dragonzombie Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Looks like the Flash is flopping. https://variety.com/2023/film/news/the-flash-box-office-disappoint-pixar-elemental-flop-1235647927/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 4:16 AM, Ligerbusa said: I liked it quite a bit. I thought Ezra Miller did a good job playing both characters, Supergirl was cool for the time she was around, and if Keaton didn't take his cowl off you wouldn't know how old he was. I liked the story, some of the comedy was a bit weird. Didn't find the cameos offensive because they were basically like cartoon characters. Not quite as gross as Peter Cushing in Rogue One. A stylistic choice as apparently Nicholas Cage actually filmed his scene. Didn't care for Keaton being the old crazy guy with long hair, a beard and flip flops as it feels like we've seen that a bunch. But I liked all the action with him as Batman. Apparently they filmed three endings. One with Supergirl and Keaton Batman at the courthouse which leaked in set pictures. Another ending with Keaton's Batman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman and Henry Cavill as Superman. That makes sense as there was a behind the scenes picture of Gadot and Calle together. Then the ending we got with George Clooney. Wild. On 6/18/2023 at 6:21 AM, TheVileOne said: [spoiler]The original ending is somehow apparently Bat-Keaton and Kara somehow surviving into the new timeline. [/spoiler] Wish we got those endings than the one we wound up with. Read another that Ben Affleck's Batman is trapped and needs rescuing. I wanted more Michael Keaton Batman and Sasha Calle Supergirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-the-flash-bomb-elemental-1235419478/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/the-flash-inside-george-clooney-return-batman-1235517975/ The making of The Flash is more fascinating than the movie itself. Edited June 19, 2023 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 So Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are the last of the "old" DC movies right? After that we switch to the Gunnverse? Because I can't imagine either of those is going to do very well either. BB looks dreadful and everyone knows Aquaman won't really mean anything in the long run. Flash was decent, but nothing about it made me want to see more of this universe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said: So Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are the last of the "old" DC movies right? After that we switch to the Gunnverse? Because I can't imagine either of those is going to do very well either. BB looks dreadful and everyone knows Aquaman won't really mean anything in the long run. Flash was decent, but nothing about it made me want to see more of this universe. Yes, that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, BrianS81177 said: So Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are the last of the "old" DC movies right? After that we switch to the Gunnverse? Because I can't imagine either of those is going to do very well either. BB looks dreadful and everyone knows Aquaman won't really mean anything in the long run. Flash was decent, but nothing about it made me want to see more of this universe. Except DC Studios says they are making Waller starring Viola Davis and Peacemaker Season 2 with Cena and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I always thought Blue Beetle was supposed to be separate from the DCEU continuity? I was really hoping it was anyway. As for Flash, I hear it's FINE, but it always had a lot working against it, and I'm frankly not surprised it failed. WB has a massive negative stench with the public, DC films have no equity, the star is a massive criminal who was never held accountable. Not to mention that comic book movies aren't guaranteed hits anymore, unless it's a legacy brand like Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Verse, etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I thought Beetle was the first new DC movie, based on social media headlines I saw.’ Said headlines also dubbed Flash and Elemental as opening week “disappointments.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The movies after the Flash are in the new universe. Also not everything was dropped or erased from the previous iteration of the universe. While other movies are set in their own respective universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I'm guessing there's maybe something at the end of Aquaman where he realizes Diana and Clark basically don't exist or don't exist as he knew them and that's your first inkling or telling that somehow the universe has changed and Aquaman was leftover in it. Why? Who knows. Enter some kind of hand wavy timey wimey reason here. It's Aquaman, who gives a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I forgot to add: boy was it ever obvious that Michael Shannon did not want to be in this thing. Dude looked like he was reciting his lines at gunpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 8 hours ago, odessasteps said: I thought Beetle was the first new DC movie, based on social media headlines I saw.’ Said headlines also dubbed Flash and Elemental as opening week “disappointments.” Blue Beetle is the first DCU character, per James Gunn. I don’t know why others are saying that movie is a part of the old continuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Casey said: Blue Beetle is the first DCU character, per James Gunn. I don’t know why others are saying that movie is a part of the old continuity. Because Blue Beetle was not mentioned in his Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters plan. James Gunn says a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Too bad he explicitly said last week on Michael Rosenbaum’s podcast that Blue Beetle is the first DCU character and Superman: Legacy will be the first DCU movie under his leadership. But make whatever excuses you want to. That video is months old, this is from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Was I the only one who didn't even know there was a Blue Beetle movie in development until the trailer dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 @Dolfan in NYC: Read in the AEW section that you've seen The Flash (2023). What did you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 I enjoyed it immensely. The CGI was very, very rough, no doubt. Though, I think that may have actually been a deliberate choice on Muschetti's part, as you have to differentiate what it looks like to be in the Speed Force as opposed to regular life. I think that was the point of the uncanny valley CGI people/dog. I know you mentioned about Ezra being annoying, but that is part of the point. Imagine going back and meeting your 18 year old self after you've lived through, everything you have, since then. I know I'd be super annoyed at this self-righteous kid who would blindly charge in without knowing or preparing for what's ahead. He's getting perspective on how other's view him and learning from that. Knowing when there's a lost cause is literally something he cannot do at the beginning of the movie. The main villain ending up being a version of himself shows that. He grows from the experience of continually making things worse to know that the only way to fix this is just to start over. (Of course, being who he is, he can't help but still do a LITTLE something... and thus, George Clooney.) The Christopher Reeve cameo was the thing I had spoiled for me, which I was very annoyed by. (The spoiler, not the appearance.) The Cage appearance was a very nice nod to the whole story of the development he (and Kevin Smith) did with that Superman. I liked that A LOT more as a wink to the audience rather than the standard MCU "lol you fucking nerds love this shit?" This is a very low bar to clear, obviously, but it's my favorite DCEU movie since the original Wonder Woman. (Also the on screen debut of Jay Garrick!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Call a mulligan and get the toxic fandom to bully them into releasing Batgirl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, The Natural said: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe basing future projects on the performance of a film that features someone that can't stop commiting various acts of assault isn't a good idea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Supposedly for that Batman Beyond movie to happen, they wanted this movie to hit the opening weekend numbers of The Batman or surpass it. Which seems insane to me, since Flash ain’t fuckin’ Batman, even if it does have like 5 of ‘em in the movie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Casey said: Supposedly for that Batman Beyond movie to happen, they wanted this movie to hit the opening weekend numbers of The Batman or surpass it. Which seems insane to me, since Flash ain’t fuckin’ Batman, even if it does have like 5 of ‘em in the movie. Yeah, I wasn't expecting those numbers for The Flash but I didn't think it would bomb badly at the box office as it has. Sucks we've had to wait so long for Batman Beyond, Batman of the Future where I'm from and said wait will be even longer. Edited June 23, 2023 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) There’s no reason they can’t revisit Batman Beyond at some point. And frankly, I’m not sure the current regime even knows what they are doing Edited June 23, 2023 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 DC movie people haven't known what they were doing since Batman Returns came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, AxB said: DC movie people haven't known what they were doing since Batman Returns came out. Or Superman 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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