Kevin Wilson Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 A little early but I figure any talk about the new promotion leading up to and after the event can just go in this thread. Wrestle-1 "Raising An Army" Debut EventTokyo Dome City HallAttendance: 2,500 (Super No Vacancy Full House) 1. Daiki Inaba Debut Match: Hiroshi Yamato and Daiki Inaba defeated NOSAWA Rongai and MAZADA (6:38) with a Northern Light Suplex from Yamato to NOSAWA. 2. Kohei Sato and Ryouji Sai defeated Ryota Hama and Yasufumi Nakanoue (10:18) with a Piledriver from Sato to Nakanoue. 3. Women's Pro Wrestling Match: Yoshiko defeated Mayu Iwatani (6:26) with a Diving Senton. 4. Koji Kanemoto and Minoru Tanaka defeated Masaaki Mochizuki and Fujita "Jr." Hayato (13:08) with a Ankle Hold from Kanemoto to Hayato. 5. Daisuke Sekimoto and Yuji Okabayashi defeated Kaz Hayashi and Shuji Kondo (15:20) with a Deadlift German Suplex Hold from Sekimoto to Kondo. 6. Kazushi Sakuraba and Katsuyori Shibata defeated Masakatsu Funaki and Masayuki Kono (16:30) with a Chickenwing Facelock from Sakuraba to Kono. 7. KAI Return Match: KAI defeated Seiya Sanada (16:41) with the Splash Plancha. 8. Keiji Mutoh and Bob Sapp defeated René Duprée and Zodiac (10:20) with a Moonsault Press from Mutoh to Duprée. from purolove.com What a shock, a Bob Sapp sighting in Wrestle-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiColin Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I kind of hope match five turns out to be something like Minoru/Kanemoto vs Mochizuki/Some one; it'd be fun to watch them tee off on each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So was Daiki Inaba a AJ Dojo kid that jumped? I like that the card is basically Everyone who jumped vs. umm....somebody else. So it'll be interesting to see which freelance guys they bring in actually win a match. I'm also intrigued that Mutoh is the only guy from the split in the main event, so that means he's going to need three big names in the main. I'm assuming it'll be someone from New Japan(didn't they say they'd work with him?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 As a point of full disclosure, as everyone that knows me knows, I am a big fan of Keiji Mutoh. That being said, I am not thrilled of the idea that All Japan was really hitting its stride and it suddenly gets cut in half. Mutoh clearly got the better half (in my opinion), but starting a new promotion is hard and I fear it will go the way of BML in that it will start hot, then slowly events will take place less often until they all just become freelancers. But they appear to have sponsors and what not so hopefully it goes well. Honestly, no, Mutoh didn't get the better half. What he did do though was basically manage to get Kondo to follow, take a Kono who was becoming a solid hand, and steal almost all of the damn young wrestlers (Inaba, Sanada, Nakanoue, KAI, Yamato, at least two other rookies). All that said I wouldn't say he got the better half considering Burning, Suwama, Doering, a KENSO that gives a damn, & Soya all stayed. These were the guys pretty much putting on the best matches the first half of the year before the split. So was Daiki Inaba a AJ Dojo kid that jumped? One of them. There was also a former indy wrestler who joined and was going through the training system like Raijin did. So a theory STRIGGA from purolove and myself have is that Mutoh may just be trying to wait out Shiraishi who will hopefully either get bored in a maybe year or see AJP's business failing and be forced to give up the promotion. Otherwise its odd that they have no plans fro titles in WRESTLE-1, and there is really no way Mutoh could keep such a place running long term. Its a light stretch and may just be wishful thinking, but I just find it odd. Even timing of Motoko Baba's asking for the Triple Crown belts back seemed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 As a point of full disclosure, as everyone that knows me knows, I am a big fan of Keiji Mutoh. That being said, I am not thrilled of the idea that All Japan was really hitting its stride and it suddenly gets cut in half. Mutoh clearly got the better half (in my opinion), but starting a new promotion is hard and I fear it will go the way of BML in that it will start hot, then slowly events will take place less often until they all just become freelancers. But they appear to have sponsors and what not so hopefully it goes well. Honestly, no, Mutoh didn't get the better half. What he did do though was basically manage to get Kondo to follow, take a Kono who was becoming a solid hand, and steal almost all of the damn young wrestlers (Inaba, Sanada, Nakanoue, KAI, Yamato, at least two other rookies). All that said I wouldn't say he got the better half considering Burning, Suwama, Doering, a KENSO that gives a damn, & Soya all stayed. These were the guys pretty much putting on the best matches the first half of the year before the split. In my defense, I did say in my opinion But I am