AEW TV - 5/22 - 5/28/2024 - Fill My Eyes, With That Double Vision!

[Technico Support]

2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

I would really like to see the full version of Malakai vs. KOR

I FULLY recommend getting a VPN (I use Proton VPN, which is like $50 for a year) and Triller (like $7 per month I think).  Connect to UK, join Triller, and Bob's Your Uncle as my fellow Britons say.  No commercials, witty commentator banter, and $20 PPVs.

[just drew]

KOR should go see whatever surgeon did Juice Robinson’s personality transplant, because that guy wouldn’t be interesting if he grew a third arm. It’s too bad, because between the ropes he’s great. 

[COLETTI]

1 minute ago, Just Dave said:

KOR should go see whatever surgeon did Juice Robinson’s personality transplant, because that guy wouldn’t be interesting if he grew a third arm. It’s too bad, because between the ropes he’s great. 

Honest question: why do you feel so comfortable saying shitty things about people? 

[just drew]

10 minutes ago, Coletti said:

Honest question: why do you feel so comfortable saying shitty things about people? 

I mean, I don’t think it’s controversial to assert that Kyle o Reilly has no personality. When faced with the choice of putting the nXt title on him or reset their entire show, wwe chose to reset the whole show. He’s a godawful promo and is as interesting as an audit. That doesn’t make him a bad person. 

[COLETTI]

Just now, Just Dave said:

I mean, I don’t think it’s controversial to assert that Kyle o Reilly has no personality. When faced with the choice of putting the nXt title on him or reset their entire show, wwe chose to reset the whole show. He’s a godawful promo and is as interesting as an audit. That doesn’t make him a bad person. 

That doesn't really answer my question, though. 

[John E. Dynamite]

I'm equally worried about anyone who says Juice needed any help in the personality department. Unless you're remarking on his NXT to NJPW superbabyface turn (and I still contend his babyface ceiling is a good bit higher), but even then - the CJ Parker heel turn proved he had SOMETHING.

[Nice Guy Eddie]

Juice was pretty dull when he first arrived in AEW. It wasn't until Jay White showed up that Juice's personality started to come out as a heel. 

Edited May 24, 2024 by Nice Guy Eddie

[NikoBaltimore]

57 minutes ago, Coletti said:

Honest question: why do you feel so comfortable saying shitty things about people? 

Believe it or not by his standards that might as well be a compliment. I think he's been a bit better but this is a bit harsh from him. 

As for Kyle this has been him from ROH on and that's quite okay. His Hey EW appearance shows he's got that Brad Armstrong vibe in that he seems way more charismatic off camera than on. He always seemed like he needs the right group and opponent to shine and he's had that happen throughout his career. But with all that happened as long as he's happy then good for him. 

Edited May 25, 2024 by NikoBaltimore

[COLETTI]

1 minute ago, NikoBaltimore said:

Believe it or not by his standards that might as well be a compliment. I think he's been a bit better but this is a bit harsh from him. 

As for Kyle this has been him from ROH on and that's quite okay. His Hey EW appearance shows he's got that Brad Armstrong vibe in that he seems way more charismatic off camera than on. He always seemed like he needs the right group and opponent to shine and he's had that happen throughout his career. But with all that happened s long as he's happy then good for him. 

I mean I get all that, I'm just curious what makes somebody feel so okay with typing out and posting such negativity against people - especially from somebody who, in the past, claimed to be working on these things so hopefully they'd have some sort of legitimate insight into that kind of mentality. 

[NikoBaltimore]

You got me there. I learned some time ago for my sake to just let that go. But you're not wrong. 

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

Audits are interesting, in an extremely stressful sort of way (she says as she wonders where her receipt booklet is).

[tbarrie]

25 minutes ago, Coletti said:

I mean I get all that, I'm just curious what makes somebody feel so okay with typing out and posting such negativity against people [...]

I honestly didn't see any excessive negativity in the post that started this. I mean, he was harsh in his assessment, yes, but he was clearly commenting on Kyle's abilities as a performer, not his personal qualities. The former is clearly fair game on a pro wrestling discussion board in my opinion.

[COLETTI]

1 minute ago, tbarrie said:

I honestly didn't see any excessive negativity in the post that started this. I mean, he was harsh in his assessment, yes, but he was clearly commenting on Kyle's abilities as a performer, not his personal qualities. The former is clearly fair game on a pro wrestling discussion board in my opinion.

