_MJ_ Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheVileOne said: Matt Reeves released a 4K version of the trailer. Enjoy everyone. Pattinson's Batman > Everything. Wait, that's Matt Reeve's verified Vimeo account? I now need to know why Matt Reeves used Vimeo to host the teaser of all places. Edited August 23, 2020 by _MJ_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jiji said: I think we agree. Obviously super heroes are stand ins for the police/authority/justice. But they were even establishing the idea that Batman's existence was a problematic sign of an unhealthy city in the second Nolan movie. Harvey Dent was supposed to be the real change needed to stop corruption and 'fix' the city. Batman is a stopgap plugging holes. But as you say, look at how that ends in the third one. JGL's character was supposed to be a return to "healthy normalcy" but it felt shoehorned in with what you say about the police putting down the hooligan naive socialist revolution. Just felt like jumbled messaging that got fucked with at the end. Look, right now if they release something like the above in a time when people, particularly Black people who have long been taking the brunt of white legal violence, are voicing serious concerns about police brutality, it will be a tone deaf failure. There has to be some sort of examination of the problem Batman has always presented of a rich white dude beating up poor "thugs". Not to mention, torturing and brutally interrogating suspects. You know, things that are illegal. He's allowed to operate unchecked because he's the hero the city "needs"! Edited August 23, 2020 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Casey said: Batman would totally vote for Joe Biden and think that's enough, just gonna say it. We all kind of know in our hearts that if Bruce Wayne was real, he'd probably be one of those Lincoln Project people. *vomits in mouth* Edited August 23, 2020 by Andy in Kansas 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: It looks worse than the theatrical cut. Disagree. The theatrical cut is the one DC movie I passed on seeing in the theaters. I watched it later and was so glad we didn't go because it's a total abomination. Edit: But I'm not here to discuss all of that again. I'll stick to talking about Matt Reeves and other stuff. Edited August 23, 2020 by Niners Fan in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy in Kansas said: We all kind of know in out hearts that if Bruce Wayne was real, he'd probably be one of those Lincoln Project people. *vomits in mouth* There's already a superhero for that. He's called the invisible hand of the free market! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Not to mention, torturing and brutally interrogating suspects. You know, things that are illegal. He's allowed to operate unchecked because the he's the hero the city "needs"! Yes and the patriot act surveillance system put in place during the second movie too. Like it was okay to use because he really needed it but don't worry he'll destroy it when the threat is gone. Nolan had some problematic messaging from the start. The second movie is still the best super hero movie I've seen and a masterpiece in so many ways but it had a troubling undercurrent of accepting the sweet embrace of totalitarianism to be safe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andy in Kansas said: We all kind of know in our hearts that if Bruce Wayne was real, he'd probably be one of those Lincoln Project people. *vomits in mouth* ....so I was right is what you're trying to say I'd give DC all of my money if they ever made a live-action Red Son movie, but they're cowards. Now that's a champion of the working man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Except what do the Avengers do? They punch things. They cause collateral damage. They don't fix world hunger. They don't fix poverty. They don't cure diseases. They don't help the environment. They just punch stuff. This isn't isolated to Batman. I think you can get away with all of that if you make light of it afterwards. A bunch of people are dead but I have some zingers for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, _MJ_ said: Wait, it that's Matt Reeve's verified Vimeo account? I now need to know why Matt Reeves used Vimeo to host the teaser of all places. I believe it is. The same account posted a Pattinson/Batman screentest earlier. Not sure if it has anything to do with Vimeo having a higher quality player/compression rate. I wonder if that had anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Doesn't youtube compress videos to shit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jiji said: Doesn't youtube compress videos to shit? You can watch YouTube in 4K. Maybe Matt Reeves didn't like that YouTube upped his TV subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jiji said: Doesn't youtube compress videos to shit? The Vimeo player quality on that video definitely looks better and sharper, so that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I think you can get away with all of that if you make light of it afterwards. A bunch of people are dead but I have some