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[Curt McGirt]

If only the Bob Seger that showed up on the radio was pre-Silver Bullet Bob Seger instead...

[RazorbladeKiss87]

On 3/30/2024 at 6:35 PM, zendragon said:

we got them for about one week...

 

I was in 5th grade when that single and album came out. I LOVED it. I still kind of enjoy it. Everything after was not as clever as they thought they were being but there were some solid songs on that album. 

[odessasteps]

Wasn’t expect this to show up in my YT rotation 

Never realized there were saying “ziggy” 

[RazorbladeKiss87]

https://youtu.be/fe8jJBoEmuY?si=ScLIlM-sceNJ-RDx

 

Only one way to follow that up.

[Brandon Bones]

Sometimes…

 

… when Old Bones is feeling down.  I’ll go onto youtubes and search for videos of Stuart Copeland… as he yells at STING and calls him a “cunt”.  
 

I immediately feel best better.  I shit you not.  It is a salve for the soul.  
 

No…

 

…I won’t be posting links here today.  No, sir.  If you’re to take this journey.  You must take that first step yourself.

[Death From Above]

I never gave a single fuck about The Police because, honestly, Sting isn't a very good singer and I'm baffled by the love for the guy. Copeland absolutely tore shit up in Oysterhead, though, so he's cool.

[Death From Above]

Oh, and having dumped Spotify for Tidal a while ago, I really don't miss it at all. I feel like I still have access to 99% of the stuff I had anyway (there's even a playlist transfer option though I had so many that only about a third of it made it over lol), with the added bonus I can now listen to Neil Young without needing shitty bootleg MP3s or whatever. Plus, you know, no Joe Rogan.

[odessasteps]

Todays classic rock/AOR rotation while eating lunch a at the local pizza chain has included:

Paradise City, American Girl, Hotel California, House of the Rising Sun, Fat Bottom Girls and Hurt So Good. 

[Curt McGirt]

God it will make you hate Tom Petty, and make you want to come after John Mellencamp for sure. 

In better news, Secret Treaties by the best band ever, Blue Oyster Cult, has turned 50 today! Go get weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWPh9rIQ144

[odessasteps]

I love the Imaginos album. 

[Ace]

Orville Peck is putting out a duets album later this year. The first single is with Willie Nelson actually singing what used to be a filter on the board, "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly in Love with Each Other".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BirJMnMcfBs

[ohtani's jacket]

Forgive me, I'm almost done with this...

The Chameleons' Script of the Bridge... I would not argue with anyone who said this was the best album of 1983 and that The Chameleons were the best post-punk band in music at the time. I don't think too many people would see The Chameleons are tremendously underrated despite their influence on the Manchester music scene, but that small pocket from '83-86 has me gushing the same way people used to do over The Stone Roses. This is their best album, though. 

Talking Heads' Speaking n Tongues... this would be a lot of people's pick for the best album of 1983, and I would not argue with them. This record is phenomenal. That moment when Burning Down the House kicks in still makes me jump. And the music is so freaking good. I'm not sure that people realize what an amazing synth funk record this is. This album is so good that an instrumental version would have been just as good. The Stop Making Sense film is awesome. David Byrne is awesome. 

Keith Jarrett, Gary Peacock & Jack DeJohnette's Standards, Vol.1... I haven't listened to a lot of Keith Jarrett. Mainly just a record or two when doing best of the decade polls, but that's neither here nor there since he's not doing his own material here. This is an album full of standards (duh) with some unique takes on some oldies. Nice record. 

Ras Michael & The Sons of Negus' Love Thy Neighbour… this is a trippy, psychedelic roots reggae album that features a heavy mix by Lee "Scratch" Perry. Almost dub. If you're familiar with Black Ark Studios and Perry's innovative production techniques, this is, I believe the second Black Ark record and definitely notable for its sound.

Joe McPhee Po's Oleo... I'm a big fan of Joe McPhee's early 70s records but never ventured past that point. This is pure avant-garde free jazz. It feels like you're getting attacked at times instead of hearing a melody, which can be challenging, but if you're in the mood to concentrate on the music you're listening to, it's not too bad.

The Birthday Party's The Bad Seed and Mutiny! The Birthday Party didn't release an LP in 1983, but they did realize a pair of EPs. I'm fairly sure if they had realized an LP in '83 that it would be on many people's top 10 list simply because Nick Cave has a similar following to Tom Waits and this is some seriously dark Nick Cave. I sometimes wonder where it was all coming from, but then again Australia can be a pretty isolated place. 

