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Dear All Elite Wrestling, All of us here at the DVDVR strongly suspect that people from AEW at least occasionally lurk on these boards. Many of us kind of suspect that Tony Khan himself still looks in from time to time. It's my genuine hope that this thread will gain the attention of someone at AEW who has the power to do something about this. I am not kidding about that. I hope I have earned enough goodwill here that the mods will allow this thread and my fellow posters will respond here in good faith (even if they strongly disagree with me) Anyway: I am a fan. I have been a fan since day one. I love your wrestling shows, I love your video game, I proudly wear your t-shirts and hoodies. I want AEW to live forever. I mean this sincerely, and I intend it not as a complaint but as genuine advice: Please stop spitting in the face of your true fans and hardcore supporters. I am specifically talking about AEW Fight Forever, and the current debacle of overcharging for low-value DLC. It's a legit debacle. People are FURIOUS. And, the people who are most upset are those of us who love AEW and love Fight Forever the most. Those of us who bought in on day 1 and support you wholeheartedly and very much want your pro wrestling promotion and your video game to succeed. We all happily paid full price for what is clearly an unfinished game, trusting you when we were told that there would be a lot more game to come. Specifically, every person I know who plays Fight Forever has been hoping for: More match types, and a far more robust creation suite for making CAWs. I personally am very much hoping that we will eventually get a GM mode. That seems like a no-brainer. Tony Khan is OBVIOUSLY a fan of EWR-type pro wrestling booking sim games. As am I. As are all of my friends who play wrestling games. PLEASE give us a booking sim mode on Fight Forever. We don't even have a way to book cards/shows in the game, as things stand now. It sure would be fun to book a tournament in the game! We would all love more wrestlers, and continued updates to the wrestlers we have. Only a third of the wrestlers in the Continental Classic are available in the game now. Bryan, Kingston, Mox, and Andrade. No Claudio, Swerve, Garcia, Lethal, Briscoe, Jay, or Brody King. Keith Lee is available for download at an extra charge. That's two thirds of the wrestlers in the tournament not available unless you paid for the Limitless Bunny download. (I have made a decent Claudio CAW, with the very very very limited resources available). You'll probably want to charge us for Garcia, Swerve, Switchblade, etc... I don't agree with that, but it is what it is. It's standard "screw the customers" stuff rather than spitting in our faces. But...as far as I know, there isn't even any sign that most of them are even on the way. You gave us updated costumes for Jericho, Mox, Kenny, Luchasaurus, Britt... and a new hairdo for Trent. For free! And that was much appreciated. More of that, if possible, please and thank you. Instead of what we have been begging for: You gave us a Fortnight-type game. You are reportedly going to give us a Mortal Combat type ladder mode. Nice. Thank you. Nobody I know was ASKING for that, but it's (somewhat) better than nothing. But the current wide-spread impression is that the new mode, the new Dynamite arena, (and the new CAW Santa hat and reindeer horns that LITERALLY NOBODY was asking for) are ALL going to be behind a pay-wall. That we will have to purchase the (WILDLY overpriced) season pass or at least pay for more downloadable wrestlers to get at even that meagre extra content. And there is zero hint that anyone is working to give us any of the things we have been asking for since launch. Again, this is after we PAID FULL PRICE FOR AN UNFINISHED GAME, trusting that you'd fill it out for us. And again, people are FURIOUS about this. Not just any people. Hard core fans. The YouTube guys who have been promoting and defending this game for months are all making angry videos now. The comment sections are unanimous in agreement with them. All of my friends who play this game (a small group, but we are all passionate AEW fans) are in stunned disbelief that we are being screwed over by the company we have loved and supported from Day One and had been waiting for and dreaming of, for years. THOSE OF US COMPLAINING NOW ARE NOT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BELLYACHING ABOUT EVERY LITTLE THING SINCE THE GAME WAS RELEASED. We have been happily enjoying the half-a-game we were given at launch while patiently waiting for you to deliver the rest of the premium-priced experience that we paid for. And repeatedly telling the bellyachers to just be patient. Your company has so much good will. The impression you are giving here is that you are eager to burn through that good will as fast as possible. When good will is dwindling, as it is now, it can be built back up. Once the good will is gone, however, it's gone for good. I am sure people are willing and happy to pay for The Acclaimed. Everyone loves them, after all. I don't agree with that model, but I can accept it. Just, please don't hide basic gaming content behind that same paywall. Look at No Man's Sky, for example. Like Fight Forever, it was a victim of very high expectations at launch and people were disappointed by what they got out of the box. But, they kept adding content and updates FOR FREE and now they have a massively successful game and and endless supply of customer good will! It's a good example! Please consider following it. Please consider making a Huge Announcement about how there will be more content coming that is not behind a paywall. Please go back to being the company that listens to and respects and communicates with its fans. Even if AEW and AEW Games are separate corporate entities (I don't know what the actual case is, here) the VERY bad impression currently being generated by the latter is certainly going to have an affect on the former. Please put out this fire. Thank you, In all sincerity, Gordi Whitelaw, AEW fan.

