XV - 7/6/2024

[stuntmanc]

I'm shocked McIntyre can stand up straight the way he's carrying the Punk feud.

[The Natural]

Just now, StuntmanCrowley said:

I'm shocked McIntyre can stand up straight the way he's carrying the Punk feud.

Drew McIntyre is doing his best work ever.

[stuntmanc]

1 minute ago, The Natural said:

Drew McIntyre is doing his best work ever.

Couldn;t agree more.  My comment wasn't even a dig at Punk, i don't think anyone in WWE is on Drew's level right now and i think he's surpassed both Rollins and Punk at this moment

[The Natural]

9 minutes ago, StuntmanCrowley said:

Couldn;t agree more.  My comment wasn't even a dig at Punk, i don't think anyone in WWE is on Drew's level right now and i think he's surpassed both Rollins and Punk at this moment

Agreed on all counts.

[Ziggy]

12 hours ago, Sex Machine Gun said:

Quit screwing around, have some balls and do something interesting:

Finally turn Cena heel during his first match back. Have him say afterward that now he knows when he's done so now he doesn't have to kiss ass anymore, lean the fuck into it from there. "These are the kind of 'superstars' you expect to replace me??" he says while dragging the bloody husk of Sami Zayn behind him out into the arena, shit like that. He can still ride off into the sunset as a good guy after his last match somehow but come ON.

(I know this will NOT happen under any circumstances but the idea popped into my head)

I don't think fans would take him as a heel at this point. Unless he goes 100% into his Thuganomics era , it won't work. Or he goes Hogan esq heel and joining Solo in the New Bloodline but you don't want to have anyone outside the Polynesian Dynasty at this point in that group. 

They should've turned him heel the before he stopped full time schedule. Atleast among the kids it would reduce merch sales if he did turn. If any time he needs to be to super white meat babyface Vince wanted him to be ,it's now and you'll be getting zero divisiveness among the audience of any age.

 

Edited July 7, 2024 by Ziggy

[Sex Machine Gun]

Oh I know it'd be counterproductive and dumb, old teenage E-fed impulsive thinking just popped into my head.

[Greggulator]

Sami vs. Bron was incredible. That pin was a thing of beauty — Bron had to do some taunting before going to spear Sami, and he got caught. Sami took no chances and immediately went for the pin. Loved the booking for this, too. Bron getting beat this early in his career makes him not have to deal with a big winning streak and how you get out of a guy in a Goldberg steak. But he looks even more awesome as he now goes to eventually dethrone Sami by learning where he erred. 

[Johnny Sorrow]

26 minutes ago, Greggulator said:

Sami vs. Bron was incredible. That pin was a thing of beauty — Bron had to do some taunting before going to spear Sami, and he got caught. Sami took no chances and immediately went for the pin. Loved the booking for this, too. Bron getting beat this early in his career makes him not have to deal with a big winning streak and how you get out of a guy in a Goldberg steak. But he looks even more awesome as he now goes to eventually dethrone Sami by learning where he erred. 

Yeah, it was perfect. Number one, they didn't want to beat Sami in Canada again. They also want to further establish that Sami is an underdog who wins the big ones, and is an established top guy. It also , like you said, drops the Goldberg stuff perfectly, as Sami IS a top guy, yet Bron suffered nothing by the loss, given how the match and finish were booked. 
Does Bron eventually beat Sami for the belt or does Sami hold the belt when he's definitely going to be on OG Bloodline at , what? Survivor Series? Fucked if I know, but I'm loving this booking that makes sense.

Edited July 8, 2024 by Johnny Sorrow

[odessasteps]

Heating Sami up for the Bloodlines stuff makes sense. 

[EVA]

I figured Bron was losing here. There’s a LOT of early-ECW Rhino in how they’re booking him right now, and Rhino lost a lot more in those days than most people probably remember. He created a lot of chaos but was very gettable in a straight up match against top-tier guys.

[odessasteps]

You can also just say “young lion mistake he will learn from that” 

[DreamBroken]

superhuman sami sucks. 

[The Natural]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DAyx5Admtak

John Cena and CM Punk reunite.

[Kevin Wilson]

I really really wish WWE would balance better PPV time vs. match time. I understand they want to/need to have ads during their PLE's. Its the price I pay for getting WWE PLEs for only $5 to $10, there is going to be some ads. But Money in the Bank just felt even worse than usual. I swear after the Cena promo, I got up to do work around the house, did dishes, came back ten minutes later and Samantha was still finishing intros for the next match. There is just so much dead time, I wish some higher up in WWE would sit at home and watch it on Peacock and think "hmm we are hurting the at-home viewing experience, how can we improve?"  It didn't used to be this bad, feels like it started when PLEs went to five matches but they still want the shows to be three hours.

