Big Fresh Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Here's return may have screwed Elgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Cole retained. Matt Hardy was his mentor. Oh, man. Too easy. The jokes write themselves for this one. Honestly, Hero might be the only guy in ROH right now capable of generating much interest (and eyeballs). I kinda hate to see Cole cut off at the kness, but I also think they'd be smart to get the title on Hero asap and give him a long run a la Joe. Of course, this is ROH, so if he does get the title, it will only be after a feud that drags on wayyy too long, four losses in title matches, a sixty minute draw, a random heat-killing loss to Jimmy Jacobs, and general apathy from the fanbase, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 A long Hero reign would get me interested again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Guess Elgin CAN'T "win the big one"...too bad. They established that months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Guess Elgin CAN'T "win the big one"...too bad. They established that months ago. ...and with others like Tyler Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So after reading those results from PWinsider, is safe to say that New York Ring of Honor fans are the worst fans in wrestling. Seems like every time there is a big ROH show in New York the fans desperately try to make it about themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsplash Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The show wasn't especially good. That can't really be blamed on the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The show wasn't especially good. That can't really be blamed on the fans. Quotes like that are why I've come to hate "smart" fans. Anyone who would say that wasn't a real good show is either clueless or spoiled beyond belief. If WWE or TNA put on a similar show people would be raving about it. I thought I easily got more than my $20 worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 There are very few shows that aren't worth the ticket or DVD cost from ROH. Even at their worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So after reading those results from PWinsider, is safe to say that New York Ring of Honor fans are the worst fans in wrestling. Seems like every time there is a big ROH show in New York the fans desperately try to make it about themselves. I remember when ROH first started running NY at the New Yorker Hotel (site of Joe v. Kobashi) and those crowds were fantastic. They were hot for everything and really not into getting themselves over. I think it's because it felt like it took ROH forever to run shows in NYC and people were just happy it finally happened. I stopped watching in '08 and I'd say that by 2007, the crowds really started to become more concerned with getting themselves over than appreciating the shows. ROH started running almost every major show in NY and I think the fans started to take that for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hundred Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So after reading those results from PWinsider, is safe to say that New York Ring of Honor fans are the worst fans in wrestling. Seems like every time there is a big ROH show in New York the fans desperately try to make it about themselves. I started to go to the NYC shows in '06. The crowds are the worst I've ever been a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My favorite match from the show was the Young Bucks vs. Adrenaline Rush. Body of the match was real good, but I loved the finish. They built up to it and peaked at just the right moment. They didn't do too much, which is something that is a main criticism of many indy matches. When they did the finish you felt "they can't top this" and they didn't which is why it was perfect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsplash Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Maybe PWG spoiled me but outside of the main, everything just felt very lifeless. I love Steen but his match bordered on a squash, the Edwards tag had it's moments but again...It was probably the worst ROH show I've been to live, but nowhere near their dirt worst as a promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Thumbs down for the TV title match result. Not a big fan of Ciampa since he parted ways with Nana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really, really liked Outlaw Inc. vs. American Wolves from TV last week though. I liked that match alot too not a bad last match for Davey Richards there was no big send off or anything but it was a fun match packed with good wrestling what else can u ask for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Thumbs down for the TV title match result. Not a big fan of Ciampa since he parted ways with Nana. I don't get Ciampa. Okay I guess he is over 6 and has some build but he constantly gets injured, doesn't have much charisma, isn't a good wrestler and does really stupid spots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I haven't seen it yet, but what was the crowd doing that was so bad this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterious_w Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Thumbs down for the TV title match result. Not a big fan of Ciampa since he parted ways with Nana. I don't get Ciampa. Okay I guess he is over 6 and has some build but he constantly gets injured, doesn't have much charisma, isn't a good wrestler and does really stupid spots. I disagree with a lot of what you say here, but Ciampa is a legit 5' 9". He's not a tall guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 There has to be guys on the indies leaps & bounds better than Young, Page, Ciampa, Tavern & others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Does the crowd still yell "Twinkies" at Todd Sinclair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ciampa is awesome, you turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll say this for him: Ciampa has a great finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsplash Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 As for the Todd Sinclair question: yes they do. He was counting someone out and they yelled Twinkies after every number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 As for the Todd Sinclair question: yes they do. He was counting someone out and they yelled Twinkies after every number. God and baby Jesus help us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I like Silas Young, he is the only one in ROH who can get the crowd to boo him, besides maybe Bennett. But they hurt Bennett's credibility this past show, they made a big deal of him putting BJ Whitmer out of wrestling and then after the conclusion to Steen-Bennett over this, BJ Whitmer returns and forms a new stable in an unrelated match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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