You realize this isn't the first time and, as said by others, is fairly tame compared to other things dude's said in the past - but for me, since it's been the same thing for ages, I'm legitimately curious as to what makes a person feel comfortable writing and posting these things. 

[Curt McGirt]

I don't think Juicey Boy has EVER been dull. Even as a goofy face he's been anything but that.

[tbarrie]

56 minutes ago, Coletti said:

You realize this isn't the first time and, as said by others, is fairly tame compared to other things dude's said in the past - but for me, since it's been the same thing for ages, I'm legitimately curious as to what makes a person feel comfortable writing and posting these things. 

Vaguely, yes. But the timing of the question still seemed odd.

[COLETTI]

22 minutes ago, tbarrie said:

Vaguely, yes. But the timing of the question still seemed odd.

Possibly. I get that. Maybe Drew has been working on it and I haven't noticed, apologies if that's the case. I don't know, something about it set me off, I guess. 

[Gordi the BJW fan]

Drew is dealing with issues  He's posted openly about it before. He has a condition where if he doesn't like something he can't stop thinking about it in a negative way.

He's also narcissistic in the specific way where he honestly believes that if he (for example) is bothered by the perception that the Young Bucks have skinny arms and are acting cool then he is quite sure that EVERYONE must be bothered by that and is baffled when anyone disagrees with him. Again, it's something that he has posted about openly in the past. 

 

I can only imagine that that particular combination must make life more difficult in certain ways. I can only sympathize. 

 

At the same time, I also don't enjoy reading the constant and repetitive flood of negativity.

 

But Drew obviously has the right to keep posting here. Also obviously, it doesn't bother everyone the way it did me .

 

But it is real, and it is extremely unlikely to stop, or change. 

 

So, if it bugs you (as it does me) then it is 100% easier just to put him on ignore.

 

To Drew: I sincerely apologize if I got the specifics wrong. I'm going off of memory of a years-old conversation. Absolutely feel free to connect me. I won't read it but other people will (edit: turns out I did read it. Good post. It's easy to read posts from people you have on ignore, and it's easy to skip them).

 

To Colleti: From what I can remember, you are not imaging or exaggerating things here. I can certainly recall a LOT of genuinely mean-spirited and frequently personal negativity directed at whichever wrestlers and posters are rubbing Drew wrong on any given week. And whenever I see one of his comments quoted recently it sure seems like more of the same. 

 

Just put him (and, like, Vile One) on ignore.

Edited May 25, 2024 by Gordi the former AEW fan

[just drew]

12 minutes ago, Gordi the former AEW fan said:

Drew has issues  He's posted openly about it before. He has a condition where if he doesn't like something he can't stop thinking about it in a negative way.

He's also narcissistic in the specific way where he honestly believes that if he (for example) is bothered by the perception that the Young Bucks have skinny arms and are acting cool then he is quite sure that EVERYONE must be bothered by that and is baffled when anyone disagrees with him. Again, it's something that he has posted about openly in the past. 

 

I can only imagine that that particular combination must make life pretty difficult. I can only sympathize. 

 

At the same time, I also don't enjoy reading the constant and repetitive flood of negativity.

 

But Drew obviously has the right to keep posting here. Also obviously, it doesn't bother everyone the way it did me .

 

But it is real, and it is extremely unlikely to stop, or change. 

 

So, if it bugs you (as it does me) then it is 100% easier just to put him on ignore.

 

To Drew: I sincerely apologize if I got the specifics wrong. I'm going off of memory of a years-old conversation. Absolutely feel free to connect me. I won't read it but other people will 

 

To Colleti: From what I can remember, you are not imaging or exaggerating things here. I can certainly recall a LOT of genuinely mean-spirited and frequently personal negativity directed at whichever wrestlers and posters are rubbing Drew wrong on any given week. And whenever I see one of his comments quoted recently it sure seems like more of the same. 

 

Just put him (and, like, Vile One) on ignore.

