Ryan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 #4 is Eat Tacos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Comics are slowly moving towards a "seasons" model where every book is going to start over after every creative team change or every year or something to that effect. Because new #1's sell better, and will hopefully hook some new readers or something. Although why they are renumbering DD now, with the same team, is, I guess, just to hopefully get more eyes on a critically acclaimed book. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Well, Captain Marvel will have the same writer. Peter David is doing All-New X-Factor. Waid said they turned down renumbering earlier because they were mid-storyline. It also puts a spotlight on Daredevil in time for the 50th anniversary of his debut. It may help disguise the cover price being bumped up. I don't know what's going on with Daredevil, but I wonder if they are planning to have a different superhero patrolling Daredevil's normal turf. Probably not the Warren Ellis relaunch of Moon Knight that has Marc Spector back in New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 It's not like there's a shortage of superheroes in nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I was seriously expecting DD to move back to San Francisco after Shadowland, rather than return to NYC. And PAD relaunching X-Factor as a new book is actually a much better idea than continuing the old numbering, IMO. The old version had been running over 100 issues, and the story of that version of X-Fac was done. Better to launch the entirely new concept and roster as a new title than to sell X-Factor #263 as an AWESOME JUMPING ON POINT. As much as I miss the old model of a single numbering scheme lasting for 30+ years, it isn't financially feasible anymore. With the cancellation of Hellblazer, we've reached a point where no major title has 150 issues. Rather than try to undo the 20-year tide of relaunches and renumberings, it's probably a better idea to just embrace the madness and use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I want X-Factor to jump back and forth repeatedly during the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Well, Captain Marvel will have the same writer. Peter David is doing All-New X-Factor. Waid said they turned down renumbering earlier because they were mid-storyline. It also puts a spotlight on Daredevil in time for the 50th anniversary of his debut. It may help disguise the cover price being bumped up. I don't know what's going on with Daredevil, but I wonder if they are planning to have a different superhero patrolling Daredevil's normal turf. Probably not the Warren Ellis relaunch of Moon Knight that has Marc Spector back in New York. They already did that with Danny Rand in the Daredevil costume when Murdock was in pridon and Black Panther after Shadowland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 This time it will be Deadpool. He's subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Well, Captain Marvel will have the same writer. Peter David is doing All-New X-Factor. Waid said they turned down renumbering earlier because they were mid-storyline. It also puts a spotlight on Daredevil in time for the 50th anniversary of his debut. It may help disguise the cover price being bumped up. I don't know what's going on with Daredevil, but I wonder if they are planning to have a different superhero patrolling Daredevil's normal turf. Probably not the Warren Ellis relaunch of Moon Knight that has Marc Spector back in New York. They already did that with Danny Rand in the Daredevil costume when Murdock was in pridon and Black Panther after Shadowland. Well, having done it before has never been an impediment to a comic book doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Another thing I'm skeptical about is the fact that The Avengers roster seems really over inflated right now and The Builders at one point basically decimated an entire fleet of interplanetary vessels and some how some way without even trying they only killed nameless aliens. They didn't have to kill Captain America or Thor, but how is it possible that not a single Avenger died. It really made the whole Builders story feel like a big waste of time that amounted to nothing. You do realize this is quite literally the most powerful Avengers team ever right? Pretty much every team split off during the war had a massive powerhouse in it sans the recent infiltration team. Also you have to be the only person clamoring for a death here. One of the big problems people have had with big events is pointless deaths. An Avenger dying wouldn't have much more weight to the story. I feel you about people having issues with the frivoulous deaths that happen in comic events, but the builders literally destroyed a couple of planets and an intergalactic armada of vessels...except the Avengers didn't suffer a single loss. That was the part of the story where we were supposed to believe that The Builders were an unstoppable force that could not be stopped. The problem for me arises when I realized that of all the seemingly billions of people who were killed none of them had a name. I don't think this story can be told effectively if we don't think that the threat will actually have an affect on characters we actually know. Maybe if they spent more time showing what happened when Captain Marvel and Hawkeye were being held captive by The Builders it would have worked better. It was basically a perfect example of telling not showing. They told us that The Builders were a bigger threat than they had ever faced, but when it actually came down to the battle it didn't really materialize into anything that seemed worthy of the hype. Not to dwell on this, but I'm trying to pass the time on a short work day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Another thing I'm skeptical about is the fact that The Avengers roster seems really over inflated right now and The