generally all about the youth. I've never liked KENSO, Doering will leave in a second if WWE calls again, and personally prefer Yamato/KAI/Sanada over Soya (which I realize may be a minority opinion). Burning I know signed a contract but the only one of the bunch I really still like is Go. Suwama of course is the real deal, if he had left then All Japan may as well not be All Japan. Either way it is bad for both of them in terms of putting on complete entertaining cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I can see preferring Yamato over Soya, but KAI and Sanada just make no sense to me, especially considering the former is quite terrible at the moment and has actually devolved as a wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think you meant "the latter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 As a point of full disclosure, as everyone that knows me knows, I am a big fan of Keiji Mutoh. That being said, I am not thrilled of the idea that All Japan was really hitting its stride and it suddenly gets cut in half. Mutoh clearly got the better half (in my opinion), but starting a new promotion is hard and I fear it will go the way of BML in that it will start hot, then slowly events will take place less often until they all just become freelancers. But they appear to have sponsors and what not so hopefully it goes well. Honestly, no, Mutoh didn't get the better half. What he did do though was basically manage to get Kondo to follow, take a Kono who was becoming a solid hand, and steal almost all of the damn young wrestlers (Inaba, Sanada, Nakanoue, KAI, Yamato, at least two other rookies). All that said I wouldn't say he got the better half considering Burning, Suwama, Doering, a KENSO that gives a damn, & Soya all stayed. These were the guys pretty much putting on the best matches the first half of the year before the split. So was Daiki Inaba a AJ Dojo kid that jumped? One of them. There was also a former indy wrestler who joined and was going through the training system like Raijin did. So a theory STRIGGA from purolove and myself have is that Mutoh may just be trying to wait out Shiraishi who will hopefully either get bored in a maybe year or see AJP's business failing and be forced to give up the promotion. Otherwise its odd that they have no plans fro titles in WRESTLE-1, and there is really no way Mutoh could keep such a place running long term. Its a light stretch and may just be wishful thinking, but I just find it odd. Even timing of Motoko Baba's asking for the Triple Crown belts back seemed off. That sounds like a huge waste of time, money and resources. If Shiraishi leaves in a year, that's still a year Mutoh and company have spent building the WRESTLE-1 brand. WRESTLE-1 would have to be in pretty bad shape to just drop it and if Shiraishi leaves All Japan, they probably won't be in good shape either. And really, why would Mutoh want to go back? Unless he wants to keep the name alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisco Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Anything come of the proposed Wrestle-1/TNA talent exchange? Samoa Joe, Austin Ares, Bad Influence and AJ Styles would be fun in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 That sounds like a huge waste of time, money and resources. If Shiraishi leaves in a year, that's still a year Mutoh and company have spent building the WRESTLE-1 brand. WRESTLE-1 would have to be in pretty bad shape to just drop it and if Shiraishi leaves All Japan, they probably won't be in good shape either. And really, why would Mutoh want to go back? Unless he wants to keep the name alive. Chances of WRESTLE-1 doing well after their first few shows are low and its more about how long one might be able to wait the other out. Like I said its a stretch anyways. The AJP brand would be worth more and easier to build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellsworth Toohey Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So does Muto have corporate backers or are we going to be reading about him filing for personal bankruptcy in a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So does Muto have corporate backers or are we going to be reading about him filing for personal bankruptcy in a year? I seem to recall Muto has a knack for finding money marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Apparently they have some type of sponsorship deal with Ezaki Glico, however big or important they are I have no idea. I am surprised the event will be airing live on TV. Of course I realize that the percentage of homes that get Gaora TV is low, but still for a new promotion to be on TV from the start, especially live... either he or the sponsor have stroke with someone. Or they are paying Gaora TV a lot of money. Not sure how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellsworth Toohey Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As a point of full disclosure, as everyone that knows me knows, I