The Comedian Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I don't know what to think about Brock/Bray at Mania. On the one hand, Bray got to face John Cena, Undertaker, and Brock Lesnar in his first three Manias. On the other hand, Bray got fed to John Cena, Undertaker, and Brock Lesnar in his first three Manias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm just glad to see the return of Puppet H on the Edge & Christian Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Chuckled seeing Roman Reigns, #1 entrant breathing hard while waiting for AJ Styles at #3. Reigns must owe an air bill from Mark Henry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Kofi being eliminated off camera was stupid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Did anyone else love Rusev not giving up that monitor? Like he was looting the announce table to send equipment back to Bulgarian National TV service. Me & my pals were hypothesizing that was was going to use it to hook up some scramblevision Cinemax Bulgarian porno. "Did someone summon tractor repair man?" "Nyet, we do not even own tractor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 If there's anything they should finally introduce into the Royal Rumble match, it's a countout rule.If you can just leave the ring and come back later, why wouldn't everyone do that?In fact it's the only smart thing to do. Why would you be in there with 15 other guys, when you can just go to the toilet instead and come back, when everyone else is eliminated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 AJ Styles bumping for everybody was basically him introducing himself to those who've barely met him if at all; given that he's skipping NXT, that isn't a huge thing. Entrance music was boss and he came across like a star. Hopefully he gets a real Wrestlemania match to cement his status, but it was a good start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Kofi being eliminated off camera was stupid. Kevin Dunn ladies and gentlemen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm not going through the 15 pages that popped up since I went to bed but WIKI has been updated with the Rumble stats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rumble_(2016) Jericho being in for 50 minutes goes on my bullshit list EDIT - He also was in for 50 minutes and eliminated one guy. So it was clear they just let him do it to feed his ego since otherwise there was no reason for him to be out there so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The Kofi elimination was among many misses during that match. Does Kevin Dunn run the camera switching in the truck too? I swear I don't remember him being this bad a few years ago. And not mentioned yet is the creepy assault by Ric Flair. That was...really weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bob Backlund once lasted an hour when he was 43 and a lot of people thought it was pretty amazing. 45 year-old Chris Jericho lasts 50 minutes and it's called bullshit. Personally I think having to work that long in a match you aren't going to win is more of a punishment than a reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 And not mentioned yet is the creepy assault by Ric Flair. That was...really weird. Not weird. It was a "Funny spot" - Dave Meltzer (per Dave's Rumble live coverage) Dave really has a terrible sense of humor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bob Backlund once lasted an hour when he was 43 and a lot of people thought it was pretty amazing. 45 year-old Chris Jericho lasts 50 minutes and it's called bullshit. Personally I think having to work that long in a match you aren't going to win is more of a punishment than a reward. Bob Backlund in 1993 is a better worker than Chris Jericho in 2016 And Backlund's run was done to help re-establish him before his eventual heel turn The only thing Jericho's appearance looks like it going to do is continue his feud with New Day And the larger general point - you use the marathon spot for a younger guy so you can help build him up for a bigger program (or an introduction spot). That is why so many people feel Styles should have gotten it over Jericho. (Personally - I think it would have made more sense with Zayn but whatevs) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 OK I've seen the ending now. Agreed that Roman not helping Ambrose was major bullshit at that point with everything that had gone down, but I guess at this point the Rumble pretty much officially makes no sense. In some ways it was the best Rumble in a while, but the wrong guy went over. Needing help would not have hurt Ambrose at that point given the match he'd been in previously, along with the heeling of the Authority and its goons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bob Backlund once lasted an hour when he was 43 and a lot of people thought it was pretty amazing. 45 year-old Chris Jericho lasts 50 minutes and it's called bullshit. Personally I think having to work that long in a match you aren't going to win is more of a punishment than a reward. And Backlund's run was done to help re-establish him before his eventual heel turn Is that right? I wonder because he was out again for a year before he challenged Bret for the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Show was fine, with a bunch of very good moments and performances. And yes, HHH winning is the most logical way to continue the story they're telling with Roman and the Authority.The problem is, they shouldn't be telling that story in the first place.The company's three biggest issues for the past few years have been: running the same "heel authority figures screw over top babyface" story over and over again; having a face on top that gets booed by at least half of the crowd all the time and doing nothing to change up his character; and building