Builders at one point basically decimated an entire fleet of interplanetary vessels and some how some way without even trying they only killed nameless aliens. They didn't have to kill Captain America or Thor, but how is it possible that not a single Avenger died. It really made the whole Builders story feel like a big waste of time that amounted to nothing. You do realize this is quite literally the most powerful Avengers team ever right? Pretty much every team split off during the war had a massive powerhouse in it sans the recent infiltration team. Also you have to be the only person clamoring for a death here. One of the big problems people have had with big events is pointless deaths. An Avenger dying wouldn't have much more weight to the story. I feel you about people having issues with the frivoulous deaths that happen in comic events, but the builders literally destroyed a couple of planets and an intergalactic armada of vessels...except the Avengers didn't suffer a single loss. That was the part of the story where we were supposed to believe that The Builders were an unstoppable force that could not be stopped. The problem for me arises when I realized that of all the seemingly billions of people who were killed none of them had a name. I don't think this story can be told effectively if we don't think that the threat will actually have an affect on characters we actually know. Maybe if they spent more time showing what happened when Captain Marvel and Hawkeye were being held captive by The Builders it would have worked better. It was basically a perfect example of telling not showing. They told us that The Builders were a bigger threat than they had ever faced, but when it actually came down to the battle it didn't really materialize into anything that seemed worthy of the hype. Not to dwell on this, but I'm trying to pass the time on a short work day. You see what happens with Captain Marvel and Hawkeye in Captain Marvel #15-16. Doing it in a tie-in may annoy some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I've liked Infinity well enough, but not loved it. I definitely wouldn't put it up there with DnA's best work, or some of the better Marvel events of the past few years. Definitely not on par with AvX for me. A lot of it is the way Hickman sets up and tells stories. I definitely agree with the "showing not telling" story comment above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think one of my issues is that I loved Hickman's FF run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Read Uncanny Avengers #14. Issue was solid, but sort of lacked the appropriate impact for me as the big deaths in the issue have already been shown to not stick with the appearances the supposedly deceased characters have made in other books that take place after this story. Finished up Infinity with Infinity #6 and New Avengers #12. I was overall pleased with the conclusion in Infinity #6. It was good big action issue that also ended with some set ups for future stories be they in Avengers or elsewhere in the Marvel Universe. NA #12 was a nice epilogue with the team continuing their gradual loss of self and a hint at whats to come. More and more I'm convinced that Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers run may very well be the end of 616 with the various building/hints of whats to come over the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Lockjaw continues to save us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 This biggie happened a year ago this month (spoilered for size): I was surprised by it like others but as a fan of Dan Slott's solo run on The Amazing Spider-Man, I'd wait and see. This move caused controversy. Not long ago I read the story it happened in, The Amazing Spider-Man: Dying Wish and it was a great story. I've also read the books following it written by Dan Slott, The Superior Spider-Man (Vol. 1): My Own Worst Enemy which I really liked and I also liked The Superior Spider-Man (Vol. 2): A Troubled Mind. I'm hoping to read The Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 3): No Escape which my local library has on order ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The science behind that seems alittle shaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The science behind that seems alittle shaky. But you're okay with the radioactive spider thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 He's questioning the science of being able to print on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 RE: Avengers Arena, the official dead would be: Red Raven, Mettle, Nara, Apex(and her brother, supposedly), Kid Briton, Juston and Reptil(or was he unconscious?)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm assuming the last one made a valiant sacrifice and is legitimately dead, for now at least. I found Hopeless's final letter to the readers really interesting, basically admitting that he initially hated the concept as much as the readers and had to be talked at length into doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Despite being annoyed with him for writing it I don't really blame Hopeless for Arena happening. He made it clear beforehand that it had originally only been planned as an arc for a Braddock Academy pitch he was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Yeah, he's told that part of the story before. What was new was his talking about how utterly he hated having his bigger concept cut down to "a Battle Royale rip-off" and how he was ready to just walk away when Brevoort/Alonso suggested he do 18 issues of the death match instead of the broader concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 The science behind that seems alittle shaky.But you're okay with the radioactive spider thing? That was the joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 What about radioactive octopus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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