am a big fan of Keiji Mutoh. That being said, I am not thrilled of the idea that All Japan was really hitting its stride and it suddenly gets cut in half. Mutoh clearly got the better half (in my opinion), but starting a new promotion is hard and I fear it will go the way of BML Eh, this is more along the lines of Riki Choshu's "World Japan" promotion. Muto will be back under contract to New Japan as a "legend" by 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So many terrible ideas in AJP were attributed (rightly or wrongly) to Muto. Goldberg annihilating Kea and Kojima in 3 minutes each. Kronik as tag champs. The first incarnation of WRESTLE-1. I wonder if he has gotten wiser, or if this card is gonna be some trippy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So many terrible ideas in AJP were attributed (rightly or wrongly) to Muto. Goldberg annihilating Kea and Kojima in 3 minutes each. Kronik as tag champs. The first incarnation of WRESTLE-1. I wonder if he has gotten wiser, or if this card is gonna be some trippy shit. Those were almost 10 years ago though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So you're voting for wiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 What were the makeup of the original WRESTLE-1 cards? I've never seen any matchlistings or anything from them... imagining some WAR-type stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 November 17, 2002 in Yokohama, Japan Yokohama Arena drawing 12,807 Shown live on Japanese PPV Abdullah the Butcher pinned Masaaki Satake (5:10). Kendo Kashin & Apeman Nigo beat La Parka & Super Parka (13:37) when Kashin forced La Parka to submit. Sam Greco & Dos Caras, Jr. beat Taiyo Kea & Kaz Hayashi (12:20) when Caras pinned Hayashi. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroshi Hase beat Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman (16:49) when Kojima pinned Randleman. Shinya Hashimoto beat Josh Dempsey (8:01) via submission. Bill Goldberg pinned Rick Steiner (6:03). 7. Bob Sapp pinned The Great Muta (6:33). January 19, 2003 in Tokyo, Japan Tokyo Dome drawing 20,000 Shown live on Japanese PPV Abdullah The Butcher pinned Masaaki Sataake (7:35). Anthony Mori, Henry Sugawara, & Taiji Ishimori beat Milano Collection AT, Yossino, & Condotti Shuji (13:18) when Ishimori pinned Shuji. Kendo Kashin beat Sabu (12:28) via submission. Ultimo Dragon & Kaz Hayashi beat Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Buccanero (17:40) when Dragon forced Buccanero to submit. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroshi Hase beat Terry Funk & Heath Herring (10:58) when Hase pinned Herring. Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman beat Jan Nortje & Giant Singh (11:48) when Coleman pinned Singh. Shinya Hashimoto beat Joe Son (5:34) via submission. Keiji Mutoh & Bill Goldberg beat Bryan Clark & Bryan Adams (17:57) when Goldberg pinned Clark. Ernesto Hoost pinned Bob Sapp (5:15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 August 4, 2005 in Tokyo, Japan Sumo Hall drawing 8,000 Mil Mascaras & Terry Funk beat Tomoaki Honma & Katsuhiko Nakajima (10:19) when Mascaras pinned Nakajima. Kaz Hayashi pinned AJ Styles (14:38). Kohei Suwama pinned The Predator (7:36). Genichiro Tenryu beat Kazunari Murakami (7:29) via DQ. Bob Sapp pinned Giant Bernard (5:30). Kensuke Sasaki pinned Riki Choshu (6:10). Jun Akiyama pinned Katsuyori Shibata (13:46). The Great Muta pinned Akebono (10:08). October 2, 2005 in Tokyo, Japan Yoyogi National Stadium Gym drawing 8,012 Shown live on Japanese PPV Abdullah the Butcher & Giant Kimala beat Dory Funk, Jr. & Katsuhiko Nakajima (10:16) when Abdullah pinned Nakajima. Giant Bernard & The Predator beat Sam Greco & Jan Nortje (12:20) when Bernard pinned Nortje. Team 3-D beat Johnny Stamboli & Chuck Palumbo (14:19) Buh Buh Ray pinned Palumbo. Minoru Suzuki TKO Kohei Suwama (17:00). Jamal pinned Don Frye (8:16). Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa beat Akebono & Scorpio (14:51) when Misawa pinned Akebono. The Great Muta pinned Kensuke Sasaki (13:14). Bob Sapp pinned Jun Akiyama (7:21). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Well, I've seen Akiyama vs. Shibata before. They are some gloriously WAR-esque cards with a sad touch of the IGF about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRV Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I still have wet dreams about Akiyama/Shibata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The Josh Dempsey listed on the card is the JD Dempsey of many a Samoa Joe story, including one on the Austin podcast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgi86 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 The show will be airing as an iPPV at http://www.ustream.tv/w-1. The price is $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 No full card yet, eh? Maybe it'll just be a surprise on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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