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Cobra Commander

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20 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

two random notes from watching parts of a 1982 Championship Wrestling from Florida episode last night

1) having Magnum TA and Jake Roberts on screen at the same time is certainly putting two dudes with similar facial stylings on screen at the same time

2) not entirely sure if Jake putting Barry Windham through a wooden ringside barrier with a running kneelift can be exactly reproduced these days. Both because of a difference in what's around ringside and it being awhile since kneelifts were used as a finish (but if they could get the Shining Wizard over, then it's not impossible to get a million dollar kneelift over)

the kneelift in question is at the end of this video, witness the glory of Barry Windham when he had metabolism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUYpHnQBAVE

Also note the novel concept of "we only had 10 minutes to give you for this match (presumably because of how packed the rest of the show is and how they only have an hour)" becoming a point of contention. As opposed to now where things just magically work themselves out with giving everybody enough time.

Although if you did something where a match was advertised for Dynamite but due to other events, it was "bumped" to Rampage "due to time".. I don't know if you could have some wrestler vent frustration on TV (in a non-shoot way) about his matches being messed with due to other people's chaos. Or considering how at least half the matches go through a commercial break, a wrestler who gets mad at other wrestlers for having matches that go too long.

They'd just tweet about it instead. Or it'd be someone that fans don't care enough about to want to see in action. So.

Just got the foreign object idea of someone responding to being squeezed off due to lack of time walking out with a Flava Flav clock "to keep track of time", only for them to hit opponents with that clock if they're really desperate to win a match.

It's not as good of an idea as my idea that blatantly rips off the Mirror dude from Morris Day and the Time.

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Elsalvajeloco

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4 hours ago, odessasteps said:

I saw some old 70s result recently where a wrestler was using the “Rooster Coburn” gimmick name. 

Remember when I brought up Memphis wrestling having IPs (ex. the Pink Panther) they didn't own and using them casually? Well...

https://memphiswrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Rooster_Cogburn

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2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

It's not as good of an idea as my idea that blatantly rips off the Mirror dude from Morris Day and the Time.

HIS NAME IS JEROME!

Also, didn't we have like two back-to-back mirror related gimmicks with early Heartbreak Kid Shawn and Sherri and then the Narcissist? I am guessing they had an overstock of mirrors in Stamford.

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27 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

HIS NAME IS JEROME!

Also, didn't we have like two back-to-back mirror related gimmicks with early Heartbreak Kid Shawn and Sherri and then the Narcissist? I am guessing they had an overstock of mirrors in Stamford.

As a kid I thought it was fairly bold of Lex Luger to be around mirrors so much considering how Marty Jannetty whacked Sensational Sherri with one, but then I figured Luger would just shove the referee in the way or something.

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Cobra Commander

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7 minutes ago, Sparkleface said:

As a kid I thought it was fairly bold of Lex Luger to be around mirrors so much considering how Marty Jannetty whacked Sensational Sherri with one, but then I figured Luger would just shove the referee in the way or something.

also it's a better plan to jump Shawn Michaels than Lex Luger, no "group of marines" ever tried to take on Lex Luger and his stainless steel forearm

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15 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

Random note: fortunately Vince Russo wasn’t so cultured that he knew of the “name Cockburn is pronounced Coburn” thing so that some WWF wrestler in 1998 would have to keep telling people his name isn’t pronounced Peter Cockburn but Peter Coburn.

edit: that would be the name of a porn star who is a mortal enemy of Val Venis

I vividly remember working a call centre job for a bank in my early 20s, and coming across a guy with this surname and pronouncing it Cockburn, and the tantrum voice-breakingly shrill response of "ITS CO-BURN, YOU FOOL" from the guy in his mid 50s on the end of the line, and choosing to double down on it with a "Oh. My apologies, it's been put on the system here as C-O-C-K-B-U-R-N. I'll change that for you now", and hearing this uncontrollable and escalating "nononoNONONONO NO!" at the end of the phone before a handset being smashed down. 

I've made it a mandatory mistake to make whenever I come across it from there.

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17 hours ago, Sparkleface said:

As a kid I thought it was fairly bold of Lex Luger to be around mirrors so much considering how Marty Jannetty whacked Sensational Sherri with one, but then I figured Luger would just shove the referee in the way or something.

At King of the Ring'93, Tatanka pushed the mirror on top of Luger at the beginning of the match, but I guess the impact wasn't hard enough, since that one didn't shatter like the one Sherri looked into, did?

