J.T. Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: But considering The Bruiser passed away I don't know what will happen with MCW. I'm sure they'll still be around once restrictions are lifted but it won't be the same. With any luck, John Minadakis from Jimmy's Famous Seafood will continue to be a big money mark and the fed will survive somehow. AFAIK, Gillberg's wrestling school in Severn is still scraping by on MMA money, so there is at least one place where new talent can go to train. Edited November 16, 2020 by J.T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, J.T. said: With any luck, John Minadakis from Jimmy's Famous Seafood will continue to be a big money mark and the fed will survive somehow. AFAIK, Gillberg's wrestling school in Severn is still scraping by on MMA money, so there is at least one place where new talent can go to train. Damn, I forgot about the training school. I think you're right about Gillberg's school being a good place to train at now. As for Johnny Crabcakes as long as he doesn't "wrestle" if he helps keep them going then he'll be okay in my book. Edited November 16, 2020 by NikoBaltimore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Final Battle will be held Dec 18 While not having fans - they still better hope Maryland doesn't completely close up by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 December 18th? They'll be lucky if Maryland is even open by December 1st let alone the 18th. As it is they may be screwed since there's to be no gatherings above 25 people. And even if they find a way to space it out by the 18th I would imagine it'll be further limited to 10 people and possibly beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler of Culture Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I love this PURE tournament. Scientific wresting combined with worked wrestling maneuvers and a change of rules to differentiate it from anything else. Really loved Tracy Williams vs. Fred Yehi match. The rules allow for new stories to be told and they told some great ones. Watching it you start to get interested in one facet of the match and then forget that both guys were going to run out of rope breaks. But they did smart things like Yehi and Williams still blocking holds even though they had 2-3 rope breaks left in the match. The selling is better and different and I don't have to watch guys thigh slap worked punches. The promos aren't bad, but they're not good. Reminds me a lot of HHH type promos where it's a generic paint by numbers of how a wrestler cuts a promo But as far as the tourney, god bless this stuff. Glad I'm getting caught up on it. HoC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Woods vs Lethal this week was damn good. Taylor vs Brody was good big man stuff. Still feel like ROH should drop the straight wrestling matches and go 100% pure, even if it means dropping a bunch of folks. Gotta be a way to make it work with tags as well. One issue I have with the pure stuff- why hasn't someone figured out that while fists to the face are so bad, any other kind of cheating isn't punished any differently than regular rules- why not rake the eyes? Edited November 29, 2020 by alstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I've read that every title is to be on the line but there is no card yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 5:49 AM, alstein said: Woods vs Lethal this week was damn good. Taylor vs Brody was good big man stuff. That was the first time I ever really paid attention to Josh Woods and this was good. I dig that he is annoying and a great technical wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 10:15 AM, NikoBaltimore said: December 18th? They'll be lucky if Maryland is even open by December 1st let alone the 18th. As it is they may be screwed since there's to be no gatherings above 25 people. And even if they find a way to space it out by the 18th I would imagine it'll be further limited to 10 people and possibly beyond. Maybe I am looking wrong but it seems from the background of the TV show that you can see that they are doing their TV tapings in that college in Bel Air where NXT started running. So they have a building but it will probably be empty arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, hammerva said: Maybe I am looking wrong but it seems from the background of the TV show that you can see that they are doing their TV tapings in that college in Bel Air where NXT started running. So they have a building but it will probably be empty arena. Hold up. Are you telling me that ROH, born and raised in Philadelphia, has moved to Bel Air after their life got flipped-turned upside down (by Covid)? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Would I be crazy if I said that RoH has been the best post-lockdown promotion in the world? Many other promotions had higher highs than RoH in these past few months, but I don't think that any other promotion has been so consistently enjoyable. Pure tournament was a blast and I'd say that majority of what we saw in post tournament TV episodes has been good to great as well. Now all they need is to deliver a good Final Battle PPV to cap it off. On 11/29/2020 at 9:31 PM, Six String Orchestra said: I've read that every title is to be on the line but there is no card yet. Some matches have been set up during last couple of weeks: Rush/Brody for RoH world title EC3/Jay Briscoe Taven/Bennett vs Vincent/Bateman Mark Briscoe in a promo said that he wants to get back tag titles so we are probably getting Mark/X vs Gresham/Lethal for tag titles. From what I recall, before lockdown, Shane Taylor + SoS had trios titles shot so that might be a match as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Whatever username Ian is on here he will be popping for this response 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler of Culture Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Archibald said: Would I be crazy if I said that RoH has been the best post-lockdown promotion in the world? Many other promotions had higher highs than RoH in these past few months, but I don't think that any other promotion has been so consistently enjoyable. Pure tournament was a blast and I'd say that majority of what we saw in post tournament TV episodes has been good to great as well. Now all they need is to deliver a good Final