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Killer Kross beating Nick Gage in a "shoot fight" at Bloodsport and then Kross challenging BATISTA fior the next Bloodsport is very 2019

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So, details are a little sketchy at the moment, but apparently, Big Cass had some sort of meltdown at an indy show tonight, threatened to murder Joey Janela, and got knocked out by Pat Buck during a locker room rampage. 

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From PWInsider I think----- A backstage incident with former WWE star Big Cass marred last night’s WrestlePro farewell for owner Pat Buck, who was officially wrestling his last match for the promotion after signing on with World Wrestling Entertaining as a Producer. 
 
PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources that were present that Cass, who was booked as an unadvertised surprise to appear in a battle royal, was acting “aggressive and erratic” backstage over the course of the evening, leading to several incidents and finally, his expulsion from the Rahway Rec Center in Rahway, NJ. 
 
At one point, Cass confronted AEW star Joey Janela in a threatening manner, looking for a physical confrontation, apparently stemming from Janela’s run-in several months back with Enzo Amore at a Blink 182 concert in New Jersey. One source believed Cass slapped Janela, but we were not able to confirm that. The irony over the situation, we are told, is that Cass and Janela had been in the same locker room the night before for Northeast Wrestling and there had been zero issues at all. 
 
Cass was approached by WrestlePro’s Kevin Matthews, who defused the situation for the moment. Cass continued to be loud and belligerent to the point that Dan Maff warned WrestlePro that if Cass wasn’t calmed down, he was going to have to step in and handle the situation himself. Maff is known for being an extreme professional backstage, so that he even intimated he was at the point he wanted to take care of the situation was a huge sign Cass was in the wrong. WrestlePro later had Maff and Janela, who were wrestling on the show, moved to a private room so they could call their match without distraction and to keep Cass separated from them. 
 
However, Cass’ behavior didn’t stop there as he, according to four different sources, made his way through the locker room accusing several of stealing a sweater he owned and began threatening that he was going to “take care” of the entire locker room. 
 
This continued until Cass ended up in a smaller backstage room with AEW stars SCU and Pat Buck, who were in the middle of putting together their main event match for the event. Cass began accusing everyone in the room of stealing his belongings and acting in a threatening manner. He then turned to Buck, who was sitting and said, “What are you going to do, tough guy?” and spit in Buck’s face. 
 
Buck, with no recourse as he was backed against a wall, punched Cass and took him down with that one punch. Buck then grabbed Cass and controlled him on the floor as other wrestlers stormed in and pulled Cass out of the room. We are told that the second Cass was down on the floor, his entire demeanor changed as he went from aggressive and threatening to questioning why he was hit and asking what was going on. 
 
Local police who were in the building (the Rahway police station is next door to the Rahway Rec Center so whenever there is a wrestling show, there are tons of on duty and off duty officers who stop by to visit) were asked to escort Cass from the building. Cass was removed and Buck’s farewell went on as planned. The consensus in the locker room that Cass was completely unprofessional. Some were so angry over the situation that there was a belief that had Cass remained in the locker room, there were several who were willing to physically throw him out(or worse) themselves. There was a lot of sympathy for Buck given what tonight meant to him personally and because he was placed in a situation where he had zero choice but to defend himself against someone much bigger that was disrespecting the locker room. 
 
PWInsider.com was later told by several fans that even after being ejected, Cass remained outside the venue after WrestlePro ended and that it appeared local police were searching his car. At one point, Cass sat down on the sidewalk and according to three different fans we heard from (including one who sent the pictured below), began loudly making remarks about himself to the point that concerned authorities called for an ambulance to take Cass to transport him to a local hospital.  
12:44 AM bobholly138: A backstage incident with former WWE star Big Cass marred last night’s WrestlePro farewell for owner Pat Buck, who was officially wrestling his last match for the promotion after signing on with World Wrestling Entertaining as a Producer. 
 
PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources that were present that Cass, who was booked as an unadvertised surprise to appear in a battle royal, was acting “aggressive and erratic” backstage over the course of the evening, leading to several incidents and finally, his expulsion from the Rahway Rec Center in Rahway, NJ. 
 
At one point, Cass confronted AEW star Joey Janela in a threatening manner, looking for a physical confrontation, apparently stemming from Janela’s run-in several months back with Enzo Amore at a Blink 182 concert in New Jersey. One source believed Cass slapped Janela, but we were not able to confirm that. The irony over the situation, we are told, is that Cass and Janela had been in the same locker room the night before for Northeast Wrestling and there had been zero issues at all. 
 
