The Man Known as Dan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Minor point, but has anyone raised there stock more in LU then Fenix? I expected a fun high spot guy, but both of his big matches with Mil have been a blast, and it's not all Mil being awesome. That said, Mil is REALLY awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Vampiro and Pentagon Jr. But, yes, Fenix has impressed. If you were to show WWE fans one episode to try to get them hooked on this show, which would it be? The Grave Consequences episode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yeah. Grave Consequences or that latest seven man from a couple weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Vampiro and Pentagon Jr. But, yes, Fenix has impressed. If you were to show WWE fans one episode to try to get them hooked on this show, which would it be? The Grave Consequences episode? While Vampiro is a good point, but everyone expected Pengagon to be awesome. He was hyped up to me very early. Fenix though was just supposed to be a spot guy. He's clearly been more for LU, and has been a key part of many of the companies best matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) I think I'll get 'em with Grave Consequences and the Angelico dive, both of which are on youtube. We'll watch it after Elimination Chamber. El Dragon, I agree but IIRC wasn't Pentagon Jr. a fringe character? Then he had those sweet kung fu vignettes and then the arm breaking string. From where he started on the show to being a lurking menace that everybody fears is really awesome. I think Fenix has had some incredible moments and matches but if you isolate his strengths, a guy like Aero Star would do just as well if not better if given that opportunity. Edited May 31, 2015 by Oyaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I have yet to see Aerostar take an ass kicking like Fenix has, or make a comeback like Fenix has. Fenix has been just been taking stupid asskickings and his comebacks have been damn good without being unrealistic, which I fear Aerostars would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think Dragon Azteca is a local wrestler or just some dude. I'm not really sure. Definitely not an AAA guy. I would guess an actor but they dubbed his voice on an episode and it would seem strange to hire an actor to play a masked role if you are going to dub his voice. I am not a huge Fenix guy for many reasons but he's been great on this show. It fits what he's best at. Just batshit crazy spots & bumps. He's AMAZING at that stuff. My issues with him as relate to inside the ring are he's such a huge Puro mark he'll occasionally just do weird no-sells or fighting spirit spots that are completely dumb and nobody in (insert random city in Mexico)'s crowd understands what the fuck he is doing. It's like he wrestles for himself instead of the crowd. But as I said, he's been great in LU, possibly because he's been told exactly what to do unlike Mexico where he has creative freedom on most shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEmanWITHnoNAME Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Have been watching this regularly after starting with the episode where it is implied that Drago morphs into a dragon...episode 25 I think...and I have to say...I love this f'n show. Now I need to go back and catch episodes 1-24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 After this week I hope Mil starts using a stiff ass powerbomb as his new leveled up finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think I'll get 'em with Grave Consequences and the Angelico dive, both of which are on youtube. We'll watch it after Elimination Chamber. El Dragon, I agree but IIRC wasn't Pentagon Jr. a fringe character? Then he had those sweet kung fu vignettes and then the arm breaking string. From where he started on the show to being a lurking menace that everybody fears is really awesome. I think Fenix has had some incredible moments and matches but if you isolate his strengths, a guy like Aero Star would do just as well if not better if given that opportunity. The Aztec Warfare show seems like forever ago but it's something they could get into. Also, Mundo putting Alberto through the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Aerostar always has the potential cool comeback of jumping off of really high shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Damn, we took forever to get through EC and I only got to show off the two Angelico dives but that seemed to win them over. Next time will be Grave Consequences and then some of the other great shit like Aztec Warfare and the three-way ladder match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Had some friends over for EC, and they hung around afterwards while I showed them some LU, of the seven friends that came over, two of them had been following it, but others in the room were virgin eyes. Showed them the Aerostar-Jack Evans match (a few of them were WSX fans so a Jack Evans match was a good entry point for them), the trios ladder match which all of them loved even before the big Angelico spot, and then this week's full episode which I hadn't watched yet. All of them ended up pretty blown away by the fact that both the wrestling itself and the production had a different feel, and many of them wishing some of the WWE production looked like this, at least for the backstage/Dario's office spots. A couple WCW fans in the room lamented at how old and broken down both Vampiro and Konnan looked, but at least appreciated that they are booked on the sidelines and not as old-man ass-kickers despite them looking in mostly terrible shape, especially Konnan. Mil Muertes was definitely seen as an Undertaker analog character, and I am now unable to see Catrina/Maxine without the phrase "sexy Paul Bearer" running through my head thanks to one of my friends using that phrase to describe her. Overall, this definitely seems like a show that really could build a bigger following if enough people currently watching force their friends to "stay and watch THIS!" on a night of WWE viewing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 That's pretty neat. I've always been of the opinion that all the show needs is more exposure and it will really take off. Good to see case studies like this, granted on a smaller level. I can resign myself to understanding why something like PWG will always be a great product but is at its' ceiling in terms of how far it can grow and who it can appeal to. But with something like LU it seems blatantly obvious to me it can appeal to even casual wrestling fans if they just had the chance to see it without going to YouTube or tracking an illegal download down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Haha, at least one of us was successful. LU definitely needs the word of mouth hype and is absolutely deserving of it. ooooooOOOooh yeEEEESsss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I got 8 or 9 new people who got five other new people watching, and about a third of those guys weren't even wrestling fans at first. Grave Consequences works. Had two guys go from non wrestling fans to making signs for Pentagon Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Had some friends over for EC, and they hung around afterwards while I showed them some LU, of the seven friends that came over, two of them had been following it, but others in the room were virgin eyes. Showed them the Aerostar-Jack Evans match (a few of them were WSX fans so a Jack Evans match was a good entry point for them), the trios ladder match which all of them loved even before the big Angelico spot, and then this week's full episode which I hadn't watched yet. All of them ended up pretty blown away by the fact that both the wrestling itself and the production had a different feel, and many of them wishing some of the WWE production looked like this, at least for the backstage/Dario's office spots. WWE doesn't really have the luxury of editing their stuff to air a couple months later. I imagine a lot of how things are filmed in WWE has to do with some combo of "Looks best/Easiest to transport". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Plus you gotta figure if you're the biggest wrestling company in the world you're not gonna be rushing out there to change what you've been doing for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If you hear four guys chanting "break her arm" super fucking loud tonight you know who was responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Plus you gotta figure if you're the biggest wrestling company in the world you're not gonna be rushing out there to change what you've been doing for years That's what I keep saying! Now where did I put that AC/DC tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 So tonight we have- Jack Evans vs Argenis A Trios titles defense against a team with Big Ryck on it Sexy Star vs the great Pentagon Jr in a submission match All three matches really kicked ass live, looking forward to seeing them on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistah Na1m4rk Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Would it kill anyone to make Pentagon Jr look strong? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn411 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Pentagon squashing Sexy Star would kill her. Pentagon got the win, sexy star did not look weak and it was a good match. All that over analyzing stuff would hurt any storyline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 I gotta go with Naimark here. That main event was a letdown. I gave them the benefit of the doubt thinking Pentagon would kill her this time but that match went on forever and she was awful while everything he did should have legit killed her. Then he had to be helped by Super Fly which was silly & now he's stuck with Vamp. This show needs a 2nd season if only to get Pentagon some real opponents. Opener was okay (not great), Black Lotus stuff I loved, the rest was forgettable. Not a blowaway show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 On a sidenote - I know you all think I'm crazy for mentioning Mortal Kombat over and over but never more than tonight's episode was it more clear they are taking stories from there and just doing minor twists. It's amazing. I'm pretty sure I know exactly where the Dario/Lotus/Azteca story is going and which current charachters are going to play big roles in the reveal. It's going to rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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