Chaos Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I cringed when they announced it as a two part film. When they expanded it to three, I knew this was going to be a rough outing. I'll end up seeing Battle of the Five Armies because my fiancee enjoys the series, but she also was feeling weighted down half-way through this one, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistah Na1m4rk Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 The new Hobbit movies are unwatchable. Lots of flash, lots of action, but there's nothing that really holds my interest despite my overall fondness for the source material. In fact, it was pretty much the same reaction I had to Jackson's "King Kong" remake - sitting there watching everything on the screen and repeatedly thinking, "Boy, this just keeps going don't it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 The new Hobbit movies are unwatchable. Lots of flash, lots of action, but there's nothing that really holds my interest despite my overall fondness for the source material. In fact, it was pretty much the same reaction I had to Jackson's "King Kong" remake - sitting there watching everything on the screen and repeatedly thinking, "Boy, this just keeps going don't it." King Kong takes a giant nose-dive for me after he fights the T-Rexes. That was a great action sequence and then the rest of the film happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I still think King Kong is pretty handily his best film, but to each their own. These two Hobbit films have had a few sparks of life here and there, but boy do they drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I still think King Kong is pretty handily his best film, but to each their own. These two Hobbit films have had a few sparks of life here and there, but boy do they drag. It's honestly a film I have always meant to revisit on Blu Ray. I saw it during its DVD release and have not bothered to watch it since. Also, three friends sitting on a couch watching a three hour movie generally kills the enjoyment because we are thinking about whether we should start up a Texas hold em game or go back to playing Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 So, we saw the Battle of the Five Armies this afternoon. It really loses the story of the Dwarves and just become a war film, but it's the sort of war film where there's a huge battle going on just off-screen while the hero characters skirmish around it or have long one on one boss fights. But I liked it - it's just funny how you can slice heads off Orcs all day and still get a 12A (OK-for-kids-if-they're-with-an-adult certificate) so long as the heroes don't visibly bleed, even from serious injuries. The ending is really open ended. As in, there's things that happen between this and Fellowship that might be interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think there's anything left that Tolken wrote that Jackson hasn't put to screen yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Coming in December 2022, Peter Jackson's The Children of Hurin, part one of twelve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think there's anything left that Tolken wrote that Jackson hasn't put to screen yet. Well I guess there is still the Simarillion . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Bring it on. I am all for another 624 hours of these movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 MGM and WB only have rights to Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. So they can only film things referenced in those books. One thinks that sooner or later, something like the Silmarillion will get filmed. The Tolkien kids won't be around forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Christopher Tolkien flat out refuses to let them have any other middle earth stuff. Not sure about doing an original story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Yeah. I think all the films getting made are basically the result of Tolkien selling the film rights away a long time ago. If the Tolkien kids had their way, I don't think any of these movies would ever have gotten made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Random question but could the FanFiction ruling change any of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 As a side note, I figured out what was bothering me about the marketing for five armies. To anyone that didn't know the book, it has to be weird that the apparent big conflict left at the end of the last movie with the big fucking dragon is being completely ignored, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I only watched the 2nd movie maybe a month ago and, until you just mentioned that, those trailers had totally made me forget that the dragon was even a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Smaug is definitely taking the blame for the 2nd movie underperforming. They busted him down to curtain-jerker for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Even though the obvious reason is that people didn't really like the first movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Narratively, this is the most unfulfilling film. Tons of subplots are left unresolved. Characters appear and get established and then just disappear. It's like the theatrical cut of Return of the King. They build up Gothmog as this vicious orc leader that nearly topples Minas Tirith. Suddenly he just disappears after looking all scared when Aragorn and his undead army of wraiths show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well, that was pretty unsatisfying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 This gets extra points from me for the bit where Legolas gave Bolg a running hurricanrana off the side of a collapsing tower as it was falling down the side of a mountain. Agreed about the missing subplots although hopefully they will release an extended cut next year with extra footage. Fwiw this film was 'only' 2.5 hours long which is pretty short for a Jackson Tolkein film... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Saw this today, 2 hours of FIGHTS~! and and about half-hour of stuff. It was okay I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm pretty forgiving to this stuff and even i thought the rescue of Gandalf scene was terrible, full of a lot of stuff that we were better off never seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Just a shoulder shrug. Nothing new, FX wise, just made it more of the same. hordes of armies. Giant wacky creatures. Destroyed buildings. Just seen it all before. The only mildly surprising thing in the plot is the cowardly heel not getting comeuppance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Magnificent 7 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Was entertaining due to the battles. Best scene was elf-king guy's moose goreing 5 orcs and then elf guy lops off all their heads in one slice. Other than that, it was pretty devoid of any good cheer or humor. The cowardly heel I guess was supposed to be the comic relief, but you kept wondering why Bard and the other humans kept giving this slimeball important jobs to do. They would have banished him at the least after the crap he pulled during Smaug's destruction of Laketown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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