zingers for you. I mean, at least the MCU addressed the Avengers being an unchecked entity that causes destruction on a global scale.... All that happened with Superman destroying several city blocks was a Senate hearing and Batman wanting to murder him but ultimately they made up because their mommy's have the same name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Niners Fan in CT said: You can watch YouTube in 4K. Maybe Matt Reeves didn't like that YouTube upped his TV subscription. But is it a genuine 4K transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) Yeah, youtube can say something is in 4k or 1080p and it can look like ass. I know Netflix through Chrome looks like shit even with the HD settings on but much better in the windows app. Edited August 23, 2020 by Jiji 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casey said: I mean, at least the MCU addressed the Avengers being an unchecked entity that causes destruction on a global scale.... All that happened with Superman destroying several city blocks was a Senate hearing and Batman wanting to murder him but ultimately they made up because their mommy's have the same name. But then half of them said "fuck this, I'll do what I want anyway" and ran away from accountability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Yeah, we've already discussed how most superheroes are pieces of shit. But at least it was addressed for more than 5 minutes in a throwaway scene that ultimately meant nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Just to quickly answer something that was sorta asked a page back The Batman is reportedly set in “Year 2” of Batman’s existence (for lack of a better descriptor) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I don't believe this has been confirmed but there's been so many rumors hinting that Reeves is doing a trilogy, I think those that are speculating this is setting the table for other things down the line are right... I have my own theories about how this may play out but I'm not going to try to speak them into existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 The best Riddler was Jeremy Irons in Die Hard with a Vengeance. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 He definitely said he had a trilogy in mind some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Control said: I think I’m done with Batman films. Do you mind elaborating? I'm interested in your thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Going back a bit, sure I’m not a fan of the Jim Carrey Riddler, but I’m thankful that he got the part and that Tommy Lee Jones was cast in the same movie. Word is that Jones didn’t like Carrey. This led to one of my favorite quotes of all time when Jones told him, “I cannot sanction your buffoonery.” It’s such a useful quote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jiji said: Do you mind elaborating? I'm interested in your thoughts on this. I won't put words in his mouth, but I'll give voice to my own lukewarm feelings. Batman was my favourite superhero as a kid. I've seen the DCAU stuff more times than is probably healthy. I still enjoy a hit of that nostalgia from time to time. I've seen all kinds of Batman movies. I've got Brave and the Bold to speak to a different kind of silver age sensibility that the movies feel like they'll probably never get around to. I've got the fun camp of the Adam West series. I've gotten to read all kinds of Batman books from all sorts of different times. At a certain point, as is the case with most of these characters, I've had enough good content to last me a lifetime. And having consumed more Batman than nearly any other of these characters, I could be content with never seeing any new Batman content. It's a fatigue and a recognition that it's likely nothing will hit me as hard as the stuff that hit me in my more formative years. And that's before I even try to unpack the politics of this nonsense. I guess the same could be said of any longstanding pop-culture figure or type of entertainment. I see a lot of this in wrestling fandom. The counterweight to that is with a good enough or fun enough movie, a lot of that fatigue could easily go away. I still gleefully await the next Mission: Impossible flick even though it's just as stale as any superhero franchise. Unfortunately, in the case of Batman content, nothing on screen has hit me in my happy place since Brave and the Bold ended. Dark Knight Rises was fine. Batman vs Superman was as laughable clusterfuck. Joker was the maybe the worst Batman-related thing to ever be put on screen. At the end of the day, popular is popular and I understand why the production line of new Batman flicks isn't stopping anytime soon. Hopefully it hits home with a new generation of kids who want toy Batmobiles. The trailer was fine. I'll probably see this opening weekend and should keep my lame bored feelings to myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jiji said: Do you mind elaborating? I'm interested in your thoughts on this. How come Batman doesn’t dance anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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