[zendragon]

1 hour ago, Ace said:

Orville Peck is putting out a duets album later this year. The first single is with Willie Nelson actually singing what used to be a filter on the board, "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly in Love with Each Other".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BirJMnMcfBs

I'm partial to "manly beyond my wildest desires" also looking forward to Orville's tour later this year. I wonder if his Unrighteous Brothers songs are going on the album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJXL2m--Ss&list=RDEMvlxQLgCKpWhKCycohMjFSg&start_radio=1&ab_channel=lightningrodrecords

[Curt McGirt]

9 hours ago, odessasteps said:

I love the Imaginos album. 

You know I STILL haven't spent time with that one, even though I imagine (heh) I'd love it.

They're also coming out with a new one entitled Ghost Stories. Let's hope it's half as good as The Symbol Remains, though they're due for another Curse of the Hidden Mirror.

Hey ohtani's jacket, are you continuing on to 1984 after this?

[Ace]

20 hours ago, zendragon said:

I'm partial to "manly beyond my wildest desires" also looking forward to Orville's tour later this year. I wonder if his Unrighteous Brothers songs are going on the album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJXL2m--Ss&list=RDEMvlxQLgCKpWhKCycohMjFSg&start_radio=1&ab_channel=lightningrodrecords

I've already got my ticket for Oct 1 in San Diego. This'll be my 4th time seeing him live.

 

[ohtani's jacket]

So many odds and ends...

Slime's Alle gegen Alle... this delivers exactly what it promises -- angry, rebellious German punk. No reinventing the wheel.

Fehlfarben's Glut und Asche... these guys are usually described as a German Gang of Four. Funky German post-punk with an upbeat new wave groove. I had fun.

Pictures' Pictures... this album is so weird. It's a side project of two members of Freeez. Now I love Freeez, and I think I.O.U is one of the best singles of 1983, but this shit is weird. It's an art pop collection of children's songs and some of them are downright creepy. Mostly, I think they're messing around with the new technology at the time, but it sounds like a nightmare at times.

Axe's Nemesis... this album is amusing. The cover looks like a heavy metal record, but it's actually a Southern hard rock album. I wonder how many kids blew their allowance on this. 

Von Zamla's No Make Up! This was some sort of super group formed by members of the Swedish prog band, Samla Mammas Mana. It was part of the Rock in Opposition movement of the late 70s where a group of prog bands hit back against the music industry which they claimed refused to recognize their music and instead was solely interested in profit and commercialism. I don't have a dog in that fight, but fwiw, it's a decent prog album.

Michael Franks' Passionfruit... how did I end up listening to this? This is sophisticated jazz pop. Straight easy-listening. There is no way I would gravitate towards this in a record store, but it's interesting to me that it has its fans. I guess people discovered this kind of stuff on the radio. 

Builders' Beatin Hearts... Wait, these guys are from New Zealand? All right then. I still don't need spoken word post-punk in my life even if it's an accent I immediately recognize.

Binder Quintet's Binder Quintet Featuring John Tchicai... Hungarian avant-garde jazz, y'know, for when you're in the mood for some. Actually, it's pretty good.

M·B=Maurizio Bianchi's The Plain Truth... Noisy, droning dark ambient music. Not my thing.

The Boomerang Jazz Ensemble's The Boomerang Jazz Ensemble... Soviet jazz from Kazakhstan. Interesting. It's a mix of jazz fusion, free jazz and spiritual jazz. If you're like me, you were probably unaware that there were musicians playing this kind of jazz in the Soviet Union at the time, which makes this quite the gem. 
 

Edited April 6 by ohtani's jacket

[odessasteps]

Sadly, the place where I eat lunch is playing what I presume is “modern country” so no catalogue of classic rock songs today. 

[HarryArchieGus]

On 4/5/2024 at 6:33 PM, ohtani's jacket said:

Forgive me, I'm almost done with this...

The Chameleons' Script of the Bridge... I would not argue with anyone who said this was the best album of 1983 and that The Chameleons were the best post-punk band in music at the time. I don't think too many people would see The Chameleons are tremendously underrated despite their influence on the Manchester music scene, but that small pocket from '83-86 has me gushing the same way people used to do over The Stone Roses. This is their best album, though. 

