Curt McGirt Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Herb is one of those guys who had no filter. Thankfully he was really nice, and would just think his behavior was normal (and had behavior that would only harm himself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 in the scheme of things, if the promoter is doing more drugs than the talent, then the promotion will have some hard times 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: in the scheme of things, if the promoter is doing more drugs than the talent, then the promotion will have some hard times 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 9 hours ago, sabremike said: Someone needs to turn Herb screaming "Let's hear it for the Jews!!!" into a ringtone. The reactions of everyone around you would be priceless. Did it sing it t the tune of Denise Williams' "Let's Hear it for the Boy?" LETS HEAR IT FOR THE JEEEEEEEWS! LETS GIVE THE JEWS A HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! LETS HEAR IT FOR MY HEBREWS! YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I actually need a brief Dark Side of the Ring on the making of the Herb Abrams death scene in his Dark Side of the Ring. It was clear that they told the actor it that there was no half assing this one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, hammerva said: I actually need a brief Dark Side of the Ring on the making of the Herb Abrams death scene in his Dark Side of the Ring. It was clear that they told the actor it that there was no half assing this one. Zoogz Rift's son uploaded a video to YouTube of Zoogz talking about working for Herb (Zoogz died in 2011), and Zoogz heard what happened was Herb locked 6 hookers in his office, and they called the cops on him when he started destroying furniture and wouldn't let them leave. And then he died in the police car from a heart attack. Meltzer said in his writeup on Abrams' death that Abrams had done something similar three months prior in April 1996: Quote Police had found Abrams with cocaine in his office in an April arrest when he was allegedly holding a woman hostage and robbing her, and he was charged in that incident with unlawful imprisonment, assault and attempted rape in a case that was still pending. I think the moral of Herb's story is - Don't bounce checks to hookers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Technico Support said: Did it sing it t the tune of Denise Williams' "Let's Hear it for the Boy?" LETS HEAR IT FOR THE JEEEEEEEWS! LETS GIVE THE JEWS A HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! LETS HEAR IT FOR MY HEBREWS! YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Edited May 6, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 That Roster dude, Abrams UWF had a ton of potential but it seems Abrams himself loved to scam too much. Colonel Red seemed more shady than Abrams at least with Abrams he wore it on his sleeve. He was a scam artist but an affable scam artist. Mick, Brian, that Lenny guy, Sunny Beach and Steve Ray all seemed to hold a special place in their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Kris and Bix reposted the Abrams episode of BTS,for folks who want more Herb stories. did they talk about the jobber named after Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP Steve Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I felt really sorry for Lenny Duge. He seemed like such a nice, sort of naive guy and obviously really loved Herb Abrams. It was funny and sad to hear him talk about walking into the Manatee Civic Center and how it was the biggest arena he'd ever seen and wondering how on earth they could ever fill a place that big. The Manatee Civic Center seats about 4,000 people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, LP Steve said: I felt really sorry for Lenny Duge. He seemed like such a nice, sort of naive guy and obviously really loved Herb Abrams. It was funny and sad to hear him talk about walking into the Manatee Civic Center and how it was the biggest arena he'd ever seen and wondering how on earth they could ever fill a place that big. The Manatee Civic Center seats about 4,000 people. To be fair, if you're doing crowds of < 300, it may as well be The Big House or Neyland Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) I would like to know more about Abrams pre-UWF businesses. Did his large women's store do that well or was he born into money? Judging by the fact he always seemed to have large amounts of coke on him, I would assume he was dealing drugs at some point. Maybe he was a middle man for a real big time dealer. The Herb episode is on again tonight @ 9, so I'll probably flip between AEW and that. Edited May 6, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) My main takeaway from the Herb Abrams episode is an equation. Bob Morton from Robocop + Adam Sandler’s character from Uncut Gems + Pro Wrestling = Herb Abrams That line “Herb died doing what he loved most... cocaine and hookers” was perfectly delivered. Edited May 6, 2020 by Ultimo Necro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 considering the rest of the episode, would it shock anybody if Herb's store was a drug front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: considering the rest of the episode, would it shock anybody if Herb's store was a drug front? Nothing would shock me about Abrams after that episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) This is one of those episodes that definitely needs the companion podcast to go along with it, I'd imagine. UWF always confused me as an early internet wrestling fan, learning about new (old) promotions, because I'd always get it confused with UWFi and then go to watch clips and man those two couldn't be any different if they tried. Edited May 6, 2020 by Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Last night was the third highest rated episode of the series with 246k. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 MAKE THE TV MOVIE, DAMMIT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Vice should buy the rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Missy Hyatt Tweeted that she will be on After Dark for Herb. Should be fun, she's a great Twitter follow when it comes to knowledge and opinions of older stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 I'm sure Missy would have been happy getting paid in coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 hours ago, odessasteps said: Kris and Bix reposted the Abrams episode of BTS,for folks who want more Herb stories. did they talk about the jobber named after Dave? I don't know if Davey Meltzer was mentioned in Part 1 of the BTS that was available in the free section. Bix did post a video and BTS audio that really is a great synopsis of UWF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Poor wording on my part. i meant did they mention the Dave jobber on Dark Side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I would like to know more about Abrams pre-UWF businesses. Did his large women's store do that well or was he born into money? His father had a women's clothing business in Manhattan and a store in Queens. His name was Abram Abrams (I shit you not) and when Bill Apter first met Herb circa-1976, that's where he was working. Herb started some business called Network '9' Limited in 1982 that had a storefront in Los Angeles (nightclub? clothing store?). He didn't start I'm a Big Girl Now until 1988. He got married in 1989, and then his father died right after. After watching this and then watching The Last Dance, I can't help but think Herb's shot at wrestling might have been a "let's do this for dad" moment like Jordan had with baseball. Also possible he received a large inheritance and blew it all in spectacular fashion. Edited May 7, 2020 by saveholmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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