oh no

You know who has been conspicuously absent since all this Devil nonsense? The bathing beauty Maria I hope we get a segment where Ruby and Ange are on a date being chaperoned by Daddy Magic and Sayraya

As an old school 80's Philly heel fan, I love that Dominick turned heel and told his old man to go fuck himself cause he's got a hot goth girlfriend and a gang of cool punks to be part of. Totally worked out for him. He made the right choice.

JETS stands for "Just Enemy Touchdowns Scored" this season.

J E S T JEST JEST JEST

I thought about something from the Dream Slams (for the record, my favorite from those shows is Double Inoues vs. Mayumi Ozaki & Cutie Suzuki), but I also figured that those shows get plenty of love and I worry that they trend towards overhype. There are so many people that hype them up, and rightfully so, but I also think that there is a lot of great wrestling from that era that gets overlooked, so I prefer to lean towards... not exactly deeper cuts, but stuff that might be in danger of becoming lost to time (JWP and Arsion especially, not so much GAEA thanks to the GAEAism YouTube channel and there's some high quality stuff there too).

I want to buy the DLC but I need assurances that there's more coming than what's announced. The MK stuff sounds neat but it's not out now and as much as I love The Acclaimed I can't justify getting this. Plus of all times to do it it's when Christmas season which means I'd rather spend it on shopping for others or on an actual game (hello, Steam sale!) I still believe in the game and want to support them with everything. But I need to hear more about what they're promising and confirming and not just going off of potential leaks. The thing I want the most are more wrestlers and I heard one of the guys from the game say that it depends on how successful the game is. Which is kind of bullshit as it's dangling this carrot in front of many on the roster who would love royalty checks and putting pressure on the fans to buy everything. The other thing too is I don't believe they're going to have yearly games come out like WWE does with theirs. For all we know this could be something where they just add a bunch of stuff over time and eventually everybody gets in. Maybe it keeps the game fresh for some, maybe it doesn't. Me personally I'd rather have everything all at once and go fucking nuts. But if it's a healthy mix of lots of free updates with some low priced DLC then sure it could work. But I'm not getting that impression with these season passes. The other thing too is I know Kenny has given updates before on the AEW Games Youtube channel when the game was being worked on. He's been mostly quiet since launch and if there was ever a time for him to address things it's now. EDIT: Okay, so checking the AEWGames Discord here's what one of the devs is saying. "Every pack has quite a bit more with it than listed, working on getting a full list that i can give public." He wasn't sure why this wasn't done from the start but they're working on fixing that. Also, "The season 2 was released before any feedback or discussions of improvements. So hopefully season 3 will be the one which they listen to the fans etc and implement feedback." He said all that can't be announced now due to them putting out fires from the backlash plus corporate stuff. But he said they're working on getting out there what is included and the roadmap. It might take a week but more likely a couple weeks to get that out there. So he is honest but also at the mercy of NDAs and needing to get things cleared which is understandable. I'll likely get the pass though maybe not today due to online shopping/Steam sales. But at least there's a promise of something to be announced.

i looked into buying this the other day. still no Samoa Joe? still no cage match? your reference to the Continental Classic/Fight Forever crossover is scathing and a HUGE oversight. i mean, i guess this is the ultimate outcome of Tony's "new toy" mentality, but big OOOOF. my wait continues.