Battle PPV to cap it off. Some matches have been set up during last couple of weeks: Rush/Brody for RoH world title EC3/Jay Briscoe Taven/Bennett vs Vincent/Bateman Mark Briscoe in a promo said that he wants to get back tag titles so we are probably getting Mark/X vs Gresham/Lethal for tag titles. From what I recall, before lockdown, Shane Taylor + SoS had trios titles shot so that might be a match as well. I don't think that's crazy at all, I think it's spot on. HoC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, hammerva said: Maybe I am looking wrong but it seems from the background of the TV show that you can see that they are doing their TV tapings in that college in Bel Air where NXT started running. So they have a building but it will probably be empty arena. ROH: UMBC Event Center in Baltimore (UMBC's basketball arena) NXT: APG Federal Credit Union Arena in Bel Air 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 hours ago, DEAN said: That was the first time I ever really paid attention to Josh Woods and this was good. I dig that he is annoying and a great technical wrestler. I've been a fan ever since seeing his match with Dan Severn at a Wrestlecade 3 years ago- though he was playing underdog in a face vs face match there. Was getting mad folks were shitting on it there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler of Culture Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2nd time I've seen Tracy Williams. I thought he had a near 5* match against Yehi. His match against Lethal wasn't as good, but still really darn good. I personally love the booking. Going a little off topic, I remember years ago thinking that The Sopranos showed how to 'book' a swerve that can work in wrestling. Basically when Janice shot Richie was the swerve as it was evident that Richie and Tony would square off and that would lead to Richie's demise. But Janice shot him and it shocked everybody...however, it made perfect sense as Richie was showing signs of being abusive to Janice and Janice was an unstable, take no shit from anybody type of person who was just assaulted by Richie. Anyway, that's what the booking here reminded me of...although far less salacious. It was evident that it would be Lethal vs. Gresham...but Willliams won in an upset. But he deserved it, his matches have been great. And it elevates Williams and likely doesn't hurt Lethal who is over anyway. HoC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbo_Tsuruta Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I've really enjoyed ROH post-covid, Williams v Yehi in particular. Looking forward to Final Battle. I know many people don't like the vibe of empty arenas (understandable) but I feel that environment suits the stripped-down style (same with a match like Walter v Dragunov) more than WWE and AEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Watched the latest episode, both matches were fun. I'm guessing Josh Woods will be Mark's tag partner? Because that's the ultimate bro team. The commentary team is so good. Their not perfect but I appreciate it sounding more MMA style, treating it as a combat sport. Adds to the new direction so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Updated card: ROH World Television Title #1 Contendership Match Dak Draper vs. LSG vs. Tony Deppen vs. Josh Woods Singles Match Jay Briscoe vs. EC3 ROH Pure Title Match Jonathan Gresham (c) vs. ??? ROH World Six Man Tag Team Title Match MexiSquad (Bandido, Flamita & Rey Horus) (c) vs. Shane Taylor Promotions (Jasper Kaun, Moses Maddox & Shane Taylor) ROH World Tag Team Title Match Jay Lethal & Jonathan Gresham (c) vs. Mark Briscoe & ??? ROH World Television Title Match Dragon Lee (c) vs. Winner of 4 Way ROH World Title Match Rush (c) vs. Brody King Source: https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/121820-final-battle Would like to see who is filling out the remaining openings but card is coming together nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 ROH had Mark Briscoe announcing he's teaming up with PCO! ...then they had one of their nondescript beardo wrestlers saying his fave is John Walters, of all people. ...and then Sinclair had a flag-wave commercial for their "news" and then I changed the channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) So I said that RoH has been actually very good for a while now and what do they do with their next TV episode? Obviously, they shit the bed. PCO in tag titles match and Flip Gordon in Pure title match. Fuck off. Edited December 6, 2020 by Archibald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Archibald said: So I said that RoH has been actually very good for a while now and what do they do with their next TV episode? Obviously, they shit the bed. PCO in tag titles match and Flip Gordon in Pure title match. Fuck off. I guess I should be thankful there is no last minute Bully Ray street fight added but yeah, Flip in the pure title match is awful. No Wheeler Yuta? No Tracy Williams? I'd rather see John Walters! Hopefully Gresham just chokes him out in 30 seconds so he can go back to retweeting conspiracy theories. PCO is fine, he did win the main title last year at Final Battle, mine as well be in a tag match where he won't be doing all the work. I'm not psyched for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 So I don't know if this has shown on TV as I haven't watched the last 3 weeks but apparently the Foundation now includes Rhett Titus. Because apparently you can't have a faction in ROH without either Kenny King or Rhett Titus in it. and in some really bad cases both. I mean I guess it is good for Lethal as he isn't the worst member of the group now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Per ROH's website Bandido, EC3, Flamita and Kenny King are off Final Battle due to "covid pre-travel testing". Changes will be announced during the pre-show so I presume they are waiting to see if anyone else ends up having to be removed. Also added is Fred Yehi/Wheeler Yuta vs Tracy Williams/Rhett Titus in a tag team pure wrestling rules match. Glad Yehi and Yuta ended up on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I wonder what was on Flip's vest that Sinclair decided to blur out when he was walking to the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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