Brian Fowler Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Lets talk more about musical theatre. 1
TimWresPowr Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 I was kinda surprised Bryan knew the answer to the Sliced Bread #1 honestly. I figured he'd wikipedia it on the air.
Ace Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Lets talk more about musical theatre. Has any other show aged as badly as Rent has?
scraylo187 Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Can we shoehorn dislike of .net's Chris Shore into this forum? Wrestling seems to make him so miserable, I'm not sure why he's watching it anymore.
ExcellenceofAirPollution Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 your sig is the greatest thing since sliced bread #2
jstout Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Lets talk more about musical theatre. Only if it's being conducted while we eat breakfast at a Denny's.
piranesi Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 your sig is the greatest thing since sliced bread #2 I think it's crud.
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Lets talk more about musical theatre. Has any other show aged as badly as Rent has? It's definitely dated, and just screams early 90's, but I still dig a lot of the songs. (Although for Roger spending the entire year/show trying to write one song, the one he comes up with isn't that great.) Always the problem with a big "cultural zeitgeist" thing... When the culture moves on (in this case, mostly from aids being THE disease) the thing gets left behind. Man, I wish Larson had lived to write a second show.
piranesi Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I don't know. Tuberculosis stopped being the THE disease a long time ago, but LA TRAVIATA is still pretty awesome.
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 But was that a big zeitgeist moment? Did TB become a big deal to a large number of people right at the same time La Traviata opened? (Note: I'm asking, I have no fucking clue.)
piranesi Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 It was a really common plot device back then, but by "back then" I mean for like 80 years. According to WIKI-Poo, the group of symptoms commonly called "consumption" back then were identified as "Tuberculosis" around 1840. Traviata is from 1853, but it's one of hundreds of plays, books, and operas where lead characters have the disease. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis_in_popular_culture Also according to Wiki-Wiki, around that time, it was responsible for as many as 20-25% of the deaths in Europe. However, it remained that way for the entire century so it would be hard to argue that it was a unique zeitgeist moment, unless you want to argue that the entire 1800s was a "moment." Things moved slower then. But we're a solid 100 years past when the disease was a major part of life, and that opera still kicks ass.
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Fair enough. Rent is actually based (somewhat loosely) on La bohème*. As long as we are talking operas with TB in them. But enough opera, more musical theatre, dammit. *For reasons I am unaware of, the second word is not capitalized.
piranesi Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 "The Meltzer thread is way too much opera and not enough musical theater" is the new "The Meltzer show is way too much UFC and not enough NJPW." 2
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Rent stinks. Let's all praise Ragtime while having some Eggs Over My-hammie.
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 All I'm saying is that Sam Mendes's rework of Cabaret is a ***** musical. Saw it with NPH as the MC and Deborah Gibson as Sally. Uh-Mazing.
Ace Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I saw pictures of Harris' emcee. Fightningly emaciated. That being said, I do love just how unabashedly pervy Joel Grey is in the role. From what I've seen of Stamos and others, they seem to try to ape Cumming's take on it though.I'm guessing that's a directorial decision.
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Joel Grey is fantastic in the film, but man did that movie take some weird turns away from the stage play. Still a really fantastic movie.
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 You Glee-boys are making thee Ghost of Dick the Bruiser gnash his teeth with rage. aghast & ashamed, RAF 4
Ace Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Glee can fuck right off. You wanna equate proper musical theatre with glee, we'll equate the wrestling business with yardtarding. 2
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Hey, I like Dick the Bruiser and The Pirates of Penzance. And I will not apologize for either.
Matt D Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I can't stand people who can't stand G&S. I saw Pirates at the Strand Theater in London with Anthony Head as the Pirate King. Take that, Fowler. 1
odessasteps Posted September 25, 2013 Author Posted September 25, 2013 Id post some g&s but that is currently being used to aggravate piranesi in the baseball thread. 1
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I can't stand people who can't stand G&S. I saw Pirates at the Strand Theater in London with Anthony Head as the Pirate King. Take that, Fowler. Well, damn. Lucky bastard.
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