Talking Heads' Speaking n Tongues... this would be a lot of people's pick for the best album of 1983, and I would not argue with them. This record is phenomenal. That moment when Burning Down the House kicks in still makes me jump. And the music is so freaking good. I'm not sure that people realize what an amazing synth funk record this is. This album is so good that an instrumental version would have been just as good. The Stop Making Sense film is awesome. David Byrne is awesome. 

Joe McPhee Po's Oleo... I'm a big fan of Joe McPhee's early 70s records but never ventured past that point. This is pure avant-garde free jazz. It feels like you're getting attacked at times instead of hearing a melody, which can be challenging, but if you're in the mood to concentrate on the music you're listening to, it's not too bad.

The Birthday Party's The Bad Seed and Mutiny! The Birthday Party didn't release an LP in 1983, but they did realize a pair of EPs. I'm fairly sure if they had realized an LP in '83 that it would be on many people's top 10 list simply because Nick Cave has a similar following to Tom Waits and this is some seriously dark Nick Cave. I sometimes wonder where it was all coming from, but then again Australia can be a pretty isolated place. 

'Rate Your Music' indeed says Speaking in Tongues is ichiban. A cursory look over the top albums, and I wouldn't put it above New Order's Power Corruption and Lies nor the previously mentioned Tom Waits' Swordfishtrombones and the Fall's Perverted by Language. Nor would I rate it above Eno's Apollo, but that's neither here nor there. SIT isn't even so high on my Talking Heads list. For me it's a toss up between the 3 Eno records. Prolly Fear of Music. All that said, great sell on SIT. An 'amazing synth funk' record ya say. Okay. I'll take it for a drive shortly. 

I like the Chameleons, but have yet to connect in a way that puts them on the level with say Joy Division or Echo or PiL or Faith-era Cure or the Fall. Or The Sound. To be honest, I've been jumping around their catalog on Spotify. I'm not sure if I've listened to Script of the Bridge as a focused listen. Lemme give that a go too.

Joe McPhee! Very nice. 

I love the Birthday Party. I especially love all the live videos on Youtube. Another great post punk band. Such a great era of music!

[dragonzombie]

I just remembered pop up video.

[zendragon]

everytime I hear fast car, one head light or save tonight I think about pop up video

[ohtani's jacket]

Split Enz' Conflicting Emotions... Split Enz created some of New Zealand's finest pop songs, but they were nearing the end here. There was very little about this album that was musically interesting. Some OK songs but barely enough material to stitch together an album.

Tim Finn's Escapade... Tim Finn was never as good on his own as he was working with Spit Enz and Crowded House. I hope he isn't reading this, but he simply isn't as good as his brother. 

Daniel Johnston's Yip/Jump Music... Yet another album from Daniel Johnston. The tunes here weren't as catchy as on other albums, but you have to admire how amazingly prolific this guy was. This is generally more of a positive album than his more tortured stuff. Topics covered include Casper the Friendly Ghost, The Beatles, King Kong, and Danny Rapp of Danny and the Juniors fame.

Tony Rice's Church Street Blues... this is meant to be progressive bluegrass. I don't know enough about bluegrass to tell you what makes this "progressive." I assume it borrows elements from other forms of music. It's a nice record, though.

Mari Wilson's Showpeople... this was interesting. Mari Wilson was a British pop and jazz singer who did a retro throwback thing with a 60s beehive. It seems like she's taking the piss at first, but it ends up being a genuine homage to the era. She does a mean cover of Cry Me a River.

James Booker's Classified... this was a fun album. You don't hear a lot of New Orlean Blues from 1983, but this was the real deal. The highlight is an incredible cover of King of the Road. 

The Henchmen's We've Come to Play! DIY New Zealand punk rock. Terrible sound quality, but fun to hear what a group of West Aucklanders were trying to do out of a garage in 1983. 

Liquid Liquid's Optimo... This dance punk EP is most notable for the song Cavern, which Melle Mel stole the bassline from for White Lines. That led to lawsuits and Sugar Hill Records filing for bankruptcy to avoid paying Liquid Liquid the money they were due. I believe they did get some money from the song when Duran Duran covered it years later. Anyway, the EP is really good. Well worth your time.

This Mortal Coil's This Mortal Coil... This EP foreshadows the band's debut LP from the following year, and features one of the creepier album covers of 1983, intentionally or otherwise. There's never really a mood, time or place that makes me turn on some dream pop, but I can understand people who love the ethereal nature of it. And it was definitely a new style that was emerging, so that's always interesting. So, by all means, check it out.