I will say that I feel like I'm in a much better place mentally now than I was at the time we had that conversation. It has appeared over the last few months that I have found the right dosage of Vyvanse and Prozac so as to stop that cycle of rumination and anger. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I also appreciate @tbarrie pointing out that I didn't say anything about KOR the human being. By all accounts, he's a pretty good guy. He's just completely devoid of any trait that makes one a compelling television character. When I posted that earlier, I did break a rule that I set for myself a while back. I had been trying to also post the things I did like about the show so as to not focus solely on the negative. But for the life of me I can't figure out why people get so upset at how I choose to express my opinions regarding pro wrestlers on a pro wrestling message board. Fwiw, I also said I thought KOR is an excellent in-ring performer. I thought his match with Malakai Black was really compelling and... idk if "fun" is the right adjective for a match that hard hitting, but it was exciting and different than anything else on tv, and that's good imo. There's a place for Kyle O'Reilly in pro wrestling. I just find his shortcomings so glaring that they're impossible to ignore.

[Technico Support]

“As interesting as an audit” popped me, ngl.

Edited May 25, 2024 by Technico Support

[JLowe]

Anyway, Joe called Hook out on Rampage and nothing he said was wrong. I wish I could see Joe squash Hook, destroy the FTW title and throw it in the trash calling it a toy, and then Hook going on excursion to learn how to strike. Joe squashes an enhancement talent and I feel joy.

Rush does not get to squash Isiah Cassidy and it’s not interesting to me at all.

Pac is Wrestlebot 2024 and I don’t mean that as a compliment.

At least the women’s tag match was excellent. I still think Anna Jay should go to Japan for a few months, she could learn a lot there that might elevate her into the upper reaches of the card. She’s got character work down, just needs to take that next step. They let Alex Windsor have a prolonged heat segment with Stat, mostly during PiP. I want to commend Stat for taking a step back and really helping get Willow over as a main eventer. The post-match brawl with Mercedes and Willow is their first real back-and-forth physicality, an excellent tease to the PPV. The crowd was 80% for Willow.

[SovietShooter]

24 minutes ago, JLowe said:

Hook going on excursion to learn how to strike.

 

24 minutes ago, JLowe said:

I still think Anna Jay should go to Japan for a few months, she could learn a lot there that might elevate her into the upper reaches of the card

I think you've highlighted one of AEW's biggest problems in developing talent, which is they need to get the greenhorns reps, and they need it against quality workers, and away from the spotlight. The wrestling landscape has changed so much, and I get that AEW tried to do house shows and it just wasn't working. But the Hook/Anna Jay/Moriarty types need to be working 3-4 times a week off television. They absolutely need to send them on legitimate excursions - to Mexico, Japan - wherever they can get that much work. 

You can't tell me that a guy like Hook couldn't benefit from working a month-long cycle between big shows down in CMLL. Shiiiiit... send him down for six months, have him work and extended program with a guy like Titan or Atlantis Jr before losing his hair and coming back to AEW. I mean, if Matt Taven could headline Arena Mexico....

[AxB]

Lee Moriarty needs reps?

You haven't seen him outside of AEW, have you?

[Curt McGirt]

How was Rampage now? I didn't even notice it had recorded until like midnight. 

Edited May 25, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[Shartnado]

Wonderful episode of Dynamite. Opener gave the heel side some much needed heat.

All of the matches were at least good and crowd was into it.

The women's tag was actually very exciting. The Professor established herself as the heel here, afterwards.

Rey Fenix seemed to have gotten back into some serious shape. Good for him. OK, so Bang Bang Gang is now the actual official name of that group? They are not Bullet Club Gold at all, anymore?

O'Reilly vs Malakai was good and the ending was awesome. Kyle dropped like a sack of shit. Very well done! Also, that had to be the GORIEST "Blood Bath" I have ever seen.

Danielson dragged something interesting out of "Jason" Statham Singh, but a lot of it was also due to the goons outside. Aftermath was also good with Nick crying a river over being thrown through the table. "How could you do this to me!?" Oh shut up, you dipshit! You deserve every bit of it!

As usual, Double or Nothing is stacked all the way to hell!

[SovietShooter]

50 minutes ago, AxB said:

Lee Moriarty needs reps?

You haven't seen him outside of AEW, have you?

A bit... I know his trainer.

I just threw him in there as a younger guy, although he is working a lot of the high level indies and getting reps, like Nick Wayne. But any of those guys could still benefit from an excursion.