SorceressKnight Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 DVRVR Kickstart to buy TNAI'm on board.Only if Nikita can be the commissioner who debuts and claims that Mother Russia has begun her invasion of degenerate American wrestling.I accept this position wholeheartedly! This will be the top championship:http://yfrog.com/mm7sccgj:medium Will the title belt be given to the winner of the match, or will the result end with everyone saying "Well, AJ Styles did "technically" beat Bully Ray, but Bully Ray had better punches- so he wins..." "But AJ Styles did that missle dropkick, he wins!" "...the title's in abeyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 What is the big deal? If he makes it to the WWE they are only going to change his name anyway. If he is good and deserves to be there then I wish him the best. Not sure how changing his name would help when everyone knows who he is anyway. And he is pretty much the spitting image of Chris too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 What is the big deal? If he makes it to the WWE they are only going to change his name anyway. If he is good and deserves to be there then I wish him the best. Not sure how changing his name would help when everyone knows who he is anyway. And he is pretty much the spitting image of Chris too. I don't see why it matters. It's his life. Maybe he really likes wrestling. Maybe he's trying to work through some unresolved feelings about his father. Maybe it's one of a thousand other things. It just seems inappropriate to single him out for doing something that, while weird to some of us, isn't some sort of criminal profession or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Don't want to do a little armchair psychoanalysis, but maybe if he's great at wrestling he can try and reclaim his last name from infamy and maybe that's what he's thinking. I don't mind that he's thinking about becoming a wrestler, though it is certainly a strange profession to go into considering circumstances. What worries me is how wrestlers and promoters will treat him. It's a delicate situation, and I don't think I can handle guys trying to get heat by talking about his daddy trading holds with Satan in hell. It's all very odd and surreal, but I hope that regardless of what he does with his life, he succeeds at it. If anyone needs some good fortune it's the children left behind by this horrible tragedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm sure he's got issues he's got to work through, (in his position, how could he not?), but whether it is or isn't a good decision, I'm not gonna shit on the kid's choices. I'm just saying he's got a huge impediment to succeeding in the industry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I would never tell anyone how to live their life, but that doesn't change the fact that him getting into wrestling is, all things considered, a pretty bad idea. And it would be disingenuous of me to say "You go, kid! Live your dreams! Prove them all wrong!" because I do not see this ending well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I accept this position wholeheartedly! This will be the top championship: http://yfrog.com/mm7sccgj:medium Will the title belt be given to the winner of the match, or will the result end with everyone saying "Well, AJ Styles did "technically" beat Bully Ray, but Bully Ray had better punches- so he wins..." "But AJ Styles did that missle dropkick, he wins!" "...the title's in abeyance. As commissioner, I assure you that this type of silliness would never occour. The title changes hands in the ring folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I would hope that other wrestlers/promoters would try to look out for David. But you know shit in one hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I would hope that other wrestlers/promoters would try to look out for David. But you know shit in one hand. Even if they do, how are they supposed to stop the fans in the arena saying/chanting offensive things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I would hope that other wrestlers/promoters would try to look out for David. But you know shit in one hand. Even if they do, how are they supposed to stop the fans in the arena saying/chanting offensive things? He could just stay in Japan, right? No indy promos, no bullshit chants, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Would they? Shit half of those type of fans still worship him and the other half act like he never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You know for all these statements about him never being signed by the WWE because of what happened to his Dad. Remember this is the same company that won't mention him on camera, but they'll sometimes sneak his finisher into matches as a subtle way of saying "He might have been a horrible monster, but we still care about him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 To be fair, the company isn't the one that does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You think Sandow used the crossface as a call-out to Benoit? Hell, Cole called it "his (Cena's) move", which, while it proves that Cole can't tell the difference between a crossface and an STF, doesn't exactly scream "homage" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Completely unrelated to Daniel Benoit, I was wondering recently if you could make a character who was basically a smark troll (Like moreso than Triple H), take someone who smart fans hate and basically make his unspoken gimmick that he interrupts feuds the smart fans are into (Dolph-Bryan etc.) and 5 Star MOTYC type matches. Would that draw the right kind of heat? Because one of the problems WWE has is every time they have a top heel, they gradually get so over that the crowd just stops booing them and starts to like them (Has happened recently with Henry, Bryan, Ziggler, even, to an extent, the Shield and happens even more so in NXT with guys like Tyler Breeze getting better reactions than guys who are pushed as faces), so if you were able to push a guy whose entire purpose is to annoy the fans that end up turning these guys, would it result in good heat (Say, buying PPVs to see him get his comeuppance after ruining "good matches") or bad heat (Where they would just stop watching). Because that's exactly the gimmick I would give The Miz. Have him interrupt various beloved wrestlers matches (Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, a newly-turned Shield) and hit his zenith by having his music play during the Wrestlemania main event (So he can brag to be the first wrestler to ever crash the Wrestlemania main event, whether it's true or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You think Sandow used the crossface as a call-out to Benoit? Hell, Cole called it "his (Cena's) move", which, while it proves that Cole can't tell the difference between a crossface and an STF, doesn't exactly scream "homage" either. Shawn Micheals was using it three months after the murders. It was not a homage, but they were definitely trying to take ownership of the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Really why do the move at all? "Taking ownership" doesn't sound like a good excuse. And it hasn't been just Shawn, and Sandow that have used it since the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Really why do the move at all? "Taking ownership" doesn't sound like a good excuse. And it hasn't been just Shawn, and Sandow that have used it since the murders. I believe Triple H used it at one point, too. That was like the perfect storm of internet wrestling fan rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Wrestlers that I believe have used it since the murders... Batista, Randy Orton, Edge, Jericho, Punk, and Bobby Roode currently uses as his finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 It *is* a good move ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I hope if Bryan's trainer turns on him (HBK), his mentor (regal) shows up to even the odds.This would lead to Regal coming out and giving his Eugene speech to HHH again. Only to eventually turn on Bryan and explain that he and HHH go way back, and that guys like them (Bryan/Regal) don't make it to the top because it isn't best for business. Then, when Bryan gets pissy about it, Regal drops the "do you think you're better than me, sunshine?", leading to the first ever six-star match. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Completely unrelated to Daniel Benoit, I was wondering recently if you could make a character who was basically a smark troll (Like moreso than Triple H), take someone who smart fans hate and basically make his unspoken gimmick that he interrupts feuds the smart fans are into (Dolph-Bryan etc.) and 5 Star MOTYC type matches. Would that draw the right kind of heat? Because one of the problems WWE has is every time they have a top heel, they gradually get so over that the crowd just stops booing them and starts to like them (Has happened recently with Henry, Bryan, Ziggler, even, to an extent, the Shield and happens even more so in NXT with guys like Tyler Breeze getting better reactions than guys who are pushed as faces), so if you were able to push a guy whose entire purpose is to annoy the fans that end up turning these guys, would it result in good heat (Say, buying PPVs to see him get his comeuppance after ruining "good matches") or bad heat (Where they would just stop watching). Because that's exactly the gimmick I would give The Miz. Have him interrupt various beloved wrestlers matches (Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, a newly-turned Shield) and hit his zenith by having his music play during the Wrestlemania main event (So he can brag to be the first wrestler to ever crash the Wrestlemania main event, whether it's true or not).They basically did this with Steven Richards starting the RTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Regal Stretch > ... Yes Lock > Crossface 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Really why do the move at all? "Taking ownership" doesn't sound like a good excuse. Training the young fans who have no idea what we're talking about that the move is just a move. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 jaedmc, you are one sense-making dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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