odessasteps Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 It seemed like a good follow-up after the scaffold talk on the show recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 So y'all are just cool with Corny's not-so-casual racism and he and his wife sexually harassing/assaulting talent? Cool, cool cool cool. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) On 11/6/2021 at 6:46 PM, christopher.annino said: So y'all are just cool with Corny's not-so-casual racism and he and his wife sexually harassing/assaulting talent? Cool, cool cool cool. Don't forget the not so casual homophobia and transphobia as well. And whatever the Venn diagram between all his bullshit is (for example, when he says Jade Cargill looks like Shelton Benjamin in drag, does that fall in the racist bucket or the transphobic bucket?). I'd love to hear a non-defensive answer to this question. Edited November 15, 2021 by Technico Support 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I'm not sure if there is a particular starting reason for this round of "Did you all realize that Cornette is a piece of garbage?" but he is. This doesn't change that he sometimes has good insight into wrestling production (although his reviews have been worse lately with a bunch of fast forwarding through stuff). You can probably get more nuggets from his podcasts than from other shows but you will have to run it all through your Cornette filter where you can toss large swathes of it in the trash. It's such a mixed bag that I would love a long formed podcast with a similar format without all the garbage but I don't know that it exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I don’t seek out the slivers of Cornettes podcast about recent shows and that’s probably a pretty reasonable decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I would only encourage people to listen to the segments on youtube about subjects they are interested. I don't listen to the show recaps or most things modern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I guess it's just more trying to figure out people here, where they draw the line. To me, it's absolutely bonkers that anybody still listens to a word that dude says despite him being a real piece of shit human. At what point do you say, "okay his insights are great but I gotta stop supporting this dude's work"? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Cornette has a lot of "my personal interactions with (x) set my opinions about (x)" to him.. so he's awful on some things either due to personal interactions, or a lack of them, and then he might surprise some with his stand on the police since I guess the number of idiot cops he dealt with outweighed the cops that helped keep Louisianans from killing him in 1984. Also means stuff like he's ferocious on organized religion, unless it's someone who he knows and has a good history with, like Dibiase. Fortunately for the sake of perceptions, he might not have had much of a reason to mention anything about Muslims lately, aside from maybe stuff about the Saudi shows that I haven't listened to. Cornette's kinda Hitchens without the Iraq War cheerleading? Edited November 10, 2021 by Cobra Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, christopher.annino said: I guess it's just more trying to figure out people here, where they draw the line. To me, it's absolutely bonkers that anybody still listens to a word that dude says despite him being a real piece of shit human. At what point do you say, "okay his insights are great but I gotta stop supporting this dude's work"? Terrible people aren’t all morons and all morons aren’t terrible people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, christopher.annino said: I guess it's just more trying to figure out people here, where they draw the line. To me, it's absolutely bonkers that anybody still listens to a word that dude says despite him being a real piece of shit human. At what point do you say, "okay his insights are great but I gotta stop supporting this dude's work"? When he said that Omega was fucking Riho as an explanation for why she was in AEW. I was so out. Fuck Cornette. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Cornette is an amazing resource for historical wrestling knowledge. I tune out/ignore pretty much anything else. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Goodear said: Terrible people aren’t all morons and all morons aren’t terrible people. So it's worth supporting/enabling terrible people just because they're intelligent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I support Cornette like I support WWE. Sometimes I might listen to a snippet but I’m not cutting anyone any checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, christopher.annino said: I guess it's just more trying to figure out people here, where they draw the line. To me, it's absolutely bonkers that anybody still listens to a word that dude says despite him being a real piece of shit human. At what point do you say, "okay his insights are great but I gotta stop supporting this dude's work"? This is exactly what gets me. I like everyone here despite some disagreements and heated exchanges from time to time. I have decent opinions of most of you. So I'm kind of boggled by the "take the good with the bad" approach to Cornette that I can't see decent people taking. How much is too much? If he outright called Kenny a "faggot" instead of slyly saying "twinkletoes," would that be enough for you? If he tossed out the N word for Jade and called her a tranny or shemale instead of saying the oh so clever "looks like Shelton Benjamin in drag," would that be enough? He's mixing up his Japanese women and saying "it doesn't matter!" Ostensibly because all those nip slant bitches look alike and are just fetish toys for yellow fever weeaboos, right bros? I mean Jesus fucking Christ, how much hate speech is enough for you to say, "I don't care about this guy's good content, I can't tacitly support hate anymore?" Y'all just denying it and looking the other way because he's being 1% more covert about it than the racist uncle you try to avoid on Thanksgiving. Edited November 10, 2021 by Technico Support 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Not sure anyone needs to see all that hypothetical punched-up bigotry when it's so easy to make the case against the guy using his actual words, but go off... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Not sure anyone needs to see all that hypothetical punched-up bigotry when it's so easy to make the case against the guy using his actual words, but go off... Yeah forget Cornette, he tried to compare my YouTube shoots to Tony Khan's forbidden door promos a couple of months back on his podcast. Everyone knows TK (apparently hopped up on cocaine according to Jim) > Krone Meltzer 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind, I missed the point of it. Please disregard. Edited November 11, 2021 by NikoBaltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 55 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: I agree with what you're saying but is it possible to at least the censor the F word? Even in quotes that's not something that should spelled out. That is the entire point of why I wrote exactly what I did. If "twinkletoes" doesn't bother people, maybe seeing the other word written out will make them uncomfortable enough to think twice about what they're supporting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) As a queer person I have no qualms with Tecnico using that word in that specific way, because that was exactly the point. There were other words used that can be just as offensive to people from those communities, and we sure as fuck have been called to them by some hateful bastards. The fact that Cornette dances around using these specific words doesn't mean shit when that's exactly what he's alluding to. Edited November 10, 2021 by christopher.annino 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I guess seeing that word was a bit jarring to me but I get the reasoning behind it. If it was up to me I would just say it's best Cornette doesn't get brought up again but it's not expected for that to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Here's where I am. I am willing to stipulate that Cornette is a giant piece of shit. Is anyone taking the other side here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Congrats on doing the bare minimum. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Trying to create common ground. If we can all agree Jimmy is a shit bag, we don't have to go over that again. What in your mind is the optimal response for us to take against Cornette as people who don't give him any money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 If I had known just mentioning the man's name would unleash this firestorm I never even would've posted it. The remarks about female Japanese wrestlers, comments about fetish apartment wrestling and referring to most female wrestlers as "girls" struck me as super odd. I never even gave two thoughts about him calling Omega "Twinkletoes" a substitute for the "F" word. I'm sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I picked a bad day to check on you miscreants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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