The Natural Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 15 hours ago, Eivion said: So finally started reading Batman pre-New 52 again. Just finished Time and the Batman which I dug overall. I'm on the Return of Bruce Wayne right now and have Batman & Robin must Die and the Road Home to read afterward. I was wondering when I'm done if I should just stick to picking up Incorporated, Black Mirror, & Gates of Gotham or if any of the other books were worthwhile? Time and the Batman is probably the most underrated Batman book from Grant Morrison's run. If you want to carry on reading Morrison's Batman reign, it's: Batman and Robin: Batman and Robin Must Die Batman, Incorporated Batman, Incorporated (The New 52): Demon Star and Gotham's Most Wanted. Check this thread out, man: You have to read Scott Snyder's Batman: The Black Mirror, that's a must. I recommend Gates of Gotham as well. Trying to think of other pre New 52 books. 15 hours ago, The Unholy Dragon said: That's the best stuff for sure. That stretch is so weird too because of the way Time and the Batman, Must Die, and Return of Bruce Wayne overlapped in realtime so you'd get info layered. I'd love an absolute edition or big HC collecting it in the original reading order but that's way too eclectic for DC I think. This. There's also Batman R.I.P.'s last two stories taking place just after that story going into Batman's Final Crisis predicament. Another thing is the naming of Batman, Incorporated. DC have the New 52 versions as Batman, Incorporated: Demon Star (Vol. 1) and Batman, Incorporated: Gotham's Most Wanted (Vol. 2). I probably would have gone Batman, Incorporated (Vol. 1) for the original series and for the New 52 era, say that with New 52 Part One for Demon Star and Part Two for Gotham's Most Wanted. 3 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: I'm surprised they haven't done it in omnibus form. It's annoying how the run was collected. B&R and Inc both got absolutes. RIP got a deluxe edition, as did the first Vol of Inc. Years later they went back and gave Son and Glove a combined deluxe edition. Return, Time, B&R, and the new 52 Inc got regular sized hardcovers. B&R is getting a new hardcover collection of the entire run (I'm guessing much like The Dark Knight Saga deluxe, it's the absolute edition shrunk down to deluxe size) So my collection has Batman And Son (New Edition that includes both Son and The Black For Glove) in paperback, The Resurrection of Ra's AL Ghul in hardcover, RIP in deluxe hardcover, Final Crisis in both the original hardcover and the absolute, Time and the Batman in paperback, B&R in Absolute, Batman Inc in deluxe edition, Batman Inc Demon Star and Gotham's Most Wanted in hardcover, and then all of Inc in Absolute. It doesn't fit together at all. They really should just do an omnibus series. Two or three volumes, done and done. With how the run is collected, you both helped me with the reading order. Thanks. I own Batman and Son collecting that with Batman: The Black Glove (hardback), Batman R.I.P. (paperback), Batman and Robin: Batman Reborn (paperback), Batman and Robin: Batman vs. Robin (hardback), Time and the Batman (paperback), The Return of Bruce Wayne (hardback), Batman and Robin: Batman and Robin Must Die (hardback), Batman, Incorporated (paperback), Batman, Incorporated: Demon Star (paperback) and Gotham's Most Wanted (paperback). I'd like to get Final Crisis at some point. This is the first I've heard about a Batman and Robin complete collection, just the #1-16 Grant Morrison ones, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Top some extent that would work, but you still wouldn't have Time/B&R Must Die/Return all playing out together like it did way back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's solicited for December. #1-16 and I think Batman: The Return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Morrison/Millar Flash TPB is out this week. I remember absolutely adoring "Emergency Stop" and the Krakkl story when they came out, and not much caring for Black Flash or the single-issue stories. They should really have thrown in the other two parts of the Kyle/Connor/Wally vacation three-parter, because the finale makes almost no sense by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin877 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Is the DC App for Android, similar to Marvel Unlimited? Where I can read the comics library from my tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Not really. It's more of a news and blog type thing. Maybe you can buy digital comics, but nothing like unlimited sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Read Return of Bruce Wayne & Batman & Robin Must Die. Will have to reread the whole thing closer together at some point, but I thought it was a great conclusion to the whole Hurt/Black Glove saga. Morrison's Joker was such a pleasure to read. Going through Road Home right now. After that I will hopefully pick up Incorporated, Black Mirror, & Gates of Gotham next month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 So, a couple weeks ago, we got Wonder Woman Earth One, an out of continuity original graphic novel retelling of her origin. In July we get Wonder Woman: True Amazon, an out of continuity original graphic novel retelling of her origin (by Jill Thompson!) Also in July, in the alternating issues of the main Wonder Woman series, Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott are doing Wonder Woman Year One, a new version of her origin. And in August we get a new packaging release of the first 14 issues of George Perez's WW run, including, you guessed it, his retelling of her origin. I get it's the 75th anniversary. I get there's a new movie next year and they want a good collection of paperbacks available for the bookstore crowd. I liked Earth One and love the creative team. I love Jill Thompson, Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott. But Jesus how many versions of her origin do they need out at once? Especially since the movie will no doubt have its own take on the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Shelly Bond is out as VP & Executive Editor of Vertigo. Apparently they are dumping the entire position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 So... end of Vertigo? I'm kinda surprised Vertigo hasn't been shuttered already. Doesn't feel like many people pay attention to the line anymore (aside from Fables). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Bond's firing also lead to a storm of Twitter grumbling that lead to Nick Hanover tossing out the open secret that DC had a known harasser on its editorial board, revealing it to be Superman editor Eddie Berganza. It's about to hit the fan, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WholeFnMachine Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 46 minutes ago, Vader does my taxes! said: So... end of Vertigo? I'm kinda surprised Vertigo hasn't been shuttered already. Doesn't feel like many people pay attention to the line anymore (aside from Fables). American Vampire is part of Vertigo and that book is killer. Another limited series that did well as part of Vertigo was the Wake penned by Scott Snyder with art by Sean Gordon Murphy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Super Ape said: Bond's firing also lead to a storm of Twitter grumbling that lead to Nick Hanover tossing out the open secret that DC had a known harasser on its editorial board, revealing it to be Superman editor Eddie Berganza. It's about to hit the fan, kids. I'm assuming "harasser" = sexual harassment. 'Cause if he's just a jerk to the writers, he has a lot of company in that line and it's not very newsworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yeah, alleged groping of a female employee, allegedly forced his tongue in the mouth of the girlfriend of a DC artist. Janelle Asselin has come forward to say she was one of the women who formally complained about him to HR, and the reason she left DC was him being promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 So when I stopped by my LCS today, a customer was telling the staff about the couple of times he has met George Perez... ... At Fetishcon. I had heard the rumors. Didn't know George was apparently a regular at Fetishcon conventions. Now know more than I wanted to about George. Will probably never look at my Perez Wonder Woman omnibus the same way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I thought that type of stuff was well known. Not sure why you should look at your WW collection any differently. I believe bondage elements have been a part of WW since Marston made it her if I recall correctly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Not terriblysurprising, since Perez always has/had personal booth babes at his table and his creator owned work was often fetishy for lack of a better world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Dragon Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 22 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: So, a couple weeks ago, we got Wonder Woman Earth One, an out of continuity original graphic novel retelling of her origin. In July we get Wonder Woman: True Amazon, an out of continuity original graphic novel retelling of her origin (by Jill Thompson!) Also in July, in the alternating issues of the main Wonder Woman series, Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott are doing Wonder Woman Year One, a new version of her origin. And in August we get a new packaging release of the first 14 issues of George Perez's WW run, including, you guessed it, his retelling of her origin. I get it's the 75th anniversary. I get there's a new movie next year and they want a good collection of paperbacks available for the bookstore crowd. I liked Earth One and love the creative team. I love Jill Thompson, Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott. But Jesus how many versions of her origin do they need out at once? Especially since the movie will no doubt have its own take on the story. Don't forget Renae De Liz is currently doing a (great) take with Legend of Wonder Woman. 3 hours ago, Vader does my taxes! said: So when I stopped by my LCS today, a customer was telling the staff about the couple of times he has met George Perez... ... At Fetishcon. I had heard the rumors. Didn't know George was apparently a regular at Fetishcon conventions. Now know more than I wanted to about George. Will probably never look at my Perez Wonder Woman omnibus the same way again. I mean, look at his design work. Most of the NTT designs he did are pretty fetishy in one way or another. Not a huge shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Didn't he write scenarios for a company doing superheroine-themed fetish wrestling vids for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 [/IMG] Finaly trying to organize some of my collection. I'm deeply conflicted on keeping All-Star Batman and Robin with All-Star Superman or putting it with the rest of the Batman stuff. No, that is not an excessive number of copies of Dark Knight Returns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Its okay, i think i have Sandman in 4 different versions (issues, original trades, late 90s trade dress, Absolutes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I got rid of my paperbacks of everything Sandman except Death: The High Cost of Living when I got the absolutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Unholy Dragon Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I feel like a Shelf Porn thread could be fun. Also I am super jealous of that JLA/Avngers HC. That came out when I was 16 and out of superhero comics. I missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I got it half off when my then current lcs went out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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