Joe Lucia Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The Seattle Mariners, with all of that young pitching? Oh man....that would be brilliant. Mark Prior is STILL waking up in a cold sweat, ten years later. Also- if your team needs a first baseman this winter, they're fucked. I just wrote up my top ten list for TOC, and ended up included four or five players with severe platoon splits, Casey McGehee, who didn't even play in America this year, and Corey Hart, who didn't play at all last year. Well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Giants and TIMMAY~! agree to a two year deal. No financials yet EDIT - HA! 35 MILLION! AND A FULL NO TRADE CLAUSE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 They're paying him 5M less over the next two years than they did over the last two years, prior to him turning shitty. What the hell is Sabean doing? Dude overpays his players like it's going out of style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If Lincecum is worth $17.5m a year then Kershaw is worth $40m. At least it's only a 2-year contract but how do you pay a guy #1 starter money when you buried him into the bullpen during the 2012 postseason because he sucked so much? Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Jesus Christ I should have played baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Seriously: why don't you just give him the $14M qualifying offer? If he accepts it, you're paying less than you will be with the contract. If he declines it, you're getting a draft pick. Just a silly move from the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Giants and TIMMAY~! agree to a two year deal. No financials yetEDIT - HA! 35 MILLION! AND A FULL NO TRADE CLAUSEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI forgot what thread I was in and thought for a second we were talking about a different Giants, a different sport, and a different Timmay. The laughter at the end of the post was Rippa finally losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Yeah.... when I finally lose it, I don't think it will be in the form of hysterical laughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Holy shit! When did the Giants hire Jim Hendry? Oh Tim Livingston...I'm so sorry duder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Seriously: why don't you just give him the $14M qualifying offer? If he accepts it, you're paying less than you will be with the contract. If he declines it, you're getting a draft pick. Just a silly move from the Giants. Wouldn't it be two draft picks? I would imagine Timmay would be given Type A status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 They got rid of Type A/Type B status in the last collective bargaining agreement Under the old system, noteworthy free agents were classified by Elias (nonsensically, in some cases) as being either "Type A," "Type B" or "Type C" players. Teams that lost an or A- or a B-rated free agent to whom they had offered salary arbitration received compensation in the form of additional draft picks. To be more exact, a team losing a type-A player received the signing team's first- or second-round pick (depending on the signing team's draft slot) and a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds. A team that lost a type-B player was given a supplemental choice only. The loss of a type-C resulted in no compensation. The system now in place doesn't entail any arbitrary classifying of free agents. Instead, a team that wishes to receive compensation must submit a "qualifying offer" to the outgoing free agent. A qualifying offer constitutes a one-year proposal worth at least the annual average salary of the top 125 free agents from the previous winter. For this offseason, that comes to a one-year offer of $13.3 million. If a team makes such a qualifying offer to an outgoing free agent and the free agent signs elsewhere, then his former team will receive a sandwich draft pick between the first and second rounds. The signing team, meanwhile, will forfeit its first-round choice -- unless it's a top-10 pick, in which case the team would give up a second-round pick. The lost picks don't go to any other team; rather, the teams behind the vanished pick all slide up a slot. One other important change is now in place: To be entitled to compensation, a team must now have a departing free agent on its roster for the entirety of the season. Under the old framework, a team that acquired a walk-year player at, say, the non-waiver trade deadline could offer that player salary arbitration at season's end and thus be entitled to compensatory draft picks. That's no longer permitted. That's why you have heard Joe and I both refer to the basically $14 qualifying offer. EDIT - http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/20763514/how-the-new-free-agent-compensation-system-works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Derp