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http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame

 

 

Look through those and tell me Jackie isn't as worthy as a good number of those people, including jobbers and people that never even worked for Vince. Let's not pretend the WWE HOF is super prestigious. It has a convicted rapist, drug addicts, philanderers, racists, animal and spouse abusers, drunks, felons.

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You know how they put Pete Rose into the WWE HoF because he's not in the Baseball one? Motorhead still aren't in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. And I think you can excuse the posthumous induction ratio on this score.

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I certainly hope it's fake, as it's underwhelming, and I will ask again and pray for an answer: why does anyone think Jacqueline belongs in the HoF?

 

- First African American WWE Women's Champion

- Good to decent runs in USWA, WCW, and WWE

- Former Cruiserweight Champion (yeah, I know that one is kind of whatever)

- She was pretty good in the ring and probably the most underrated woman during the Attitude Era

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http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame

Look through those and tell me Jackie isn't as worthy as a good number of those people, including jobbers and people that never even worked for Vince. Let's not pretend the WWE HOF is super prestigious. It has a convicted rapist, drug addicts, philanderers, racists, animal and spouse abusers, drunks, felons.

Which sports/medi HOF doesn't have those things?

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http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame

Look through those and tell me Jackie isn't as worthy as a good number of those people, including jobbers and people that never even worked for Vince. Let's not pretend the WWE HOF is super prestigious. It has a convicted rapist, drug addicts, philanderers, racists, animal and spouse abusers, drunks, felons.

Which sports/medi HOF doesn't have those things?

 

Shit, TNA's HOF has only been around a couple of years and ticks most of those boxes already.

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http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame

 

 

Look through those and tell me Jackie isn't as worthy as a good number of those people, including jobbers and people that never even worked for Vince. Let's not pretend the WWE HOF is super prestigious. It has a convicted rapist, drug addicts, philanderers, racists, animal and spouse abusers, drunks, felons.

 

So, let literally anyone into the Hall of Fame? "More noteworthy than Koko B. Ware" isn't a great criterion. Also, WWE clearly views their Hall as being a general wrestling HoF, so I don't know why anyone still bothers pointing out who did or did not work for Vince. It's irrelevant.

 

 

I certainly hope it's fake, as it's underwhelming, and I will ask again and pray for an answer: why does anyone think Jacqueline belongs in the HoF?

 

- First African American WWE Women's Champion

- Good to decent runs in USWA, WCW, and WWE

- Former Cruiserweight Champion (yeah, I know that one is kind of whatever)

- She was pretty good in the ring and probably the most underrated woman during the Attitude Era

 

Faint praise. She, Tori, and Ivory were working with a bunch of non-wrestlers. And there are tons of people who worked USWA/WCW/WWE that will never sniff the Hall. I'm just not seeing it. She certainly shouldn't be in before Sable.

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Jackie's a perfectly fine choice. She fits the tone and tenor of the HOF pretty well. There's a number of women at about that level, be it Ivory or Molly or Jazz, and I think there's no harm in adding any of them. 

 

It's Godfather that would be an absolute shit show.

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Papa Shango ruled so hard, Wright should get in.

I am mostly serious about that.

Actually, between Shango, NOD Kama, and Godfather (I was 16, so forgive me for enjoying that gimmick), he had three gimmicks that from my narrow viewpoint I find particularly notable in WWE history. I would be fine with his inclusion.

Also, he made the Warrior drip with voodoo blood once. VOODOO BLOOD!

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It's not that I think that Wright isn't notable or storied enough to get in based on precedent and relative importance; he is. 

 

It's that I think he's monumentally stupid to put in. Hunter's worried about people googling Chyna or whatever. Maybe putting in the guy most renown for a portraying a pimp is a bad choice? 

 

Chyna made her own decisions. Wright's character was a WWE decision. 

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I see where you're coming from, Matt.

 

I don't believe Hunter's excuse for not putting Chyna in the HoF, though. It's a smokescreen. First, he doesn't want Chyna up there giving a speech about her time in the company, which ended with HHH cheating on her with Stephanie. He doesn't want to risk being put on blast in a speech on their prestigious HoF show. I'm sure Stephanie doesn't, either. 