I think it was around the time I patented not giving WotC any more of my money.

We need a real-time Macho Man translator for him.

Furthermore they quit on that game today. If you watch so many of the sacks they give up, I don’t know how bad the OL sucks physically when there are so many untouched guys mowing down the quarterback on blown assignments. They don’t even try to do jack else offensively, and over on STs they answer a free pick 6 with a missed XP. Then not to be outdone in the quitting department the offense gives back the free touchdown on a play where they actually quit. They thought it was over when he INT’d it and it wasn’t. Then what happened when you quit on a play in a football game…happened.

Only the Jets can try turn a Hail Mary into a Pick 6.

Or Daddy Magic and Saraya grow close to each other

Not only chaperoning but doing everything possible to sabotage the date, which then, against all odds ends up being so successful that Ruby and Ang are even closer by the end of it and Menard and Saraya flip their shit!

I am going to have to really sit down and think cause narrowing it down to five is going to be tough. If you're talking the two Dream Slam super cards or the JWP Thunder Queen 1993 show mentioned above, hell, you might have two or three of my favorite matches on the same show. I'll feel crappy just only listing 3 shows for five matches.

My opinion changes constantly and it's always based on mood, but right now as of this very minute it's... - JWP vs AJW, Thunderqueen match (July 31, 1993) - Mariko Yoshida vs. Hiromi Yagi (February 18, 1999) - Dynamite Kansai vs. Hikari Fukuoka (April 8, 1997) - Tsukasa Fujimoto vs. Ibuki Hoshi (September 18, 2021) - Aja Kong vs. Michiko Ohmukai (February 18, 1998) You may notice I like themes of underdogs/youth vs. experience. The Thunderqueen match is without exception my favorite match ever. Yoshida/Yagi is technical excellence. The rest are underdogs or younger wrestlers (Hikari, Ibuki, Michiko) looking to take down veterans/bruisers (Kansai, Tsukka, Aja) that they have never been able to conquer before. Sometimes they're trying to win titles, like Hikari Fukuoka or Ibuki Hoshi. Sometimes they've changed promotions and want a fresh start like Michiko Ohmukai and want to start by taking out the biggest name on the block. Sometimes they want to show they're not the kid they used to be to the person that practically helped raised them (Ibuki again). They're all compelling to me personally.

I deleted the game from my PS5 hard drive back in August after trying to make a halfway passable Tsukasa Fujimoto and failing miserably due to the lack of CAW assets, and haven't really missed it. To see that there's a second season pass that those who bought the Elite edition don't get access without paying to is really disappointing. That really feels like a double-dip, especially considering the first season pass added very little to the game outside of a few characters that should have been in the base game to start with, and almost nothing to create people with. It almost feels like the devs are trend-chasing, and that historically does not bode well for game development.

I am completely stupid. I finally figured out that Inspector Kemp, Kennith Mars's character in Young Frankenstein, is actually a parody of Inspector Krogh, Lionel Atwell's wooden armed policeman character, in Son of Frankenstein. In my defense, I have only seen Son of Frankenstein like two times. The second being this morning on Cinevault Horror while doing laundry and getting ready for my trip to visit the relatives in Cali over the next few days.

Man, I miss Dark!

I saw House Wall Clock in the theater and loved it. It's probably the most un-Eli Roth movie he's ever done.

My favorite dude in AEW. Needs the rocket ship. I need Daddy Magic and Eddie Kingston to get into a personal issue.

