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[odessasteps]

I kind of agree about the Fabs, but I do like them as heels vs the Guerreros in Houston. 

[Curt McGirt]

So who did come up with the Bushwackers gimmick? 

[Elsalvajeloco]

Instead of bumping the squash thread, I am just going to leave this one here. Now, THIS is how you do a squash.

Vader vs. Brad Armstrong (WCW Worldwide, 09/10/1994)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvZl5Jh_H2Y

[clintthecrippler]

4 hours ago, odessasteps said:

I kind of agree about the Fabs, but I do like them as heels vs the Guerreros in Houston. 

Yeah, I've been watching available Houston footage along the way too and it really is night-and-day The Fabulous Ones in Houston against The Guerreros vs. the main weekly Mid-South TV. Maybe it's the motivation of being in a proper program, the Houston pay days being good, or just having more trust/faith in their dance partners.

Because HOLY SHIT, there is some really intense heat-heavy stuff going on in there where I genuinely feared for the safety of the Fabulous Ones walking out through that crowd after a couple of the angles they ran during that Houston feud.

[Curt McGirt]

Here's some Fabs/Guerreros in Houston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c6X3p3yRsc&ab_channel=CWAMemphis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQ2nnBQRvw&ab_channel=ClassicWrestlingstuff

Steve Keirn is such a fucker. At one point in that first match he reaches down and takes a full grab of his junk, right at the crowd. After the match he says the Guerreros sounds like an Italian sandwich! The second one is a Mexican death match and I'm sure it's great, gonna peep it now. 

I looked it up and Chavo Sr. (oldest) and Eddie (youngest) were born 18 years apart. Whoa. Chavo Jr. and Eddie were only three years apart! Also, there are two sisters but Wiki doesn't have ages for them. 

[Elsalvajeloco]

20 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Here's some Fabs/Guerreros in Houston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c6X3p3yRsc&ab_channel=CWAMemphis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQ2nnBQRvw&ab_channel=ClassicWrestlingstuff

Steve Keirn is such a fucker. At one point in that first match he reaches down and takes a full grab of his junk, right at the crowd. After the match he says the Guerreros sounds like an Italian sandwich! The second one is a Mexican death match and I'm sure it's great, gonna peep it now. 

I looked it up and Chavo Sr. (oldest) and Eddie (youngest) were born 18 years apart. Whoa. Chavo Jr. and Eddie were only three years apart! Also, there are two sisters but Wiki doesn't have ages for them. 

Yeah, Chavo (Jr) and Eddie being close in age was sort of the thing in WCW. They basically grew as brothers rather than uncle and nephew. However, in WCW, they turned that into an (awesome) angle.

[Curt McGirt]

I had just forgot about the age difference really. The Chavito Goes Crazy angle was supreme. Pepe! "Heeeeere Uncle Eddie Eddie Eddie..."

[zendragon]

Clip of young piper and adonis in a handy cap match

[Cobra Commander]

Ronnie Garvin headbutting Haku and hitting him until the VCR tracking goes out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvGkyZJl7U

Chick Donovan getting squashed in 1995 as Gorilla and DiBiase talk Wrestlemania 11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh_ChZmPIkU

Kaoru and Sonoko Kato and Dusty Rhodes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD9mCEoe1Rs

Evil Brad Armstrong gets cheered by the fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_iFFjQ5uKQ

In which Rip Morgan is allowed to use a gimmick name to work against Uncle Elmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRzauctooeQ

Edited September 15, 2023 by Cobra Commander

[odessasteps]

 

[Curt McGirt]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxjsya

This one's for DEAN. I pulled up a random DVDVR to read and he reviewed it. 

Quote

GENICHIRO TENRYU/ TATSUMI KITAHARA/ JUN KIKUCHI vs. ABDULLAH the
BUTCHER/ TARZAN GOTO/ RYO MIYAKE (Cage match):  One trembles in fear at
the mighty WAR Main Event.  You never know what you’ll get. This DID have the
absolutely GREAT Abdullah interview.  “You’ve never tasted the fork, Ten-you!  The
Butcher Is EATING YOU, Ten-you!”  Abby speaking English and delving so deeply into
the realm of the Antichristo interview for all-out creepiness was priceless.  The match
itself was quite the hideous thing because Kitahara never gets to kick the fuck out of
anything so to hell with all this.  They carve up Tenryu pretty good, if your into that kind
of thing.

The awesome Abby promo is on Youtube somewhere

[Cobra Commander]

The 1997 Stevie Richards WCW cameo really was something. He gets to work DDP twice and Savage. And he’s in and out of the company within 4 months so that he can return to ECW for 5 seconds and drop out of the major promotions for a year and a half.

[Elsalvajeloco]

On 9/16/2023 at 8:49 PM, odessasteps said:

 

I just watched Master G's debut in Mid-South (9/15/1984) the other day. We're on like week 3 of Watts bitching about JYD leaving Mid-South. It's sad watching a promoter fall completely apart over someone leaving. Now that said, after about one or two weeks of teasing Brickhouse and Sonny King as his JYD replacement, he does the old bait and switch, brings in someone new, and having him immediately beat up Butch Reed. SO HE HAS THREE GUYS TO REPLACE ONE GUY!

Bold move, Cotton.

