twiztor Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 i must be off on my weeks. i coulda swore that Shlemenko faced Marshall tonight. guess i'll have to wait another 7 days then.
epwar Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 They switched the title fights. It was supposed to be tonight, but moved to next week with the Heavyweight title fight moved to tonight.
LethalStriker Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Askren's response to the Hieron criticisms: Ben AskrenTo anyone who points to my Jay Heiron WIN to discredit my abilities consider this. At that point I was LESS than 3 years into my career and relatively inexperienced despite already being the Bellator Champion. I had a tough fight against the #16 ranked fight in the world(at the time) and was able to get the job done. I have learned and progressed significantly since then.As a point of reference the man fighting for the WW UFC Belt this weekend Johny Hendricks LOST a Unanimous Dec fight to Rick Story(who wasn't near the top 16 at that point) after fighting for MORE than 3 years.Moral of story high level wrestlers progress rapidly through their career. Despite my inexperience at the time I was able get the job done against a high level experienced fighter. I am significantly better than I was then and will continue to get the job done against any WW put in front of me.
LethalStriker Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 I think if UFC is going to add another womens division that adding 115 is much smarter to add then 125. Since adding 125 would just draw fighters away from 135 which in effect would just weaken that division. I'm sure theres plenty of 115 women fighters there for them to sign, even some 105'ers who're willing to come up to get into UFC. 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 The thing is that it's going to do that anyway as far as weakening the women's bantamweight division. About three of the girls that already fought (or have been booked for the next few cards) in the UFC should be at 115. 125 barely exists in female's MMA so the only way to go was 115 where some of those girls should already be. I think the Sexton-Andrade fight had something to do with that decision.
LethalStriker Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Hey now they can bring in The Karate Hottie. I like Miesha and Ronda, but Michelle Waterson would be the hottest female fighter in UFC history.
keith_h Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Karate Hottie fights at Atomweight (105 lbs). She'd be pretty small for 115 lbs.
The Natural Posted November 16, 2013 Author Posted November 16, 2013 To celebrate the UFC's 20th Anniversary, the UFC has put up free fights on YouTube. Three BIG ones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR2GpzESbHc&list=PL9m3-_Hv6qNiB_rAWmjdK7GX0RHEXH41S&index=6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSOkYzyTzk&list=PL9m3-_Hv6qNiB_rAWmjdK7GX0RHEXH41S&index=8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SS77cgAjNw
twiztor Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Askren's response to the Hieron criticisms: Ben AskrenTo anyone who points to my Jay Heiron WIN to discredit my abilities consider this. At that point I was LESS than 3 years into my career and relatively inexperienced despite already being the Bellator Champion. I had a tough fight against the #16 ranked fight in the world(at the time) and was able to get the job done. I have learned and progressed significantly since then. As a point of reference the man fighting for the WW UFC Belt this weekend Johny Hendricks LOST a Unanimous Dec fight to Rick Story(who wasn't near the top 16 at that point) after fighting for MORE than 3 years. Moral of story high level wrestlers progress rapidly through their career. Despite my inexperience at the time I was able get the job done against a high level experienced fighter. I am significantly better than I was then and will continue to get the job done against any WW put in front of me. in what world is Jay Hieron ranked #16 in the world but a Rick Story who had won 4 in a row in the UFC isn't near that? moral of the story i like Askren even less now for putting someone else down to attempt to build himself up. 1
glfpunk Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Maybe he's talking about now. But at one point our own rankings on the old board had Hieron ranked at 10. I think Story was as high as 8 or so at one point. Point being that Hieron and Story are probably fairly close and Askren actually won his fight that he gets criticized for. 1
TheVileOne Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 It's not like Askren beat anyone of note or that was even ranked in the top 10 following that fight.
jstout Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 But it's not his fault that he's not surrounded with top talent in Bellator.
LethalStriker Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Lima may or may not be able to be a fringe top ten fighter in UFC. Problem with Bellator is even if they have a few top fighters is they're fighting in Bellator so they can't really beat the guys that you need to beat to get into the top ten. To get into the Top Ten you generally have to beat other top ten fighters but if 99% of the top fighters are in the UFC you can't go about proving if you're for real or not. That's why when ranking UFC fighters I try to only pay attention to the UFC rankings since they're all fighting against each other and in this modern era of MMA, it's too hard to rank fighters in the UFC to the rest of the world.
glfpunk Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Yeah but that takes the fun out of it. It's always fun to form an opinion on how this guy would do over in that organization against other fighters. Don't you remember Pride vs UFC debates?
Zheroen Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Or "Matt Lindland is #2 at Middleweight behind Anderson Silva"?
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I wish the old board didn't go down because people legitimately thought Lindland, Kang, and Trigg deserved to be top ten MWs way after their time was up.
glfpunk Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I thought Lindland was a top ten guy until he ended up in Strikeforce. Also that was the worst division in mma at the time.
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Not after getting deprived of his senses by non-ranked Vitor Belfort.
epwar Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Josh Thomson now faces Benson Henderson in the main event of the UFC on Fox card in Chicago.
Zero Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 1.2 million people tuned into watch Rampage vs. Beltran.
LethalStriker Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 The Machida/Mousasi Fight Night card is being pushed back a week to February 15 and the co main event will be Jacare Souza vs. Francis Carmont.
epwar Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 The fact that Carmount is even in the position to be in a co-main event scares me.
TheVileOne Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Well he is 6-0 in the UFC and in the top 10. Just saying.
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 So we're going to say something about Carmont but not the man he soundly beat being in the MAIN EVENT a month earlier.
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Nobody remembers any of Carmonts fights
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