derp. My bad. I should have known that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I find it rather scary that the average salary of the top *125* free agents from last year was $13.3m. That's a whole lot of money going to a whole lot of players, a lot of whom couldn't have been any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I am not sure if they use 2013 or 2014 salaries to calculate it but this guy pulled together the list (to the best of his ability) before this season started and it is pretty close to the same. Spoiled for size Following is the list of the 125 highest paid players for the 2013 season that I've put together based on data from Cot's Contracts. RANK/ PLAYER/ SALARY (In Millions) Alex Rodriguez 29.0 Johan Santana 25.2 Cliff Lee 25.0 Vernon Wells 24.642,857 Mark Teixeira 23.125 C.C. Sabathia 23.0 Prince Fielder 23.0 Joe Mauer 23.0 Tim Lincecum 22.250 Adrian Gonzalez 21.857,143 Miguel Cabrera 21.0 Carl Crawford 20.857,153 Matt Cain 20,833,333 Cole Hamels 20.5 Matt Kemp 20.25 Justin Verlander 20.1 Roy Halladay 20.0 Ryan Howard 20.0 Barry Zito 20.0 Felix Hernandez 19.857 Alfonso Soriano 19.0 Joey Votto 19.0 Zack Greinke 19.0 Josh Hamilton 17.4 Derek Jeter 17.0 Matt Holliday 17.0 Josh Beckett 17.0 Jayson Werth 16,571,429 A.J. Burnett 16.5 Jeff Weaver 16.2 Albert Pujols 16.0 Adrian Beltre 16.0 Michael Young 16.0 John Lackey 15.95 John Danks 15.75 Nick Markakis 15.35 Hanley Ramirez 15.5 Chase Utley 15.285,714 Adam Dunn 15.0 Justin Morneau 15.0 Robinson Cano 15.0 Curtis Granderson 15.0 Hiroki Kuroda 15.0 David Ortiz 14.5 Jake Peavy 14.5 Yadier Molina 14.2 Ryan Zimmerman 14.1 Jose Bautista 14.0 Hunter Pence 13.8 Josh Johnson 13.75 Paul Konerko 13.5 Wandy Rodriguez 13.5 Andre Ethier 13.5 Ryan Dempster 13.25 Dan Uggla 13.2 Ted Lilly 13.166,667 BJ Upton 13.05 Jon Papelbon 13.0 Alex Rios 13.0 Victor Martinez 13.0 Ervin Santana 13.0 Shane Victorino 13.0 Ian Kinsler 13.0 Edwin Jackson 13.0 Carlos Beltran 13.0 Dan Haren 13.0 Chris Carpenter 12.5 Michael Bourn 12.0 Torii Hunter 12.0 Andy Pettite 12.0 Kevin Youkilis 12.0 Mark Buehrle 12.0 Adam Wainwright 12.0 Brian McCann 12.0 Jon Lester 11.625 CJ Wilson 11.5 Ricky Nolasco 11.5 Bronson Arroyo 11.5 Kyle Lohse 11.0 David Wright 11.0 Jimmy Rollins 11.0 Rafael Soriano 11.0 Nick Swisher 11.0 Rickie Weeks 11.0 Jorge De La Rosa 11.0 Chad Billingsley 11.0 Clayton Kershaw 11.0 Nelson Cruz 10.75 Michael Cuddyer 10.5 Corey Hart 10.333,333 James Shields 10.25 Dustin Pedroia 10.25 Matt Garza 10.25 David Price 10.1125 Brian Roberts 10.0 Mariano Rivera 10.0 Jose Reyes 10.0 Lance Berkman 10.0 Brandon Phillips 10.0 Alexei Ramirez 10.0 Adam LaRoche 10.0 Heath Bell 10.0 Miguel Montero 10.0 Troy Tulowitzki 10.0 Justin Upton 9.958 Carlos Marmol 9.8 Stephen Drew 9.5 Yu Darvish 9.5 Ryan Braun 9.5 Carlos Quentin 9.5 Howie Kendrick 9.1 Tim Floyd 9.0 Alex Gordon 9.0 Jacoby Ellsbury 9.0 Tim Hudson 9.0 Jake Westbrook 8.75 Adam Jones 8.833.333 Anibal Sanchez 8.8 Erick Aybar 8.75 Chris Young 8.7 Chase Headley 8.575 Billy Butler 8.5 Jason Vargas 8.5 Yoenis Cespedes 8.5 Angel Pagan 8.25 TOTAL: 1,728,083,462 AVERAGE: 13.76 million So basically the 125th guy is making over $8 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Just think about how much money Mike Trout is going to get when he can finally get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipGofern Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Or even more, think about what David Price is gonna bank when he hits the market in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So basically the 125th guy is making over $8 million a year. Jake Westbrook is makng over $8 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The Phillies new TV deal should be completed within 30 days & apparently it will be massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I am not sure if they use 2013 or 2014 salaries to calculate it but this guy pulled together the list (to the best of his ability) before this season started and it is pretty close to the same. Spoiled for size Following is the list of the 125 highest paid players for the 2013 season that I've put together based on data from Cot's Contracts. RANK/ PLAYER/ SALARY (In Millions) Alex Rodriguez 29.0 Johan Santana 25.2 Cliff Lee 25.0 Vernon Wells 24.642,857 Mark Teixeira 23.125 C.C. Sabathia 23.0 Prince Fielder 23.0 Joe Mauer 23.0 Tim Lincecum 22.250 Adrian Gonzalez 21.857,143 Miguel Cabrera 21.0 Carl Crawford 20.857,153 Matt Cain 20,833,333 Cole Hamels 20.5 Matt Kemp 20.25 Justin Verlander 20.1 Roy Halladay 20.0 Ryan Howard 20.0 Barry Zito 20.0 Felix Hernandez 19.857 Alfonso Soriano 19.0 Joey Votto 19.0 Zack Greinke 19.0 Josh Hamilton 17.4 Derek Jeter 17.0 Matt Holliday 17.0 Josh Beckett 17.0 Jayson Werth 16,571,429 A.J. Burnett 16.5 Jeff Weaver 16.2 Albert Pujols 16.0 Adrian Beltre 16.0 Michael Young 16.0 