DJ Hero Morganti Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Kevin Owens has done that sort of thing I'm pretty sure. And Chuck Taylor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 2:56 PM, Goodear said: That's quite the non sequitur. How so? Taka is ZSJ's hype man in Suzuki-Gun. Surely, ZSJ would stand up for Taka if it came down to Taka vs. JBL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 13 hours ago, AxB said: Anyone ever do the Universal Symbol for a Moonsault, go up to the top rope, and then trollishly just drop back with a non-flipping Elbowdrop? Someone should. I swear I remember some luchadors doing that in WCW, and me being “Hey wait a minute”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marty Sugar Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 16 hours ago, AxB said: I wasn't saying anything about money, I was talking about art. Ideally, the promotion that paid the most money would also be the one that produced the best product, but that's not the case, is it? Lowest Common Denominator for the big money shows. If you take a guy who was having four star matches on the indies, spend months teaching him how to wrestle 'better', and afterwards he's improved to where he now tops out at two and a half stars maximum, that's not a positive development in my book. Notwithstanding some indie guys did end up getting the leeway to have good WWE matches eventually, but not all of them. But what I'm saying is, as a Wrestling fan, would you rather watch a series of Austin Aries matches from WWE, or a series of Austin Aries matches from ROH & Impact? Would you rather watch Seth Rollins matches or Tyler Black matches? Jon Moxley matches or Dean Ambrose matches? That's what I'm getting at. Art is subjective. You have the right to like whatever you want and I support that. The snark towards other forms of "the art" is unnecessary and tired, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I would rather watch Seth Rollins than Tyler Black, and I would definitely rather watch NXT Kyle O'Reilly than the store brand Davey Richards version of Kyle O'Reilly from the indies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Edwin Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 57 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: I would rather watch Seth Rollins than Tyler Black, and I would definitely rather watch NXT Kyle O'Reilly than the store brand Davey Richards version of Kyle O'Reilly from the indies. I would say this for Undisputed ERA entirely. Cole, Fish, Strong and O'Reilly to me are much better in NXT than they were on the indys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, mattdangerously said: I would rather watch Seth Rollins than Tyler Black, and I would definitely rather watch NXT Kyle O'Reilly than the store brand Davey Richards version of Kyle O'Reilly from the indies. Hmmmmmmmm... I would take wannabe Shibata O’Reilly over those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Mongo was so bad-ass then. Gets hardway juice from the briefcase shot and doesn't even sell it in his postmatch promo because he's SO DAMNED ANGRY while the hard camera zooms out to Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, mattdangerously said: I would rather watch Seth Rollins than Tyler Black, and I would definitely rather watch NXT Kyle O'Reilly than the store brand Davey Richards version of Kyle O'Reilly from the indies. Kyle's improvement began teaming with Bobby Fish. NXT has brought Kyle's personality out for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Edwin said: I would say this for Undisputed ERA entirely. Cole, Fish, Strong and O'Reilly to me are much better in NXT than they were on the indys. I think they're better as a whole than individually. I've always liked Roderick as part of a group better than on his own, going back to Generation Next. I thought his fratboy jock personality shined during his run as the leader of the No Remorse Corps. I definitely like Fish and O'Reilly better as ReDRagon and with the UE. Cole doesn't necessarily need to be part of a group, but it doesn't hurt him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Fowler Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Without taking sides, an exact quote from me before leaving an ROH show before the main event: "Yeah, let's go. I have no desire to see Tyler Black wrestle." And we left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Edwin said: I would say this for Undisputed ERA entirely. Cole, Fish, Strong and O'Reilly to me are much better in NXT than they were on the indys. They are exactly the same from their time in ROH. Except Roderick was a million times better as the heel ace of PWG. Kyle was mugging it up as a stooging heel and then fun babyface near the end of the ReDragon run in ROH before his last big singles push. They've changed nothing except for place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Roderick Strong has been a fucking great wrestler for years upon years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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