Now I’m just hearing Cappetta in his announcing voice being like, “The following quiz will be worth 20% of your grade for the semester!”

todays match, Misawa vs Kobashi 1/20/97

Well...supposedly both El Desperado and Tetsuya Naito are set to have eye surgery in the lead up to Wrestle Kingdom. The only source I've seen for Despe needing this is his WK opponent, Hiromu Takahashi (via NJPW's official website). Naito's has been discussed in various outlets, originally Tokyo Sports. I first saw it via Fightful: https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/tetsuya-naito-undergo-right-eye-surgery-november-7 If the above article and Tokyo Sports are to be believed, this is apparently the last time Naito can get this surgery (he's already had two and I guess people are limited to three for whatever reason I, as a person who isn't a doctor, don't entirely understand). Gotta admit to being a little nervous given that both are maybe my two favorite wrestlers working today. Of course, this has kickstarted a lot of speculation about how much time Naito has left in the ring, too.

Tessa Blanchard is now bringing her "redemption tour" to CMLL, where she competes Friday in the Women's Grand Prix. Here's a fan cam of her first match in CMLL, a 10-woman eliminator with Tessa/Mei Suruga/Sumie Sakai/Makoto/Johnnie Robbie (ex-Robbie Rocket from WOW) vs. Reyna Isis/Amapola/Skadi/Hera/Olympia. Let's check to see what Abadon has been up to ahead of their AEW return Friday. 3:30 -- Abadon is America. Seriously, that's a pretty original spot.

Some AJPW Kojima is at the end

From the second defunct W-1 Masa Funaki vs Takayama

WWE Smackdown June 2002 Triple H vs Hollywood Hulk Hogan, WWE Undisputed World Heavyweight Title number 1 Contendership Match

AJPW 2003 World Tag Team Championship Keiji Muto and Arashi VS Gigantes and TAKA Michinoku

Mercedes vs Mayu

NEW GLEAT! ================== Hiroyo Matsumoto vs some chump.

It's Kahoe Kobayshi taking on Yurika Oka in Sendai Girls! ===================== Takumi Iroha wrestling! ==================== Robyn and Charlette Renegade will lay it in. La Rosa Negra will REALLY lay it in. Sahara Seven represents either the 804 or the 757.

HEre ys go. Chrome works!

Enjoy Arm Wrestling

GATOH MOVE! STREAMING! ======================= GANBARE PRO! STREAMING!

Women's Wrestling Army! STREAMING! ========================== CMLL! STREAMING!

Oh MAN, this is good! These are prolly the best luchadores not in CMLL or Big Lucha. I would put Dragon Bane, Alpha Wolf and Toxin up against anyone. ========================== Dragon Bane vs Alpha Wolf! Brother versus Brother! THIS is good! ========================================== AAA! STREAMING! LAS TOXICAS!

GLEAT! STREAMING!

This match is good! Black Taurus is the best rudo on earth. Trey Miguel is under the radar but he is good. ====================== CMLL! STREAMING! ========================= CNL (Chile)! STREAMING!

Unagi in Marvelous

It's Dr Cerebro, Cerebro Negro and Cerebro Negro Jr against three dudes who are pretty good. ====================== Awesome! Dragon Bane and Alpha Wolf! They are AWESOME! Texano Jr and Super Nova are pretty good.

AAA! STREAMING!

I probably wouldn't support this considering Wino's recent bat-shit-ness about Covid but they're honest enough to show him whacking out lines of either coke or more likely meth right there on camera.

AJPW 2005 6 3 Satoshi Kojima and Kazu Hayashi VS Keiji Muto and AKIRA

Well Oiled Machines vs. The SSB (SMASH Wrestling Super Showdown VI) Really fun twist on a TLC match. Instead of the chairs part, they changed it to a tables, ladders and boxes match. What's in the boxes? Could be anything. There's some wackiness, some downright crazy bumps and just general fun. I thoroughly enjoyed this match.