John Lackey 15.95 John Danks 15.75 Nick Markakis 15.35 Hanley Ramirez 15.5 Chase Utley 15.285,714 Adam Dunn 15.0 Justin Morneau 15.0 Robinson Cano 15.0 Curtis Granderson 15.0 Hiroki Kuroda 15.0 David Ortiz 14.5 Jake Peavy 14.5 Yadier Molina 14.2 Ryan Zimmerman 14.1 Jose Bautista 14.0 Hunter Pence 13.8 Josh Johnson 13.75 Paul Konerko 13.5 Wandy Rodriguez 13.5 Andre Ethier 13.5 Ryan Dempster 13.25 Dan Uggla 13.2 Ted Lilly 13.166,667 BJ Upton 13.05 Jon Papelbon 13.0 Alex Rios 13.0 Victor Martinez 13.0 Ervin Santana 13.0 Shane Victorino 13.0 Ian Kinsler 13.0 Edwin Jackson 13.0 Carlos Beltran 13.0 Dan Haren 13.0 Chris Carpenter 12.5 Michael Bourn 12.0 Torii Hunter 12.0 Andy Pettite 12.0 Kevin Youkilis 12.0 Mark Buehrle 12.0 Adam Wainwright 12.0 Brian McCann 12.0 Jon Lester 11.625 CJ Wilson 11.5 Ricky Nolasco 11.5 Bronson Arroyo 11.5 Kyle Lohse 11.0 David Wright 11.0 Jimmy Rollins 11.0 Rafael Soriano 11.0 Nick Swisher 11.0 Rickie Weeks 11.0 Jorge De La Rosa 11.0 Chad Billingsley 11.0 Clayton Kershaw 11.0 Nelson Cruz 10.75 Michael Cuddyer 10.5 Corey Hart 10.333,333 James Shields 10.25 Dustin Pedroia 10.25 Matt Garza 10.25 David Price 10.1125 Brian Roberts 10.0 Mariano Rivera 10.0 Jose Reyes 10.0 Lance Berkman 10.0 Brandon Phillips 10.0 Alexei Ramirez 10.0 Adam LaRoche 10.0 Heath Bell 10.0 Miguel Montero 10.0 Troy Tulowitzki 10.0 Justin Upton 9.958 Carlos Marmol 9.8 Stephen Drew 9.5 Yu Darvish 9.5 Ryan Braun 9.5 Carlos Quentin 9.5 Howie Kendrick 9.1 Tim Floyd 9.0 Alex Gordon 9.0 Jacoby Ellsbury 9.0 Tim Hudson 9.0 Jake Westbrook 8.75 Adam Jones 8.833.333 Anibal Sanchez 8.8 Erick Aybar 8.75 Chris Young 8.7 Chase Headley 8.575 Billy Butler 8.5 Jason Vargas 8.5 Yoenis Cespedes 8.5 Angel Pagan 8.25 TOTAL: 1,728,083,462 AVERAGE: 13.76 million So basically the 125th guy is making over $8 million a year. The article quoted, though, said "top 125 free agents", not top 125 salaries. Top 125 salaries makes a lot more sense but even still....good lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Oh yeah - didn't notice that in the original article. Yeah - it is definitely players. That's what I get for using CBS sports as my source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Kimbrel's entering his first year of arb this winter...people are using Papelbon as a base, and adding a couple mill onto that. Dude is going to make bank over his three years or arb, and that's why Atlanta should at least listen on trading him, especially considering how volatile relievers are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hey awesome.... The Miami Marlins are under Federal investigation for improper use of interns. From the article, emphasis is mine: Labor Department guidelines state that unpaid internships are proper only when designed for the education of the interns, and not to benefit the employer or displace regular workers. http://www.local10.com/sports/report-marlins-under-federal-investigation/-/1717082/22618110/-/ptnr3v/-/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hey awesome.... The Miami Marlins are under Federal investigation for improper use of interns. From the article, emphasis is mine: Labor Department guidelines state that unpaid internships are proper only when designed for the education of the interns, and not to benefit the employer or displace regular workers. http://www.local10.com/sports/report-marlins-under-federal-investigation/-/1717082/22618110/-/ptnr3v/-/index.html There's been some high profile instances of these kind of violations of late. Some movie studio or TV show or something I think just got nailed for it. Basically, if you've got your interns doing nothing but fetching coffee, you're breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 According to Ken Rosenthal - the Nats are going with Matt Williams as manager. They also want to keep Randy Knorr. The Wash Post quotes Knorr as saying he would like to stay since Knorr said "I love this team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey awesome.... The Miami Marlins are under Federal investigation for improper use of interns. From the article, emphasis is mine: Labor Department guidelines state that unpaid internships are proper only when designed for the education of the interns, and not to benefit the employer or displace regular workers. http://www.local10.com/sports/report-marlins-under-federal-investigation/-/1717082/22618110/-/ptnr3v/-/index.html There's been some high profile instances of these kind of violations of late. Some movie studio or TV show or something I think just got nailed for it. Basically, if you've got your interns doing nothing but fetching coffee, you're breaking the law. Poppycock! I refuse to believe that a class individual like Loria would be involved in and authorize such shenanigans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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