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I would say the snapmare back kick spot is the most Johnny Kickpads spot ever. Personally.

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On 10/13/2018 at 10:27 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Another JKP faction- the New Hart Foundation (Teddy Hart, Davey Boy Smith, Jr., Brian Pillman, Jr.)

Pillman was trained by a JKP, Lance Storm.

Teddy doesn't wear kickpads. He wears lame modern Jordan's and goofy custom made gear which is actually the clothes he wears outside of wrestling.

Also, Teddy's got that odd ball charisma and a lot more personality than 95% of the guys on the indys and a bunch of guys in NXT.

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8 hours ago, CreativeControl said:

Four pages into this thread and I'm now convinced the reason so many people wear kickpads is solely down to the fact they didn't opt for Buff Bagwell calf implants. 

 

Flair has said that the reason he always wore his kneepads down around his calves instead of over his knees was to cover up his small calves.

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2 hours ago, Morganti said:

I would say the snapmare back kick spot is the most Johnny Kickpads spot ever. Personally.

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Ha ha ha.

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The greatest Johnny Kickpads Stable of all time was Special K from ROH.

The K stood for Kickpads 

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3 hours ago, Morganti said:

I would say the snapmare back kick spot is the most Johnny Kickpads spot ever. Personally.

And yet everyone stole it from Koji Kanemoto, who has the most jacked calf muscles in the business. He just never shows them to anyone except when he was a young boy.

The original kickpad guys, Kawada and the UWF lads, they were wearing them to protect each other. They had proper wrestling boots underneath and they didn't want to flay each other raw with the laces. It became a silly affectation when guys started wearing them without boots.

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1 hour ago, Ultimo Necro said:

The greatest Johnny Kickpads Stable of all time was Special K from ROH.

The K stood for Kickpads 

Yes, absolutely. I brought up Special K about three pages back.

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Lads! I bloody found the clip:

Grado starts talking at 3:21. And he coins the phrase this thread is named after at 3:45.

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On 10/11/2018 at 9:23 PM, AxB said:

Which is odd, because Muay Thai fighters don't wear kickpads.

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Ankle sleeves, sure. But not kickpads. That's Buakaw Por Pramuk by the way.

Depends on the promotion. There are some kick boxing promotions that force fighters(including Muay Thai fighters like Buakaw and Saenchai) to wear kick pads much to the annoyance of the fighters and Muay Thai enthusiasts.

And I can't believe y'all went five pages and not mention Aleister Black at all.

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Kickboxing and Muay Thai are two completely different things. Muay Thai is a modernised form of an ancient Martial Art, Kickboxing was invented in the 1970s (and is very much a 'we keep changing the rules until we can win' sport). Basically a bunch of Karate fighters were programmed to think "We are the toughest people in the world, our techniques are lethal weapons", then went on the street and were shocked to discover that they'd lose fights to untrained idiots (well, mostly nightclub bouncers, who back then were big strong guys with rudimentary combat training, by and large. Most of them probably train MMA now). So they thought of adapting Karate techniques into an actual fight, rather than the choreographed dance routine (judged on form rather than effectiveness) it had devolved into. And their basic idea was just to do boxing, but with with kicks allowed. And when they started losing to low level boxers, they turned it into boxing with kicks mandatory, and point deductions for not kicking enough. Some forms even incorporate the 'below the belt' rule to ban leg kicks as well as low blows. Crazy.

So yeah, I think the mandatory kickpad kickboxing organisations are doing it basically to disadvantage any Muay Thai fighters they've booked. It's also beset by alphabet boy-ism way worse than pro Boxing is. Think of how many World Champions there are in boxing (too many), there are ten times as many in Kickboxing. Anyone can create a belt.

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Aleister Black legitimately trains in kickboxing. I see no issues with him.

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I'd argue that touting "legitimate" training without demonstrated skill is very much in the Johnny Kickpads tradition.

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1 hour ago, Ryan said:

Aleister Black legitimately trains in kickboxing. I see no issues with him.

That training surely didn't help him against Lars Sullivan:

The new Whisper in the Wind, amirite?

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On 10/14/2018 at 11:47 AM, mattdangerously said:

Shibata.

For those of us who need a way to invalidate this damning statement, Shibata is billed at six feet even.

I guess they gotta be white, male, short, can't promo, steal AJPW spots and exude an air of helplessness in one form or another. Pleather feels like it should be a factor but I could see a true JKP denouncing it; those long baggy shorts get in the way of showing off the kickpad, after all. I tried to research this  but all it involved was reading the wikipedia page for the Ted Petty Invitational, image searching Trik Davis. and learning that Arik Cannon is sponsored by Pabst Blue Ribbon. This isn't worth it.

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3 hours ago, Beech27 said:

I'd argue that touting "legitimate" training without demonstrated skill is very much in the Johnny Kickpads tradition.

Yes that is very Johnny Kickpads, but honestly I think Aleister Black doesn't truly feel like a JKP simply because of the most obvious difference: Aleister Black has a gimmick.

Granted, his gimmick is "I am a teenage goth edgelord", but that does conceive that, at the very least, Aleister Black has some semblance of a gimmick.

A true Johnny Kickpads would NEVER have a gimmick except "I am a serious wrestler what wrestles wrestling, and I am here to put on the best match on the card". 

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4 hours ago, Beech27 said:

I'd argue that touting "legitimate" training without demonstrated skill is very much in the Johnny Kickpads tradition.

Is Baron Corbin a Johnny Shoulderpads? 

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As hilarious as that is, Corbin actually played football—he didn’t just “train” it. A true Johnny Shoulderpads would have videopackages built around them doing Oklahoma drills and hitting sleds, despite never actually playing in a game. Cesaro’s long-forgotten rugby background comes closer to the Johnny Kickpads faux-sports ideal, as does Big Show getting a finisher out of a non-existent boxing background.

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I knew I was broadening the definition a bit for the joke. But I continue to love Corbin big-leaguing people because he spent a cup of coffee on some team's practice squad. Sure, he played and it's an accomplishment. But it's used to wildly exaggerate what hot shit he is. 

Anyway, as you were. :P

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I remember Wrestle 1 billing Shibata as 5 foot 11. 

 

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I await Franky Elbowpads. Guys who throw shitty elbows and forearms. Generally, most with that gimmick do not. Hero, Misawa, Tanaka.

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So, anyone got a collective identity term for generic identikit WWE Performance centre graduates?

You know, The ones who all do the ring entrance  where they come through the curtain, stop and do the signature pose, walk to the ring in exactly 12 seconds, do their signature climb into the ring spot, then wait for the chorus of the song  to kick in so they can do their signature pose on schedule again?

Most of them have the same physique as well.

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Factory made guys.

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Talent doing what they're told and trained to do? FACE THE HARD CAM!

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Yeah, but Hard Cam Facers sounds vaguely pornographic. And if we were going down that route, we'd be calling them Canyon C-Men or something.

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