 

He's also a petty dude, the type of dude that said fifteen or so years after it happened that he wouldn't be as stupid as Bret was in not seeing the screwjob coming, so I'm sure he's also sticking the knives in a bit as well because that's what he does, much like Vince. 

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It's not that I think that Wright isn't notable or storied enough to get in based on precedent and relative importance; he is. 

 

It's that I think he's monumentally stupid to put in. Hunter's worried about people googling Chyna or whatever. Maybe putting in the guy most renown for a portraying a pimp is a bad choice? 

 

Chyna made her own decisions. Wright's character was a WWE decision. 

 

Yeah, but googling Wright doesn't lead to actual porn, googling Chyna does.

But let's be real here, Triple H doesn't really worry about children googling Chyna and finding porn.

What he's really worrying about is seeing headlines like "WWE inducts pornstar into Hall of Fame" in the media.

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WWE inducts fake pimp isn't much better. And he may not really believe it but he said it so he has to stay consistent. He's smart enough to know that.

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I'm still curious why Cyndi Lauper's not in.

Isn't there still a little bitterness on all sides about the Wendi Richter thing and that it ended up uncerimounsly ending Lauper's connection to the WWE right away?

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It's not that I think that Wright isn't notable or storied enough to get in based on precedent and relative importance; he is. 

 

It's that I think he's monumentally stupid to put in. Hunter's worried about people googling Chyna or whatever. Maybe putting in the guy most renown for a portraying a pimp is a bad choice? 

 

Chyna made her own decisions. Wright's character was a WWE decision. 

 

Yeah, but googling Wright doesn't lead to actual porn, googling Chyna does.

But let's be real here, Triple H doesn't really worry about children googling Chyna and finding porn.

What he's really worrying about is seeing headlines like "WWE inducts pornstar into Hall of Fame" in the media.

 

But 'WWE Hall of Famer signs porn deal' is that much better>

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It's not that I think that Wright isn't notable or storied enough to get in based on precedent and relative importance; he is. 

 

It's that I think he's monumentally stupid to put in. Hunter's worried about people googling Chyna or whatever. Maybe putting in the guy most renown for a portraying a pimp is a bad choice? 

 

Chyna made her own decisions. Wright's character was a WWE decision. 

 

Yeah, but googling Wright doesn't lead to actual porn, googling Chyna does.

But let's be real here, Triple H doesn't really worry about children googling Chyna and finding porn.

What he's really worrying about is seeing headlines like "WWE inducts pornstar into Hall of Fame" in the media.

 

But 'WWE Hall of Famer signs porn deal' is that much better>

 

 

They don't have any control over what their former employees are doing. I'm sure they would have preferred not to see that headline either.

 

I still think there's a big difference between portraying a pimp on television and participating in actual porn.

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The difference between Sunny and Chyna is that Sunny's already in.

 

I mean, I agree with everyone else that the porn thing is just a convenient excuse for Chyna. But if Sunny wasn't already in, I think the porn would keep her out in the future.

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I'm still curious why Cyndi Lauper's not in.

Isn't there still a little bitterness on all sides about the Wendi Richter thing and that it ended up uncerimounsly ending Lauper's connection to the WWE right away?

She did the angle with Slater a couple years back, so it doesn't seem like bitterness or refusal are likely.

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I'm still curious why Cyndi Lauper's not in.

Isn't there still a little bitterness on all sides about the Wendi Richter thing and that it ended up uncerimounsly ending Lauper's connection to the WWE right away?

Both Lauper and Richter have appeared on WWE TV in the last 5 years so whatever bitterness that is/was there is gone.

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The difference between Sunny and Chyna is that Sunny's already in.

 

I mean, I agree with everyone else that the porn thing is just a convenient excuse for Chyna. But if Sunny wasn't already in, I think the porn would keep her out in the future.

 

Sunny was part of a topless softcore site with Missy Hyatt long before she was inducted, IIRC, so even that doesn't really wash.

 

Congrats to your Panthers from a Seahawks fan, by the way. 

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