top matches at Wrestlemania around part-time over-40 talent instead of putting young guys in their spot to give them the final push they need to be seen as legit top guys.Have Ambrose win and tell a compelling story about two best friends trying not to turn on one another while building toward the most important match of their lives, and you fix the first problem. Turn Reigns heel and let him work on his act in a way that justifies the crowd reaction, then turn him back when he starts getting the little things right, and you fix the second problem. Pick someone who hasn't already had a main event run but is clearly in the upper midcard, like Rusev or Owens (or, what the hell, Styles) and have HHH help that guy win and take on the Corporate champ mantle, and you fix the third problem.So of course they chose to tell the one story that makes every one of those mistakes again instead. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bob Backlund once lasted an hour when he was 43 and a lot of people thought it was pretty amazing. 45 year-old Chris Jericho lasts 50 minutes and it's called bullshit. Personally I think having to work that long in a match you aren't going to win is more of a punishment than a reward. And Backlund's run was done to help re-establish him before his eventual heel turn Is that right? I wonder because he was out again for a year before he challenged Bret for the title. I should clarify in that I mean to re-establish him with the audience at the time. I think in the short term it was more then fell in love with some going really long (since Flair was the first guy to go a hour a year before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 So, how about that Strowman guy, Lesnar surely liked the no selling. That shit needs to be here as a GIF already! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bob Backlund once lasted an hour when he was 43 and a lot of people thought it was pretty amazing. 45 year-old Chris Jericho lasts 50 minutes and it's called bullshit. Personally I think having to work that long in a match you aren't going to win is more of a punishment than a reward. Bob Backlund in 1993 is a better worker than Chris Jericho in 2016 And Backlund's run was done to help re-establish him before his eventual heel turn The only thing Jericho's appearance looks like it going to do is continue his feud with New Day And the larger general point - you use the marathon spot for a younger guy so you can help build him up for a bigger program (or an introduction spot). That is why so many people feel Styles should have gotten it over Jericho. (Personally - I think it would have made more sense with Zayn but whatevs) I love Backlund, but I seriously doubt they had the heel turn that far planned out. I think with Backlund it was trying to create a guy to root for long term in the match so Yoko could crush him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Sometimes I get to read the shit that boggoes my mind about people who watch this stuff. "I don't want to see Ambrose/ HHH/ Reigns as champ!" What do you want then? At least something new is on the table with Wyatts vs Lobster. I'm optimistic for Heyman/Bray promos and Harper going 1:1 with Lesnar at some pt. Is it a sterling platinum program? Not really, but it's different and compelling enough. What WWE needs to do is throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. Ambrose winning last night wouod have done that. You all know and I know and they know that, if it sucks enough, it can be undone. What WWE needs to quit doing is throwing the shit, watching it fall immediately off the wall, then walking over with a hot glue gun and a whimsical "y'all didn't see that, har-de-harhar." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoychers Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I really enjoyed the show until the Rumble itself drew to a dull anti-climatic end. So many better ways to book that scenario. People can say, "it was logical" but the fact that the company is booking that story to begin with, in the way it has, speaks volumes for its lack of creativity and its desire to bring about change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Super surprise entrant HHH aka the odds on favourite everywhere shows you the mindset of the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipGofern Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 "Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" is a good way to describe Russo's booking strategy. No thanks. I'd rather the WWE - or any episodic tv show for that matter - come up with a thought out story and stick to that story through its logical conclusion. Even if that story they're telling may not be the one I'd personally most want to see. If Rollins or Cena were still healthy and they went this direction I might be a bit more upset. As it is, HHH is really the only guy left to fill the role they need - which is give Roman his big signature Mania title win. As for Ambrose, I like him fine but was I the only one who noticed KO got bigger face pops in their opener than he did? Ambrose gets a good reaction but trying to equate it to the Bryan reactions a couple years back is not even close. I'd put the title on Owens way way before I gave it to Ambrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 When WWE does the thing that makes sense, people complain about it being predictable. When they change it up, people complain that they're just throwing shit at the wall. Obviously, WWE has a core that isn't going anywhere no matter what they should do, so they should just do what they want to do and ignore critics. Gear their business so they can survive on that core. Which is basically what they've done the past couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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