Anthony Davis' Hemispheres... this was an avant-garde jazz record, but not an overly challenging one. Of course, you have to be in the mood to listen to something like this since it's not exactly background music, but it wasn't as messed up as some avant-garde jazz can get. 

Naked Spots Dance's Falling... for the past week or so, I've been discovering forgotten New Zealand records that aren't that well known in NZ. Mostly, because they're DIY efforts, I assume. It's kind of neat to hear what folks were getting up to back home. This is pretty cool post-punk record with female vocals. Held its own, I thought. 
 

[odessasteps]

Todays classic rock lunchtime playlist includes

the Who, Talking Heads, John cougar Mellancamp, David Bowie, Smash Mouth (not All-Star ), Joe Cocker, canned heat, Aerosmith

[Mister TV]

I’m a huge Blur fan and was scratching my head when I saw them billed in large letters for Coachella this past weekend, then I wasn’t shocked at all that the crowd of 20something influencers didn’t really care when they played. If Coachella was around for the height of Britpop in 1994/1995 Blur still wouldn’t have gotten any big reaction. 

Edited April 16 by Mister TV

[ohtani's jacket]

Sortilège's Sortilège... this was the debut EP of arguably the greatest French metal band of the 80s. They'd follow it up with their blistering debut album, Métamorphose, the following year. I have a real fondness for European metal, but whereas it makes sense for the Nordic countries to produce metal albums, France isn't the first country that springs to mind when it comes to metal. When I think of French music, the first thing that comes to mind is Jacques Brel. But these guys were good. They burnt out reasonably quickly, though. 

Warlord's Deliver Us... I'm not a huge power metal fan. I'll listen to it, and there are some bands whose discographies I'll rip through, but I'd much rather listen to other types of metal. That said, this EP and the following year's LP, And the Cannons of Destruction Have Begun..., are a decent one-two punch. Another band that broke up too soon. 

Minutemen's Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat... One of my favorite EPs from 1983. I think I said it before, but I think I like this better than their LP from the same year. Not that the album is a bad record, it's just that this EP has a fantastic raw sound to it. 

Queensrÿche's Queensrÿche... I've never been big on Queensryche. I've tried on several occasions to get into their music, but I'm not a huge fan of mixing prog with metal, and I don't like to think too much when I'm listening to music. If you like high concept metal albums, they're worth listening too. 

Husker Du's Metal Circus... another great EP from '83. Another EP that I think is better than the band's LP from the same year. This was the bridge between that record and Zen Arcade, a record which launched the band into another stratosphere. 

Minor Threat's Out of Step... this was Minor Threat's third, and final, EP. Some say it's their worst, but is there really a bad Minor Threat record? I don't think so. 

Cocteau Twins' Sunburst and Snowblind... pretty music, but it still sounds like they're singing underwater.

The Cure's The Walk... I'm not sure this is all that different from the Japanese Whispers compilation album that came out in '83. 1983 was a transition year for the Cure. There were rumors that they'd broken up or were going to. Instead, they changed music styles. The music they released in '83 was the first step towards that change. Hello, synthesizers. 

Butthole Surfers' Butthole Surfers... I always get put off by this band's name, but man was this some noisy ass shit. Very cool!

The Style Council's Introducing the Style Council... I love The Jam. I don't hate The Style Council. I just think the type of music that made was done better by other people. This does have a couple of good songs on it, but like I said, I've heard better blue-eyed-soul.

Gun Club's Death Party... welcome to the party, Gun Club. After releasing two great LPs, the gave us this little gem. Man do I love punk blues. I think I'm gonna crawl down a punk blues rabbit hole after listening to this. 
 

[The Comedian]

On 4/15/2024 at 8:21 PM, Mister TV said:

I’m a huge Blur fan and was scratching my head when I saw them billed in large letters for Coachella this past weekend, then I wasn’t shocked at all that the crowd of 20something influencers didn’t really care when they played. If Coachella was around for the height of Britpop in 1994/1995 Blur still wouldn’t have gotten any big reaction. 

I guess you're as tired of reading about Damon Albarn whining as I am. I mean, A. Blur was a one-hit wonder in the US, and B. didn't Gorillaz just do a hugely successful set at Coachella just last year? If you got two acts and only one of them is popular in a locale, stick to that one when you play there...