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Cobra Commander

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Watching some more Florida on YouTube and it looks like JJ Dillon’s mustache was pretty much gone by the time that Jimmy Garvin turned heel by signing with JJ. Which was Garvin going from being a bland babyface Jim Garvin to being somebody important.

Also the sequence might have been inspired by baseball free agency as there were multiple references to Reggie Jackson signing with the Angels (or as Gordon put it, Reggie Jackson signed with the Dodgers)

So here’s another moment in the adventures of JJ Dillon in Florida: 

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JJ opens a box while Dusty is at the table. Then he starts laughing like an insane person as we see a shredded cowboy hat. Dillon departs to the back and Dusty silently gets up and goes after JJ. Then Dusty brings JJ back out of the back and busts up JJ’s arm because JJ had stolen/destroyed the cowboy hat that Willie Nelson gave Dusty.

 

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Curt McGirt

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I don't know which I like more, 1. Them just deciding to flush the toilet first instead of saying anything, anything at all, or 2. Stewart's dad immediately throwing him under the bus. 

That's a good one. I must not have seen it in what, 25 years?

EDIT: If it was '94, then 29

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On 12/2/2023 at 3:21 PM, Cobra Commander said:

Also note the novel concept of "we only had 10 minutes to give you for this match (presumably because of how packed the rest of the show is and how they only have an hour)" becoming a point of contention. As opposed to now where things just magically work themselves out with giving everybody enough time.

Although if you did something where a match was advertised for Dynamite but due to other events, it was "bumped" to Rampage "due to time".. I don't know if you could have some wrestler vent frustration on TV (in a non-shoot way) about his matches being messed with due to other people's chaos. Or considering how at least half the matches go through a commercial break, a wrestler who gets mad at other wrestlers for having matches that go too long.

They'd just tweet about it instead. Or it'd be someone that fans don't care enough about to want to see in action. So.

Just got the foreign object idea of someone responding to being squeezed off due to lack of time walking out with a Flava Flav clock "to keep track of time", only for them to hit opponents with that clock if they're really desperate to win a match.

It's not as good of an idea as my idea that blatantly rips off the Mirror dude from Morris Day and the Time.

That just got me thinking of a fun gimmick, where a wrestlers match keeps getting bumped for time (think Jimmy Kimmel always bumping Matt Damons appearance on his show to next week) complete with backstage footage of his reaction to getting his match moved as he was preparing to go out to the ring. The wrestler gets more and more frustrated, until he runs in on a match and attacks both competitors and stages a sit-in until he gets some respect.

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Zakk_Sabbath

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2 hours ago, ChrisPBacon said:

That just got me thinking of a fun gimmick, where a wrestlers match keeps getting bumped for time (think Jimmy Kimmel always bumping Matt Damons appearance on his show to next week) complete with backstage footage of his reaction to getting his match moved as he was preparing to go out to the ring. The wrestler gets more and more frustrated, until he runs in on a match and attacks both competitors and stages a sit-in until he gets some respect.

While I think this is a great gimmick, the tough thing here is that I could see an argument for this being too similar to the semi-frequent IRL airing-of-the-airtime-grievances on social media (I think Britt Baker being the most recent)

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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

Ethan Page would be perfect for that. 

Speaking of which, how weird is Page vs. Omega? Who asked for that? It had to be Omega, right? Or did Omega not have a match partner and Coach Tony K's DEAN/WAR-ometer clicked on and he said "THAT'S PERFECT!!!"

I think that they are overestimating how much Quebecers are going to care about a Winnipeger vs a Hamiltonian wrestling in Montreal.

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Cobra Commander

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1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

the tough thing here is that I could see an argument for this being too similar to the semi-frequent IRL airing-of-the-airtime-grievances on social media (I think Britt Baker being the most recent)

will AEW be holding a Festivus Battle Royal this month where the winner gets them to actually do something about their grievance?

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Curt McGirt

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His opponent got kicked in the balls and pinned so HE had to lose HIS (their?) mask? I don't get what's so funny, besides it being stupid. 

54 minutes ago, Dewar said:

Do either of them parlez vous Francais? 

In Montreal, whichever one does will certainly be the face.

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Cobra Commander

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2 hours ago, Dewar said:

Do either of them parlez vous Francais? 

I originally thought this question was about the Ontario vs Ontario main event of Christian vs TWFKA Edge (which is a major "angle alert" match instead of a blowoff for anybody unsure of why they're doing this match on Dynamite)

Christian vs Edge in a match in Montreal where the winner is the first one to complete a coherent sentence in French

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