Anyway, the matches were pretty predictable but doing the predictable thing isn't always the wrong thing, a 'swerve for the sake of a swerve' never helps anyone in the long run. I'm really torn on the women's MITB as while I was highly sports entertained I was also concerned with the number of bad/accidental bumps. There is always a fine line between "I want to see dangerous stuff" and "I don't want to see people actually hurt" and you knew it was bad when even the commentators had to acknowledge how dangerous it looked (they didn't make that comment during the men's, which had the spots but was much more crisp). I enjoyed it! But I'm just glad no one was injured as there were some rough parts.

[Dolfan in NYC]

In case you wanted to see what Paul looks like when he's actually mad about something:

I do remember the old policy was counting the shoot 3 if a talent botched a spot this badly (cf. Emma winning that 4 way with Charlotte, Becky, and someone?)

[NoFistsJustFlips]

The downtime and amount of ads will hit you a little less hard when you accept these aren't ppvs. They are tv shows. Peacock has increased the amount of ads they run for the non-ad free tier. Which means WWE can't run actual content during these ad breaks. All they can do is run video packages and hype videos to try and cover for it. It's out of their hands.

The ad breaks aren't going away. Maybe they can be better managed. Or do exclusive live promos that the ad people miss? But Im not sure they'd want any segment of the fanbase to miss a chunk of the content for the shows. Maybe you also live stream the ad break promos on social? But I would think that would annoy Peacock.

We'll just have to suffer through until the Peacock deal expires (at the end of next year I believe?) and Netflix buy up those rights too.

Edited July 8, 2024 by NoFistsJustFlips

[Cliff Hanger]

1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

 I do remember the old policy was counting the shoot 3 if a talent botched a spot this badly (cf. Emma winning that 4 way with Charlotte, Becky, and someone?)

Theoretically that's still the case, but can you imagine how Levesque and the writers would have responded if he had counted 3 and Priest had to leave TJD? The poor ref was put in an impossible position here.

[NoFistsJustFlips]

Yeah and it would have thrown the whole cash in dynamic off. Can't be like oh Drew is cashing in and making it a triple threat if the match is over. That makes Drew the dumbest motherfucker of all time to add an extra dude to his cash in if the match is already over. One of those cases where it was handled the best it could be. Circumstances made that impossible to call it like a shoot.

[Peck]

Plus it had to be a Triple Threat for Punk's interference not to result in a DQ.

[Dolfan in NYC]

I'd think the right answer is Dusty Finish everything. Seth "wins" the title, Drew (on cue) comes out to cash in, changes it to a match one on one vs Seth.  Punk interferes, curbstomp, yay Seth wins.  

Monday find some excuse why the whole thing is thrown out.  Like, Damien's shoulder was slightly rolled up and the ref improperly counted the 3, or his hair wasn't conditioned enough, anything.  Damien gets his title back, Seth is SOL - but gets his final FINAL chance that night - hell, give Drew the briefcase back too.  (OR... to further his rage - Adam Pearce says since you hit me, your cash in IS valid and you don't get it back.)

This is pro wrestling.  Much like politics, it's the art of the possible. 

The ref is there to facilitate and tell the story, not to ad lib.  (Which, I understand is weird to say when he didn't ad lib and made everyone look stupid.)

[RazorbladeKiss87]

8 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:

I really really wish WWE would balance better PPV time vs. match time. I understand they want to/need to have ads during their PLE's. Its the price I pay for getting WWE PLEs for only $5 to $10, there is going to be some ads. But Money in the Bank just felt even worse than usual. I swear after the Cena promo, I got up to do work around the house, did dishes, came back ten minutes later and Samantha was still finishing intros for the next match. There is just so much dead time, I wish some higher up in WWE would sit at home and watch it on Peacock and think "hmm we are hurting the at-home viewing experience, how can we improve?"  It didn't used to be this bad, feels like it started when PLEs went to five matches but they still want the shows to be three hours.

Anyway, the matches were pretty predictable but doing the predictable thing isn't always the wrong thing, a 'swerve for the sake of a swerve' never helps anyone in the long run. I'm really torn on the women's MITB as while I was highly sports entertained I was also concerned with the number of bad/accidental bumps. There is always a fine line between "I want to see dangerous stuff" and "I don't want to see people actually hurt" and you knew it was bad when even the commentators had to acknowledge how dangerous it looked (they didn't make that comment during the men's, which had the spots but was much more crisp). I enjoyed it! But I'm just glad no one was injured as there were some rough parts.

I'm wondering how brutal all that down time is live. It's bad enough at home when, like you said, you can do stuff around the house during ads. 

[Greggulator]

Seth handled it well last night by saying mistakes with refs happen all of the time in sports, and you have to accept that. That’s all you need to say. 

[The Natural]