Cass was approached by WrestlePro’s Kevin Matthews, who defused the situation for the moment. Cass continued to be loud and belligerent to the point that Dan Maff warned WrestlePro that if Cass wasn’t calmed down, he was going to have to step in and handle the situation himself. Maff is known for being an extreme professional backstage, so that he even intimated he was at the point he wanted to take care of the situation was a huge sign Cass was in the wrong. WrestlePro later had Maff and Janela, who were wrestling on the show, moved to a private room so they could call their match without distraction and to keep Cass separated from them. 
 
However, Cass’ behavior didn’t stop there as he, according to four different sources, made his way through the locker room accusing several of stealing a sweater he owned and began threatening that he was going to “take care” of the entire locker room. 
 
This continued until Cass ended up in a smaller backstage room with AEW stars SCU and Pat Buck, who were in the middle of putting together their main event match for the event. Cass began accusing everyone in the room of stealing his belongings and acting in a threatening manner. He then turned to Buck, who was sitting and said, “What are you going to do, tough guy?” and spit in Buck’s face. 
 
Buck, with no recourse as he was backed against a wall, punched Cass and took him down with that one punch. Buck then grabbed Cass and controlled him on the floor as other wrestlers stormed in and pulled Cass out of the room. We are told that the second Cass was down on the floor, his entire demeanor changed as he went from aggressive and threatening to questioning why he was hit and asking what was going on. 
 
Local police who were in the building (the Rahway police station is next door to the Rahway Rec Center so whenever there is a wrestling show, there are tons of on duty and off duty officers who stop by to visit) were asked to escort Cass from the building. Cass was removed and Buck’s farewell went on as planned. The consensus in the locker room that Cass was completely unprofessional. Some were so angry over the situation that there was a belief that had Cass remained in the locker room, there were several who were willing to physically throw him out(or worse) themselves. There was a lot of sympathy for Buck given what tonight meant to him personally and because he was placed in a situation where he had zero choice but to defend himself against someone much bigger that was disrespecting the locker room. 
 
PWInsider.com was later told by several fans that even after being ejected, Cass remained outside the venue after WrestlePro ended and that it appeared local police were searching his car. At one point, Cass sat down on the sidewalk and according to three different fans we heard from (including one who sent the pictured below), began loudly making remarks about himself to the point that concerned authorities called for an ambulance to take Cass to transport him to a local hospital.
 

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He might as well hang 'em up then. If he got in the face of AEW's head of talent relations and a WWE producer, he's done unless Impact throws him a bone.

 

 

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Does Cass have some sort of drug problem or mental issue?

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He's acknowledged a history of depression and anxiety

 

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Damn, Cass seemed like he was starting to pull his shit together and earning some goodwill back. I definitely think he didn't deserve the push he had been getting in WWE just yet before his departure, but I was hopeful him sorting his life together was happening and he was building some positive momentum to at least salvage something out of the potential he did have.

But on the positive side, I can imagine the level of respect Pat Buck may get from veterans of the WWE locker room that are used to chewing up new producers alive - especially ones that aren't ex-WWE talent - when word gets out that he apparently took down Cass with one punch.

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Started watching Bloodsport 2 --

Makowski/Gulak -- Pretty incredible match. Makowski has transitioned perfectly to pro-wres. He held back a bit on his leg kicks, but the grappling exchanges between these two were great. Gulak really impressed me here. Even though he's not on Makowski's level on the ground, he looked more than competent and it looked like he could hang with Makowski. He also had some big takedowns and he also had a pretty neat counter to an armbar by kicking Makowski in the head on the ground. Makowski brought some great sweeps and a really great looking rolling through armbar attempt similar to the Mighty Mouse/Borg armbar. That would have been the perfect finish, but it wasn't and the finish occurred moments later and it was still quite neat.

Sakai/Snow -- Was not good. Sakai is a judoka with some pro fight under her belt. Snow is much bigger than Sakai and she looked out of place in this match as she didn't bring much aside from a big throw and a brainbuster. Sakai on the other hand had some neat transitions. Not much else really. The finish looked pretty bad as Snow set herself up for throw from Sakai. The big size difference clearly hurt this and Snow's inexperience in this type of setting really hurt this. I know Sakai can put on a better match with a different opponent and I hope she gets another shot at some other point if Barnett puts on another show. 

Finished Bloodsport and it was worked more as straight up pro-wres. than shoot style. Makowski/Gulak was the most shoot style type match on the show and easily my favorite match of the night. Fun event.

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On 9/11/2019 at 7:07 PM, AxB said:

For everyone who loves the Bloodsport style but doesn't go in the matches thread, click this:

 

I watched the Damon Moser vs. Chris Ridgeway match they up on their channel from the PROGRESS show and not to be that guy, but that was not good. Neither guy was particularly impressive and they both looked liked fishes out of the water. No neat strikes, no remarkable big throws, no gritty grappling exchanges, etc.

