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I think my favorite shot in this episode was Jamie riding through King's Landing and the snow slowly starting to sprinkle down.  It was the calm before the storm.  It was pretty scary actually. 

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When Jaime still stuck with Cersei after she caused the deaths of several show VIPs in Mad King fashion, including their uncle, and inadvertently brought about the suicide of their last remaining child, I didn't think even zombies would be enough to convince him to leave her. I'm glad he finally did. I hope when he meets up with Tyrion he tells him she was fucking Lancel to kill any lingering doubt he may have about his decision.

We should just assume Bronn left with Jaime even though we didn't see him in that snow scene, right? We're certainly not going to see him sharing scenes with Cersei next season.

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What struck me after the fact is that Jon's remarkably stupid honesty nearly derailed everyone's plans.  The whole "we need to unite to stop the dead" plan was obviously compromised, but clearly Cersei had planned to say yes to whatever they offered as she had the pre-existing plan/double cross with Euron in place.  She asked Jon not to get involved, hoping that he'd honestly do so but assuming that even if he wouldn't he'd say he would regardless.  When he was remarkably honest, even though it ruined the whole plan she set up, she had no choice but to walk away as nothing else would be believable.  Only when Tyrion decided to meet her did she get an opening to put things back on track. 

If Snow ends up on the throne the realm is screwed.

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9 hours ago, username said:

What struck me after the fact is that Jon's remarkably stupid honesty nearly derailed everyone's plans.  The whole "we need to unite to stop the dead" plan was obviously compromised, but clearly Cersei had planned to say yes to whatever they offered as she had the pre-existing plan/double cross with Euron in place.  She asked Jon not to get involved, hoping that he'd honestly do so but assuming that even if he wouldn't he'd say he would regardless.  When he was remarkably honest, even though it ruined the whole plan she set up, she had no choice but to walk away as nothing else would be believable.  Only when Tyrion decided to meet her did she get an opening to put things back on track. 

If Snow ends up on the throne the realm is screwed.

At this point, I'm fully convinced that Jon goes down in a blaze of glory taking the Night King with him, saving the entire realm.  Dany ends up on the Throne knocked up with Jon's kid, and that's where we end.

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My one minor correction: she didn't ask Jon to bend the knee, but rather to declare neutrality in the Lannister/Targaryen war.

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See, I have been critical of many of the plans people came up with this season for being rather dumb but I don't think Cersei's was quite as bad as described above.  Obviously she knew that the others were going to show her something that they thought would be rather persuasive, so all she had to do was have Euron and herself act naturally beforehand and then act shaken after whatever was revealed to them.  It buys her time to get mercenaries to her shores and likely a chance to stab the others in the back, which is likely her only chance at defeating them.  She'll deal with the dead afterwards, but this is true to her character as she's always a bit shortsighted.  It's not the greatest plan in the world, but it is in character and isn't overly convoluted.

The only real flaw was asking Jon to swear to not get involved, and even then it is low risk as there is little chance any sane man in his position would say no regardless of what he was actually planning to do.  Unfortunately he is... well Jon and he inadvertently screwed it all up.  It took Tyrion doing something rather dumb and Cersei deciding on short notice that it'd be better to use his stupidity to get her plan back on track rather than kill him on the spot (which is progress for Cersei as she actually took the longer view for once) to bail her out.

Now if you ask why anyone would trust her in the first place or think that she has much help to offer (most of her army was either burnt alive or is likely shellshocked as hell), well then I have no good answers.

12 hours ago, Raziel403 said:

At this point, I'm fully convinced that Jon goes down in a blaze of glory taking the Night King with him, saving the entire realm.  Dany ends up on the Throne knocked up with Jon's kid, and that's where we end.

This is likely the best case scenario.

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Coming to the UK this month: Game ofThrones postage stamps!

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On 9/5/2017 at 4:37 AM, MarcosLoura said:

Cersei's "plan" never made sense. Max Landis did a good recap.

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1. Fuck Max Landis

2. Maybe that wasn't her exact plan from moment to moment. Has the woman not proved to be a pretty master manipulator and strategist? She probably has backup plans for backup plans and has a way to always look for an angle to deceive and manipulate people. 

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Naw dude. Don't you know? Max Landis knows everything and is infallible.

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