The Nature Boy Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Can someone explain the point of Mel Kiper Jr.? His whole thing seems to be forecasting the NFL Draft. How does one make a career out of THAT?
Brian Fowler Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Back in the day, he was the only guy really doing it, which helped. And now he's an institution at the four letter. 1
The Nature Boy Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 How do I get a shit ton of high school baseball tapes so I can become baseball's Mel Kiper?
elizium Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 How do I get a shit ton of high school baseball tapes so I can become baseball's Mel Kiper? Just don't google "high school boy tapes". 5
Raziel Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 How do I get a shit ton of high school baseball tapes so I can become baseball's Mel Kiper? Just don't google "high school boy tapes". 2
hammerva Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Yeah remember that whole Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno pedophile thing at Penn State. Well never mind thanks to the NCAA today http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12179571/joe-paterno-111-wins-were-vacated-restored
Super Ape Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 In a few weeks the NCAA will spring Sandusky out of jail, round up his victims, and give them back to him. And this is why I haven't watched a college sporting event of any kind since Emmert and co. went soft on giving Penn State the death penalty.
Mister TV Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Yeah remember that whole Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno pedophile thing at Penn State. Well never mind thanks to the NCAA today http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12179571/joe-paterno-111-wins-were-vacated-restored Disgusting! Also, with how corrupt the state of Pennsylvania is that $60 million will be going into politicians pockets not to help abused kids.
The Nature Boy Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I saw JoePa's wins getting returned eventually. The NCAA just wanted to appear tough until the dust settled.
Josh Mann Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 The worst part is the Happy Valley cultists who somehow feel that this vindicates the Paternos' assessment that JoePa and by extension the program never should have been punished in the first place. This might have been the worst scandal to ever occur (and I include Baylor, SMU and Boston College in that statement) and the NCAA is in the long run giving Penn State the same punishment schools get for Level 2 recruiting violations. Fuck Mark Emmert and the organization he rode in on.
Death From Above Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Of all the things that could have happened to that school I always found pretending Paterno's wins didn't happen to be the least damaging, most childish option possible. 1
Super Ape Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Anything less than the death penalty was an endorsement of what happened in Happy Valley, and the explosion of Kool-Aid drinking morons on my Facebook feed proves this. I will explicitly forbid my children from going to Penn State; I'd forbid them from going to ANY NCAA school, but that's just impossible. I will hold this over that college's head until my last breath.
Brian Fowler Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Thing is, this NEVER fell under the NCAA'S jurisdiction. They never had any real grounds to punish PSU. That said, fuck Paterno.
Super Ape Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Loss of institutional control. Or think of it like this; you think the recruits that made Penn State Linebacker U. would have jumped on board if word got out or was even RUMORED that one of the defensive coaches was a pedophile?
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 I don't know why the NCAA even bothered. I mean, I know WHY they did it--to look tough when 1) they really weren't and 2) had little to no domain to do such a thing. But to take the wins, only to give them back? What a waste of time. If the NCAA was really serious about doing something, they should have shut down Penn State's football program for two years. Force the university to do a true clean sweep throughout the athletic department. Make the school put money toward a legitimate grant to help those traumatized by child molestation. PSU would eventually regain their program. Yeah, it'd hurt a lot. But it would actually resonate thoughout Happy Valley how serious the situation is. And being raped by someone you trusted hurts a million times more. So, when does the NCAA officially cease operation? Because it's already dead.
Super Ape Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 The NCAA will never die, who else is going to throw the book whenever a football player gets seconds at dinner or makes money off an autograph?
Tabe Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Once the emails came out where the NCAA admitted this was all a bluff - their word - and they had no jurisdiction, this outcome was a foregone conclusion. 2
Brian Fowler Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 There is no NCAA bylaws that deal with the coach being a pedophile. It doesn't even fall into the institutional control issue, because it's not about the program not following NCAA rules. They had no authority to do what they did, and they knew it. But again, I can't stress this enough: Fuck Joe Paterno.
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 I don't claim to know what's in the NCAA handbook--but there isn't anything on record about knowingly putting people in danger? Because allowing Sandusky to remain on campus did just that.
Josh Mann Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Unfortunately the NCAA Big Book O' Rulez is not the constitution, so things like a legitimate criminal conspiracy (which this was- at absolute minimum it was obstuction of justice by more than one party) aren't open to interpretation.
Raziel Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 I know the sanction were toothless to begin with, but knowing PSU alumn... Penn State is the single example of everything that's wrong with the college football culture, and their fans may be the single worst group of fans in the world.
Josh Mann Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 RT @FauxPelini Add the restoration of his 111 wins to the list of things Joe Paterno never saw 8
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Auburn has purchased Rivals.com #1 recruit Byron Cowart from Florida.
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