I have the 2 shows queued though and they have some guys who I'm sure can go like Gallagher, so I'm sure there should be some goodies there.

Edit: Just saw the Jack Gallagher vs. Zack Gibson match from the first show and it's a beauty. Both guys looked fantastic. Gibson particularly surprised me. I first thought Gallagher was orquestrating this, but as it went on Gibson showed he could hang in the gritty grappling exchanges. The highlights for me were the fantastic rack up powerbomb counter to a triangle choke from Gibson and the great looking gi choke from Gallagher. Really good stuff.

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Killer Kross called out... BATISTA for a Bloodsport match...

Not even sure what to make of it, but I'd be down for it, but there's a very slim to no chance it occurs.

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Since I got Starrcast it gave me enough credits to get Bloodsport for free.  I need to re-watch the first half since I had it on with no sound at a bar.  But it was a pretty damn fun show.  I knew Carelli was going to bring the awesomeness and he did not disappoint.  DBS/Lawlor was a treat and a half and I could go for many more matches between them in any setting.  I heard Lawlor was wonderful on commentary and from what I heard of the regular guy I wish Tom could do that for the whole show.  Or at least get somebody that's more familiar with MMA to do it.  But I overall loved the show and can't wait for the next one.

Oh, and I'm calling it now, but they'll find a way to get Batista/Cross and it'll happen during Wrestlemania weekend.  Chances of it be damned but I want to will that into existence.

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Puma King has officially replaced Laredo Kid in BOLA

Laredo Kid is apparently doing a reality show that will keep him from working for a bit

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Watching more of the TETSUJIN stuff --

Aside from Gallagher, who is incredible, I will say I was blown away by Zack Gibson as I mentioned previously. Aside from them, the only other standout was Tyler Bate, who didn't look on the same level as Gallagher or Gibson, but he still was impressive in it and I'm sure he could have a great match in this style with the right opponent.

Back to Bloodsport --

There's so many guys I'd like to see participate on one of their cards: Shinya Aoki, Kazushi Sakuraba, Hayato Sakurai, Kazuyuki Miyata, Caol Uno, Kazuyuki Fujita, Daniel Makabe, Anthony Gutierrez, Yuki Ishikawa, Daisuke Nakamura, Hideo Tokoro, Rumina Sato, Masakazu Imanari, etc.

I know most of these seem unlikely, but given Barnett's association with JMMA, I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to book some of these.

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On 9/15/2019 at 9:48 PM, Edwin said:

Killer Kross called out... BATISTA for a Bloodsport match...

Not even sure what to make of it, but I'd be down for it, but there's a very slim to no chance it occurs.

I've heard from people close to GCW that it's pretty much a done deal, but who knows. It'd be huge for them if they actually did put it together.

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On 9/15/2019 at 2:26 AM, bobholly138 said:

Local police who were in the building (the Rahway police station is next door to the Rahway Rec Center so whenever there is a wrestling show, there are tons of on duty and off duty officers who stop by to visit) were asked to escort Cass from the building. Cass was removed and Buck’s farewell went on as planned. The consensus in the locker room that Cass was completely unprofessional. Some were so angry over the situation that there was a belief that had Cass remained in the locker room, there were several who were willing to physically throw him out(or worse) themselves. There was a lot of sympathy for Buck given what tonight meant to him personally and because he was placed in a situation where he had zero choice but to defend himself against someone much bigger that was disrespecting the locker room. 

Not just police- city hall is right next door, which means all of the pertinent civil services are there too. We were at the JAPW show (EDIT: almost 15 years to the day!) where Sonjay Dutt dislocated his elbow and had to go to the hospital... I went outside for a bit while they took intermission and you had an ambulance, a police car and a FIRE TRUCK waiting for him.

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Enzo just posted this on Cass' behalf.

 

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I have to assume that if they reach out to them - the WWE will cover his rehab

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I feel bad for Cass.  He's in a tough spot and even with initial reports I sensed this was what was happening to him, especially when he was fine with Janella the night before..  I just hope that the help he gets leads to a permanent fix to help prevent/mitigate stuff like this from happening.  If not then maybe he should hold off on wrestling and consider something else.  I can see him in movies as an imposing figure in action movies and that may be a better fit for him at this point in his life.

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2019 will never not be wild

 

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Nick Gage is cancelled, goddamnit.

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bix hes a gang member MDK certified

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My God, I love professional wrestling.

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That post on Big Cass is a bummer. Depression sucks.

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Am thinking of going to this.

Erick Stevens is also on the card. Was a big fan of him back in the day before he left.

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Yeah nerd street shows are usually good. Check out the treehouse lee vs saieve al sabah and saieve vs curt stallion matches from the last two shows. Tessa is facing big swole Ariel Monroe on the next show.

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