 

[Cobra Commander]

gotta hire every black wrestler available to see if any of them can replace your top draw, brutha

Bill Watts going all "my QB got hurt so i'm bringing in every similar QB to see if any of them can stick" with his problem

while it didn't last whatsoever, Wells debuting by just beating the hell out of Butch Reed out of nowhere was memorable enough

Edited September 18, 2023 by Cobra Commander

[Cobra Commander]

WWF Squash matches-

Lanny Poffo gives up to an unexpected move by Ted DiBiase after fans insist that DiBiase can't buy them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZADwW7_AM

Lanny Poffo throws a frisbee at Ted DiBiase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbwABBaxcMA

Bob Emery tries to jump Bad News Brown and Bad News gets into a postmatch brawl with someone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxm5162bMMY

[DangerMark]

On 9/17/2023 at 6:40 AM, Curt McGirt said:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxjsya

This one's for DEAN. I pulled up a random DVDVR to read and he reviewed it.

He was right, needed more of Koki Kitahara wrecking people.

I sometimes have to check which one out of Koki Kitahara and Koji Kitao was the good one: it was Kitahara, Kitao was a big Sumo name and also a creep and a slug.

Edited September 21, 2023 by DangerMark

[Curt McGirt]

It needed more blood too, period. Abby didn't even seem to blade which is perhaps the most absurd thing I've ever written.

Kitao is earlier on the card and DEAN writes that he's the worst wrestler ever haha

Edited September 21, 2023 by Curt McGirt

[Matt D]

I went through all the early Kitao matches in early SWS and I sure wish that I didn't. He even dragged down Tenryu. No one can drag down Tenryu!

[Curt McGirt]

1 hour ago, DangerMark said:

Kitao was a big Sumo name and also a creep and a slug

 

Quote

LANCE STORM/ NOBUTAKA ARAYA vs. KOJI KITOA/ NOBUKAZU HIRAI:
BOY!  THIS AIN’T SO GOOD!  Araya is a good worker- a sort of shorter,
less-flamboyant, over-the-hill version of Barry Windham (or something).  Lance Storm is
good worker that you’ve seen with his nekkid valet in ECW.  Hirai is like a dwarfish
version of Tachihikari but without the beauty and melancholy but with all the clumsiness
BUT with the added feature of a perchant to fuck up at attempts at high-flying so he also
has RANGE in his inability to wrestle.  Koji Kitoa is the worst motherfucking wrestler on
the God’s green earth.  What a lumbering useless load of shit in the ring.  Hey!  He’s
retired now so everybody’s happy!  This match is good for some really deep guffaws as
Kitoa fucks up any and everything he attempts.  Hirai is also good for a few laughs as he
hits the most hilarious toprope elbow that he follows up with a laughable WAR Special.
Hearty chuckles all around!  Ohhhh goddamdidkojikitoastink.

 

[Curt McGirt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge1hqB-2RkA&ab_channel=Foywonder

TASTE THE FORK~!

[DangerMark]

He came up a few years back in the Sumo Thread, and I think I might just link you there for a bit of background about exactly the kind of fuckhead we're talking about here.

That promo is magnificent, the Anticristo comparison is spot on.

[Curt McGirt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOTJO4WicA&ab_channel=RecordsoftheWrestlingWorld

Here is the Abdullah the Butcher disco jam recorded in Japan with him yelling random stuff and screaming. It's incredible. 

[DangerMark]

Koji Kitao was horrible as a wrestler and a human being and I am sorry for bringing him up.

Koki Kitahara was a fun, undersized midcard brute, a sort of Proto-Ishii; and I am doubly sorry for turning the conversation away from him.

Edited September 22, 2023 by DangerMark

[clintthecrippler]

I am now into April 1986 in my UWF viewing and not too much to note right now but I absolutely felt compelled to share The Sheepherders reaction to the reveal of Jack Victory's girlfriend, Lady Maxine, a woman with a body type that feels like she would definitely play much differently to fans in 2023 than she did in 1986, and while I am attempting to stay away from needing someone to tell me "calm down, cripplernetico", rightfully so. 

Also, this is the first time I am doing a week-to-week TV rewatch as an adult where The Sheepherders are there every week and it is absolutely blowing me away that even as bloodthirsty heel Sheepherders, Luke and Butch were still doing the "WOAH....YEAAAH!" mannerisms in their promos even then.

And the week after this, the Fantastics would return to take the titles from The Sheepherders and kick off the territory's last truly great tag team rivalry.

Okay, one more thing to note: Dick Slater's exit from the territory may be one of the greatest ass-handings of a wrestler on his way out ever and he didn't even take a single bump. Instead, the 1-2 punch of him tripping over his own hubris of winning both the North American and Television Championship, giving the Television Championship to Buzz Sawyer, then getting tricked into signing off on Buzz as a surrogate defender of the North American Championship who then loses to Hacksaw Duggan, and then Buzz refusing to give back the Television Championship when Slater asks him to with a resounding Bugs Bunny-meme level "NOOOOOOO!" while backed up by his new protege Rick Steiner is an absolutely wonderful send-off for a heel that had taken the territory by storm upon his arrival just six months prior.

The entire saga plays out in this episode of UWF TV from the 8-minute mark through about the 30-minute mark from initial recaps, in-between promos with Slater, and ultimately Buzz giving the final brushoff to Slater, and is some damn fun wrestling television.

 

[Cobra Commander]

not sure how long Buzz Sawyer and Rick Steiner remained together, but that seems like a pairing that rubbed off on Rick in a few ways